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Post by allthingsoccer on Jun 23, 2021 19:15:07 GMT -5
Good luck to the Atlanta United Academy teams this weekend as they battle in the MLSNext Playoffs.
Not sure of the other age groups U15/U16 but the U17s drew San Jose Earthquakes (6pm Sat) in the first round of single elimination knockout. The U19s drew New England Revolution (10am Sat).
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Post by hawkfan on Jun 23, 2021 20:15:21 GMT -5
Hope they play better then the big team. They have not scored an offensive goal in nearly 2 full games. They are absolutely inept tonight.
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Post by bogan on Jun 23, 2021 20:34:36 GMT -5
Hope they play better then the big team. They have not scored an offensive goal in nearly 2 full games. They are absolutely inept tonight. I thought I was watching the 2s… |
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Post by newposter on Jun 23, 2021 20:44:27 GMT -5
This whole organization seems lost. Other than Bello, they have gone out and bought their team. Bello really not developed by AU. I hope it gets better but I see this year being actually ending worse than last. Ugly!
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Post by papacoach on Jun 24, 2021 9:59:34 GMT -5
Link?
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jun 24, 2021 12:08:24 GMT -5
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Post by rifle on Jun 24, 2021 17:31:50 GMT -5
This whole organization seems lost. Other than Bello, they have gone out and bought their team. Bello really not developed by AU. I hope it gets better but I see this year being actually ending worse than last. Ugly! I love the George homegrown story but he hasn’t been very good this year. I was happy to see Jackson get some garbage minutes - hopefully he gets more chances since Cubo.. isn’t very good. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 24, 2021 17:56:58 GMT -5
Why is there so much negative energy surrounding anything to do with AU whether it is the academy or the AU 2 or the full team?
George Bello has looked fine this season. He is a kid. He is starting for AU. It does not matter if he was only in the academy for 1-2 years. AU is new. Homegrown that are effective will take time. We should all be wishing the Academy well.
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Post by bogan on Jun 24, 2021 18:09:50 GMT -5
I don’t know if it’s negativity or realism…probably a little of both.
I also think that when you have a team that has accomplished what AU has, people expect more.
TBH, it’s hard to watch ANY MLS game after watching the Euros or the Copa.
Maybe that’s where some of the negativity is coming from?🤷🏻♂️
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Post by Upper90 on Jun 24, 2021 18:16:34 GMT -5
Why is there so much negative energy surrounding anything to do with AU whether it is the academy or the AU 2 or the full team? George Bello has looked fine this season. He is a kid. He is starting for AU. It does not matter if he was only in the academy for 1-2 years. AU is new. Homegrown that are effective will take time. We should all be wishing the Academy well. I am the resounding broken record of this thought. The expectation that there needs to be immediate success at the academy level seems to be a novice school of thought. Five Stripes carry on... |
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Post by newposter on Jun 24, 2021 18:29:52 GMT -5
AU started 7 years ago. The average pro soccer career lasts 8 years. I am 100% an AU fan but see the huge step backwards this club has taken. I do not think anyone can argue this has not happened. I also do not see our AU Academy producing any players. Maybe they have but arent getting a playing chance but looking at the rosters I do not see it. I hope when everyone is back they go on a 4 or 5 game run.
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Post by soccernotfootball on Jun 24, 2021 18:47:36 GMT -5
Why is there so much negative energy surrounding anything to do with AU whether it is the academy or the AU 2 or the full team? George Bello has looked fine this season. He is a kid. He is starting for AU. It does not matter if he was only in the academy for 1-2 years. AU is new. Homegrown that are effective will take time. We should all be wishing the Academy well. Bello and then...? The results are looking slim. They started in 2016, rolling in players developed at other clubs (and mostly GA United). I think 6 years is enough time to start seeing more players of Bello's caliber. Hopefully they are coming up... Some of the other MLS academies are producing talent in much better numbers in that same timeframe. I do wish the AU academy well and I'd love to see local talent succeed and get eyeballs on the Atlanta-area soccer scene in general. |
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Post by bogan on Jun 24, 2021 18:53:39 GMT -5
Upper90 said, “ I am the resounding broken record of this thought.” Admission is the first step…😉
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 24, 2021 19:18:36 GMT -5
I don’t know if it’s negativity or realism…probably a little of both. I also think that when you have a team that has accomplished what AU has, people expect more. TBH, it’s hard to watch ANY MLS game after watching the Euros or the Copa. Maybe that’s where some of the negativity is coming from?🤷🏻♂️ TBH I have watched a lot of the Euros and am sad to say that several games have been painfully boring. Like Spain's first two games. England. Also Copas Argentina has looked pretty boring and inept as well. I feel bad for Messi just watching them. I can't say they have looked particularly skillful either. Germany seems unable to pass a ball that isn't a back pass or a square ball. I have not been impressed with a number of the national teams. Now watching EPL or La Liga is different. But watching the national teams has been painful. The lack of chemistry is evident. |
