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Post by atv on Jun 23, 2021 6:39:10 GMT -5
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Post by atv on Jun 23, 2021 7:58:58 GMT -5
(from article)
“Because of Title IX, women’s athletics programs were required to have equal resources for facilities, training, recruitment, and scholarships. As a result, women’s participation in sports exploded. Since 1972, the number of high school female athletes has grown from 295,000 to 2.6 million, and the number of female college athletes has quintupled. Title IX is also credited to have decreased dropout rates and increased the number of women who pursued higher education.
Reinterpreting Title IX’s prohibition of discrimination on the basis of sex to include gender identity will result in the loss of the hard-won equality, safety, and opportunity for girls and women in school athletics. A recent British Journal of Medicine study shows that trans-identifying biological males retain competitive advantage over females even after two years of taking estrogen.”
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Post by ball2futbol on Jun 23, 2021 8:47:49 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Jun 23, 2021 8:55:41 GMT -5
This one should read “first male to compete”-he competed in weightlifting before as a man-this is grossly unfair to the female athletes if s/he is allowed to compete.
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Post by snow on Jun 23, 2021 9:38:17 GMT -5
I do not understand why we are allowing men to do this to women. I am sharing a video. Yes, I know this is just a tiktok... but this young woman’s voice on what it’s like to be a girl being stabbed in the back by this very male centered misogyny is heartbreaking. This is already happening in track/cross country , weightlifting, cycling, basketball, handball, MMA fighting, and numerous other sports. Every single situation is the same... the male dominates and breaks all longstanding female records across high school, college, and professional sports. Wait until this is really widespread and female sports just become male sports... as females disappear into the background. There is a massive difference between males living LIKE a woman and males claiming they ARE a women... and then demanding access to all female only spaces, all female sports, and all female sex based legally protected rights under the law. If words like “WOMAN” and “BIOLOGICAL SEX” can not be specifically defined in law... they are impossible to legally defend/protect in court. This is catastrophic for Biological Females and LGB people (aka Same Sex attracted). LANGUAGE MATTERS. There are 2 sides to this... and This is the female athlete side. This is HER truth. vm.tiktok.com/ZMdyNkNmq/
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Post by snow on Jun 23, 2021 10:42:20 GMT -5
I do not understand why we are allowing men to do this to women. I am sharing a video. Yes, I know this is just a tiktok... but this young woman’s voice on what it’s like to be a girl being stabbed in the back by this very male centered misogyny is heartbreaking. This is already happening in track/cross country , weightlifting, cycling, basketball, handball and numerous other sports. Every single situation is the same... the male dominates and breaks all longstanding female records across high school, college, and professional sports. Wait until this is really widespread and female sports just become male sports... as females disappear into the background. There is a massive difference between males living LIKE a woman and males claiming they ARE a women... and then demanding access to all female only spaces, all female sports, and all female sex based legally protected rights under the law. If words like “WOMAN” and “BIOLOGICAL SEX” can not be specifically defined in law... they are impossible to legally defend/protect in court. This is catastrophic for Females and Same Sex attracted people. LANGUAGE MATTERS. There are 2 sides to this... and This is the female athlete side. This is HER truth. vm.tiktok.com/ZMdyNkNmq/ And to add on... Interestingly enough... the Females injecting synthetic testosterone are not even remotely competitive in biological male sports. So if adding and reducing testosterone is the fix all to fairness... why is it so lopsided? Could it be that biology matters?
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Post by atv on Jun 23, 2021 10:54:05 GMT -5
The transgender weight lifter has the biological advantages of having “gone through puberty as a male, including increased bone and muscle density.”
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jun 23, 2021 10:59:40 GMT -5
I do not understand why we are allowing men to do this to women. I am sharing a video. Yes, I know this is just a tiktok... but this young woman’s voice on what it’s like to be a girl being stabbed in the back by this very male centered misogyny is heartbreaking. This is already happening in track/cross country , weightlifting, cycling, basketball, handball and numerous other sports. Every single situation is the same... the male dominates and breaks all longstanding female records across high school, college, and professional sports. Wait until this is really widespread and female sports just become male sports... as females disappear into the background. There is a massive difference between males living LIKE a woman and males claiming they ARE a women... and then demanding access to all female only spaces, all female sports, and all female sex based legally protected rights under the law. If words like “WOMAN” and “BIOLOGICAL SEX” can not be specifically defined in law... they are impossible to legally defend/protect in court. This is catastrophic for Females and Same Sex attracted people. LANGUAGE MATTERS. There are 2 sides to this... and This is the female athlete side. This is HER truth. vm.tiktok.com/ZMdyNkNmq/ Just to fix one thing in your above post. It is THE TRUTH not her truth or your truth. I hate that postmodernism crap. There is only one truth. There can not be your truth and my truth. Only one is true and that truth might not even be either one of what we think is the truth. This goes hand in hand with critical theory and why it is being said so much. It gets rid of there being only the truth and makes it based on perspectives and how oppressed your are, and if society deems a person as the most oppressed than their "truth" is the one everyone should go by. So a transgender African American female (really a male) says the sky is red, then me as a white male who knows the sky is blue cannot argue and I am wrong by default. We live in bizzaro stupid world and its only getting worse.
