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Post by defendingmygoal on Jun 17, 2021 13:26:37 GMT -5
Always wondered this and im sure others have too. Honestly, do colleges consider players for their D1 or prestigious program if they cant even make the top team at thier respective club? Please share any stories or opinions.
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Post by bogan on Jun 17, 2021 13:28:39 GMT -5
Always wondered this and im sure others have too. Honestly, do colleges consider players for their D1 or prestigious program if they cant even make the top team at thier respective club? Please share any stories or opinions. IMHO-rarely. (Boys) exceptions being an exceptional player from a small club…but I still think that’s mostly in the past now. |
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Post by dadofthree on Jun 17, 2021 13:35:51 GMT -5
On the girls side it can happen. Know several girls who it has or is happening for. Depends on club, coach and which school. Some schools will only recruit top teams/leagues others will look for a diamond in the rough.
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Post by defendingmygoal on Jun 17, 2021 13:37:34 GMT -5
Always wondered this and im sure others have too. Honestly, do colleges consider players for their D1 or prestigious program if they cant even make the top team at thier respective club? Please share any stories or opinions. IMHO-rarely. (Boys) exceptions being an exceptional player from a small club…but I still think that’s mostly in the past now. Yea I see, before MLS academies there would be a standout player at each small club that would take on whole teams. Now those players are picked up by AU in u13. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jun 17, 2021 13:41:14 GMT -5
I know many SCCL and NPL kids from ECNL clubs advancing to play college on the boys side. But -- I wouldn't consider them top 20 schools for soccer. I'm sure someone has an example, but my guess it would be extremely rare.
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 17, 2021 14:26:19 GMT -5
The question really has 2 different answers depending on how it is read. There are 333 D1 women’s soccer programs. There are 205 men’s division 1 soccer programs. If the question is about playing D1, there are players not on the top club teams playing D1.
If the question is about playing at a prestigious D1 school (which I assume you mean a traditional soccer powerhouse), it would be much more difficult, if not impossible, to make a prestigious D1 team.
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Post by bogan on Jun 17, 2021 14:36:07 GMT -5
The question really has 2 different answers depending on how it is read. There are 333 D1 women’s soccer programs. There are 205 men’s division 1 soccer programs. If the question is about playing D1, there are players not on the top club teams playing D1. If the question is about playing at a prestigious D1 school (which I assume you mean a traditional soccer powerhouse), it would be much more difficult, if not impossible, to make a prestigious D1 team. Yeah-big difference between playing at Georgetown, Clemson vs UAB or GA Southern. (Nothing wrong with playing at the lower D1s btw). |
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 17, 2021 14:44:32 GMT -5
The question really has 2 different answers depending on how it is read. There are 333 D1 women’s soccer programs. There are 205 men’s division 1 soccer programs. If the question is about playing D1, there are players not on the top club teams playing D1. If the question is about playing at a prestigious D1 school (which I assume you mean a traditional soccer powerhouse), it would be much more difficult, if not impossible, to make a prestigious D1 team. Yeah-big difference between playing at Georgetown, Clemson vs UAB or GA Southern. (Nothing wrong with playing at the lower D1s btw). Right, it is the equivalent of playing football at UGA, Alabama or Clemson v. Kent State, Buffalo or Georgia Tech. |
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Post by diamondmid on Jun 17, 2021 15:03:22 GMT -5
The question really has 2 different answers depending on how it is read. There are 333 D1 women’s soccer programs. There are 205 men’s division 1 soccer programs. If the question is about playing D1, there are players not on the top club teams playing D1. If the question is about playing at a prestigious D1 school (which I assume you mean a traditional soccer powerhouse), it would be much more difficult, if not impossible, to make a prestigious D1 team. Additionally- there are a lot of international players taking spots on these teams- big and small D1s. |
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Post by bogan on Jun 17, 2021 15:10:02 GMT -5
The question really has 2 different answers depending on how it is read. There are 333 D1 women’s soccer programs. There are 205 men’s division 1 soccer programs. If the question is about playing D1, there are players not on the top club teams playing D1. If the question is about playing at a prestigious D1 school (which I assume you mean a traditional soccer powerhouse), it would be much more difficult, if not impossible, to make a prestigious D1 team. Additionally- there are a lot of international players taking spots on these teams- big and small D1s. True-D2s as well. |
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Post by atv on Jun 17, 2021 16:32:01 GMT -5
I would guess international players make up at least 30-percent of all D1 players on the men’s side. The percentage seems even higher at D1 private schools and D2 schools. I would guess at least 40% or higher here. It depends on the school, some are all international players and others have more US players. The military academies seem to be mostly US kids. I wish there was somewhere to find this stat. I bet it’s not too far off.