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Post by Upper90 on Jun 24, 2021 19:38:55 GMT -5
Upper90 said, “ I am the resounding broken record of this thought.” Admission is the first step…😉 My bad, lol...what I meant was that I (& basically all of my posts) AM the ultimate cheerleader of AU & their success & it annoys me the flack they always receive. Rome wasn’t built in a day as the saying goes...😉 |
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Post by bogan on Jun 24, 2021 19:53:25 GMT -5
I don’t know if it’s negativity or realism…probably a little of both. I also think that when you have a team that has accomplished what AU has, people expect more. TBH, it’s hard to watch ANY MLS game after watching the Euros or the Copa. Maybe that’s where some of the negativity is coming from?🤷🏻♂️ TBH I have watched a lot of the Euros and am sad to say that several games have been painfully boring. Like Spain's first two games. England. Also Copas Argentina has looked pretty boring and inept as well. I feel bad for Messi just watching them. I can't say they have looked particularly skillful either. Germany seems unable to pass a ball that isn't a back pass or a square ball. I have not been impressed with a number of the national teams. Now watching EPL or La Liga is different. But watching the national teams has been painful. The lack of chemistry is evident. Well, then… |
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Post by rifle on Jun 24, 2021 19:59:04 GMT -5
Why is there so much negative energy surrounding anything to do with AU whether it is the academy or the AU 2 or the full team? George Bello has looked fine this season. He is a kid. He is starting for AU. It does not matter if he was only in the academy for 1-2 years. AU is new. Homegrown that are effective will take time. We should all be wishing the Academy well. AU won the league in year 2 of their existence. MLS is pitiful.…and I’m a soccer nut so I will still be at the game Sunday. Maybe I’m being unrealistic about GB. Shouldn’t expect him to be the second coming of Marcelo. But people are saying he should be on the national team and I’m not seeing that yet. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 24, 2021 21:24:54 GMT -5
TBH I have watched a lot of the Euros and am sad to say that several games have been painfully boring. Like Spain's first two games. England. Also Copas Argentina has looked pretty boring and inept as well. I feel bad for Messi just watching them. I can't say they have looked particularly skillful either. Germany seems unable to pass a ball that isn't a back pass or a square ball. I have not been impressed with a number of the national teams. Now watching EPL or La Liga is different. But watching the national teams has been painful. The lack of chemistry is evident. Well, then… Listen to the analysts too. They are flabbergasted about how bad some of the usual powers are in this Euros. Now some of the games have been entertaining and I have not been able to see all of them, but Germany only seemed to get going with the subs. I have enjoyed watching some of the less heralded sides more than the usual powers. I am all for possession but Spain has 85 percent possession against Sweden but they looked just like AU when they are possessing but not actually attacking. Watch that game if you did not already and tell me that it doesn't bore you to tears the last 25 minutes. |
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Post by Keeper on Jun 24, 2021 21:49:08 GMT -5
So an Atlanta sports team, as well as an uncle Artie owned one is playing at the level they always do, mediocre. AU had one fluke year where they bought a championship, they became the Florida Marlins of the MLS. Funny how I remember saying these same things years ago as the organization has been flawed and only money obsessed since the beginning.
But best of luck and stay safe to all the kiddos in the academy playoffs!
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Post by allthingsoccer on Jun 24, 2021 22:22:01 GMT -5
Academy actually in its 5th year. Some solid talent.
You may see several HG coming in the near future. College HG is a real path and a lot have elected this path than signing an HG contract right out of the academy. Over 30 players in D1 at the moment. Could start paying off over the next 4 years.
So funny that people still try and compare MLS to Euro. You just can't, it will take years but you are seeing more and more talent from the US going over and becoming successful.
Anyways, it's great for these boys representing AU and local Georgia. Anyways off to Dallas.
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Post by bogan on Jun 25, 2021 4:40:28 GMT -5
After watching Portugal play France, it was incredibly difficult to watch Atlanta not get the ball in the attacking 1/3rd all night against NYCFC. MLS games in general are a bit slow and lacking in quality to other quality leagues/competitions. Like many others, I support the local team, but see the deficiencies that are apparent in the current squad. I don’t see the academy making up for that anytime soon. Realistically, it’s more of a path way to Men’s D1. That’s not bad, but it’s not going to build a 1st team anytime soon.
It that’s negativity, so be it.