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Post by snow on Jun 23, 2021 11:05:41 GMT -5
I do not understand why we are allowing men to do this to women. I am sharing a video. Yes, I know this is just a tiktok... but this young woman’s voice on what it’s like to be a girl being stabbed in the back by this very male centered misogyny is heartbreaking. This is already happening in track/cross country , weightlifting, cycling, basketball, handball, MMA fighting and numerous other sports. Every single situation is the same... the male dominates and breaks all longstanding female records across high school, college, and professional sports. Wait until this is really widespread and female sports just become male sports... as females disappear into the background. There is a massive difference between males living LIKE a woman and males claiming they ARE a women... and then demanding access to all female only spaces, all female sports, and all female sex based legally protected rights under the law. If words like “WOMAN” and “BIOLOGICAL SEX” can not be specifically defined in law... they are impossible to legally defend/protect in court. This is catastrophic for Females and Same Sex attracted people. LANGUAGE MATTERS. There are 2 sides to this... and This is the female athlete side. This is HER truth. vm.tiktok.com/ZMdyNkNmq/ Just to fix one thing in your above post. It is THE TRUTH not her truth or your truth. I hate that postmodernism crap. There is only one truth. There can not be your truth and my truth. Only one is true and that truth might not even be either one of what we think is the truth. This goes hand in hand with critical theory and why it is being said so much. It gets rid of there being only the truth and makes it based on perspectives and how oppressed your are, and if society deems a person as the most oppressed than their "truth" is the one everyone should go by. So a transgender African American female (really a male) says the sky is red, then me as a white male who knows the sky is blue cannot argue and I am wrong by default. We live in bizzaro stupid world and its only getting worse. I 1,000% agree. I used HER truth in sarcasm because the ideology often uses language like “my truth” and “my feelings” ... as if they are THE truth. At it’s core... this is a WAR ON LANGUAGE.
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Post by papacoach on Jun 28, 2021 11:48:26 GMT -5
Too many stories of men moving to women’s sports and dominating but where’s the women’s to men’s sports success stories for equal balance for 🏳️⚧️?
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Post by footyfan on Jun 29, 2021 19:30:20 GMT -5
Too many stories of men moving to women’s sports and dominating but where’s the women’s to men’s sports success stories for equal balance for 🏳️⚧️? How many? Understand that you likely think one is too many, but do you know how many? How many in HS? In college? In Olympics? In pro? And what sports?
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 30, 2021 12:33:49 GMT -5
Should Yokoyama HAVE TO compete in men's soccer? Should changing one's gender REQUIRE they compete in that gender's sports?
Or should sports be defined by biological birth sex (and chromosomes)?
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Post by bogan on Jun 30, 2021 12:43:27 GMT -5
Should Yokoyama HAVE TO compete in men's soccer? Should changing one's gender REQUIRE they compete in that gender's sports? Or should sports be defined by biological birth sex (and chromosomes)? For me, the answer depends on whether it gives them an unfair advantage. If a biological female is taking testosterone shots, I’d say yes.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 30, 2021 18:40:18 GMT -5
Should Yokoyama HAVE TO compete in men's soccer? Should changing one's gender REQUIRE they compete in that gender's sports? Or should sports be defined by biological birth sex (and chromosomes)? For me, the answer depends on whether it gives them an unfair advantage. If a biological female is taking testosterone shots, I’d say yes. This is an interesting issue. There was a biological female at birth who was recruited to Harvard's women's swim team. He took a gap year to transition to male including mastectomy and I think hormone treatments but I cannot remember for sure. Anyhow he discussed the issue with Harvard and they offered a spot on which ever team the athlete wished to join. The athlete chose to be on the men's team. I would think that most athletes would want to join the team that is the gender they identify with though maybe not. The term transgender can apply to non-binary athletes as well. Some of them also say they are transgender but some do not. The whole thing is very complicated.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jul 1, 2021 8:29:00 GMT -5
How did this athlete fare on the mens team?
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jul 1, 2021 13:54:01 GMT -5
How did this athlete fare on the mens team? 3rd fastest breaststroke time on the team. Top 15% of all breaststroke times. Per what I read he started off with low expectations, but ended up being a significant contributor.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jul 1, 2021 17:25:44 GMT -5
One small nitpick, truth (like beauty) is subjective, facts are objective.
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Post by paterfamilias on Jul 3, 2021 19:30:45 GMT -5
Should we just have:
Men's sports Women's sports Transgender sports
Until some other issue comes up?
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