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Post by Keeper on Jun 17, 2021 16:35:49 GMT -5
Yeah-big difference between playing at Georgetown, Clemson vs UAB or GA Southern. (Nothing wrong with playing at the lower D1s btw). Right, it is the equivalent of playing football at UGA, Alabama or Clemson v. Kent State, Buffalo or Georgia Tech. Bahahaha you actually think uga is on the same level of Bama and Clemson?  😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 |
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Post by thip on Jun 17, 2021 18:21:01 GMT -5
100% yes and don’t let anyone fool you otherwise. Most college coaches DI to NAIA can careless what league you play in. Have you son/daughter attend college ID camps and attend college camps he or she is interested in. If their good enough they can go DI. When you go to college camps they compare you to others trying to get a scholarship and in many cases their current players.
Say your child plays for a high level ECNL team, they see you at a showcase event. Their first response to you is this is our date of our is camp.
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Post by soccerlegacy on Jun 17, 2021 20:49:24 GMT -5
I heard colleges give alot of spots to international players (at least on the girls side) because it's financially beneficial to them. Is that correct? I know the rest of the women's soccer world has closed the talent gap compared to us, but I'm sincerely curious as to why I notice so many on rosters when the USA has such depth of talent everywhere.
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Post by allthingsoccer on Jun 17, 2021 21:34:18 GMT -5
On the boys side its a mix.
This is one of the advantages of being at AU or an MLS Academy. Colleges show up and watch training or AU films them and you can send them to a school you are already speaking with. Saves from going to the camps but camps are a great way to be seen. If you ball out, good chance conversations will start.
So many different pathways.
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Post by collegesoccer on Jun 17, 2021 21:51:40 GMT -5
Yeah-big difference between playing at Georgetown, Clemson vs UAB or GA Southern. (Nothing wrong with playing at the lower D1s btw). Right, it is the equivalent of playing football at UGA, Alabama or Clemson v. Kent State, Buffalo or Georgia Tech. You said Buffalo or Georgia Tech.  |
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Post by soccerloafer on Jun 17, 2021 22:40:08 GMT -5
My kids were not on top teams but they went D1. Well, not for soccer. But they'll make a heck of a lot more money than most women pro players. And the Zell Miller Hope scholarship is a nice bonus.
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Post by justwatching on Jun 18, 2021 7:42:51 GMT -5
On the boys side its a mix. This is one of the advantages of being at AU or an MLS Academy. Colleges show up and watch training or AU films them and you can send them to a school you are already speaking with. Saves from going to the camps but camps are a great way to be seen. If you ball out, good chance conversations will start. So many different pathways. It has been really nice to start seeing major D1 colleges recruiting from club practices again over the last couple of weeks. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jun 18, 2021 19:36:21 GMT -5
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 19, 2021 11:34:28 GMT -5
Kid played at big club ECNL. Turned down offers from all levels including D1. Decided that staying home at top university was more important. Like another poster said will make more money in their degree field first year out of college and the Zell helps immensely. Good luck to those playing college soccer but remember all but a very very very few are at college for a degree. I know several who realized this too late and spent several years at a university for soccer not academics.
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Post by soccernotfootball on Jun 19, 2021 12:44:41 GMT -5
Most realize college/education comes first. I don't think the poster was asking if their player can go pro, just if they can play D1 w/o being on a "top" team.
If my player can find a school he likes that will provide a great education and experience AND he gets to play soccer - hell yeah! Even if there's no money offered, just to get that experience would no doubt be incredible.
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Post by soccerspin on Jun 19, 2021 16:20:04 GMT -5
I heard colleges give alot of spots to international players (at least on the girls side) because it's financially beneficial to them. Is that correct? I know the rest of the women's soccer world has closed the talent gap compared to us, but I'm sincerely curious as to why I notice so many on rosters when the USA has such depth of talent everywhere. Yes I have heard the same. They are more willing, and perhaps able, to pay full price. |
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Post by bogan on Jun 19, 2021 16:59:56 GMT -5
I heard colleges give alot of spots to international players (at least on the girls side) because it's financially beneficial to them. Is that correct? I know the rest of the women's soccer world has closed the talent gap compared to us, but I'm sincerely curious as to why I notice so many on rosters when the USA has such depth of talent everywhere. Yes I have heard the same. They are more willing, and perhaps able, to pay full price. I watched a D2 men’s game recently …probably 1/2 the rosters were foreign born players. I’m guessing they pay full price or it helps the universities say “we have students from 37 countries…”. They were talented players… but no more so than the home growns. |
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 19, 2021 17:44:52 GMT -5
The players I referred to went to the colleges because of the soccer offering not checking thoroughly on the academic programming. They soon found they could not get the education field they wanted and transfered. Not every college is a fit both athletically and academically. Our kid figured that out and chose academics over athletics. It was a very mature decision for kid of their age. We fully supported that decision. I agsin congratulate kids who play soccer but caution them to look big picture.
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Post by mistergrinch on Jun 21, 2021 22:17:00 GMT -5
I always wondered this, but it seems that at the really big clubs it can happen. I know on the girls side, Tophat puts plenty of girls into D1 programs off their second teams (even before the second team was GA). Places like Solar, PDA, Legends do it all the time.
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