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Post by bogan on Jun 25, 2021 5:11:45 GMT -5
Listen to the analysts too. They are flabbergasted about how bad some of the usual powers are in this Euros. Now some of the games have been entertaining and I have not been able to see all of them, but Germany only seemed to get going with the subs. I have enjoyed watching some of the less heralded sides more than the usual powers. I am all for possession but Spain has 85 percent possession against Sweden but they looked just like AU when they are possessing but not actually attacking. Watch that game if you did not already and tell me that it doesn't bore you to tears the last 25 minutes. The games I made time for were generally entertaining affairs, though I have to admit I made time for the smaller sides I don’t normally see since I figured the usual suspects would show up after the group stages. I watched the France/Portugal match since it had implications. The first 80 minutes were fun to watch. I’ll take your word for Spain-haven’t watched anything but highlights of their games-I’ll concede there weren’t many. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Jun 25, 2021 7:53:47 GMT -5
MLS takes a step back each time a new expansion team is announced. There are WAY too many MLS teams! I know more teams generate more league revenue shares and salaries but the product suffers and will take longer to be on par with other leagues.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jun 25, 2021 8:03:16 GMT -5
After watching Portugal play France, it was incredibly difficult to watch Atlanta not get the ball in the attacking 1/3rd all night against NYCFC. MLS games in general are a bit slow and lacking in quality to other quality leagues/competitions. Like many others, I support the local team, but see the deficiencies that are apparent in the current squad. I don’t see the academy making up for that anytime soon. Realistically, it’s more of a path way to Men’s D1. That’s not bad, but it’s not going to build a 1st team anytime soon. It that’s negativity, so be it. Dude, you honestly can't put Portugal/France and AU in the same post. C'mon, you know better than that 😉 And no, complaining about how your team is doing, especially when they blow a 2 zip lead in the last 15 minutes does not make one negative about their team... |
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Post by bogan on Jun 25, 2021 8:05:35 GMT -5
After watching Portugal play France, it was incredibly difficult to watch Atlanta not get the ball in the attacking 1/3rd all night against NYCFC. MLS games in general are a bit slow and lacking in quality to other quality leagues/competitions. Like many others, I support the local team, but see the deficiencies that are apparent in the current squad. I don’t see the academy making up for that anytime soon. Realistically, it’s more of a path way to Men’s D1. That’s not bad, but it’s not going to build a 1st team anytime soon. It that’s negativity, so be it. Dude, you honestly can't put Portugal/France and AU in the same post. C'mon, you know better than that 😉 And no, complaining about how your team is doing, especially when they blow a 2 zip lead in the last 15 minutes does not make one negative about their team... I know you bleed for AU-and I respect that-but they are mediocre at best. Shame really. (And yes, I concede putting National Teams vs any club team is a stretch at best-my point was AU is hard to watch lately. Wish it weren’t true.) |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jun 25, 2021 8:40:28 GMT -5
Is there negative energy when AU/Academy is brought up? IMO, yes, especially when it comes to the Academy. I think we need to all remember that this program is very very young. When you put it up against the stalwarts like FC Dallas who are considered by many to be the most successful Academy, and lead the league in producing HGs I think AU is doing well and is on track. So far Dallas has produced upwards of 31 HGs and AU 12 or so. But remember Dallas has been around for 25+ years and the AU academy started 5 years ago. They haven't even gotten to graduate their inaugural U12s(2004s) yet. I further looked into the first dirty dozen signed by Dallas and it's intriguing how they turned out. Most never made it past their initial HG contract before being released. So the question is how do we want to judge success for an Academy, first teamers, price of players, transfers to other MLS clubs or European clubs? It is okay to be critical of the AU Academy but there are some on here that have an almost visceral hate for the Academy. Remember, these are our sons who were forged in the local club academies...
1. NPSL
2. Inter Miami currently
3. USL
4. Guatemala
5. n/a
6. USL
7. Kellyn Acosta - Rapids, US Nat'l Team
8. Arena Soccer
9. USL
10. Budapest
11. USL
12. USL
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jun 25, 2021 8:47:42 GMT -5
Dude, you honestly can't put Portugal/France and AU in the same post. C'mon, you know better than that 😉 And no, complaining about how your team is doing, especially when they blow a 2 zip lead in the last 15 minutes does not make one negative about their team... I know you bleed for AU-and I respect that-but they are mediocre at best. Shame really. (And yes, I concede putting National Teams vs any club team is a stretch at best-my point was AU is hard to watch lately. Wish it weren’t true.) I can't argue with you, especially the last 15 mins of the Philly game and we won't talk about the NYCFC game. I'm taking this year as a "Gap" year, were we can just hopefully recognize the gaps and fill them with the right personnel so we can make a legitimate run next year...🤞 |
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Post by bogan on Jun 25, 2021 8:48:27 GMT -5
We forget too, that one of the missions of an academy is to build a generational fan base. AU is not MAN U-haven’t been around long enough to accomplish this.
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Post by rifle on Jun 25, 2021 20:45:10 GMT -5
It’s natural to be jealous of AU academy teams and players. They get the pick of the litter, from a talented pool - every team that faces them treats a scrimmage like a tournament final. AU academy players are forced to prove they belong. Every day. I think it’s a healthy jealousy.
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Post by hawkfan on Jun 25, 2021 22:09:05 GMT -5
I dont think they need to prove themselves daily. Rather I think some on the forum need to give credit to non AU players who are as good but choose to not to pursue that pathway. I saw someone mention AU as a D1 pathway. There are plenty of non AU players who play D1 even as teammates with AU players.
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