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Post by ball2futbol on Sept 4, 2021 23:28:18 GMT -5
The ECNL clubs are right about where they should be in my opinion. Part of being “Elite” involves not having an excessive amount of teams in the league that will potentially water down the product. The other thing is, from reading some of the posts, folks have to start making an honest assessment about their child’s athletic ceiling. Based on my experience, if you ask most parents at damn near any level, they will tell you (with a straight face) that their kid should be playing up a level or two. The reality is, many of these kids are not putting in anywhere near the work required to get where they want to go, or they simply don’t have the athleticism needed to make a significant jump. But…..go off. I agree “elite” leagues should stay selective and I also feel ECNL has given too many passes to teams/clubs not deserving, one or two of which are in the Atlanta area. But your delivery reminds me of a coach that doesn’t put in near the work required to get their team/player where they want to go, yet given the title of “coach” of an “elite” team. Many coaches neglect their obligation of being a coach is to actually “coach”. If clubs/coaches don’t feel a player has the ability, then that should be communicated with clarity. But we know that won’t happen, so the blind will keep leading the blind circus continues. It’s simple economics of supply and demand. Keep providing people with a pricing and structural model that rewards quantity over quality... then your end result is consumer expectations will naturally be unrealistic. Currently the quality demanded does not equal equality supplied. |
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Post by bogan on Sept 5, 2021 8:21:35 GMT -5
IMHO:
1. Don’t confuse “exclusive” with “elite.” Locked system where there is no way to enter except by a vote of the oligarchy isn’t elite…elitist perhaps.
2. There are many coaches out there whose egos outweigh their intelligence, ability, and licenses.
3. Most parents want what’s best for their kids…I don’t fault them for promoting them. Reality usually hits by high school-it works itself out.
4. As I’m fond of saying, enjoy the ride cause it’s over too soon. Try not to get caught up with the “league of the moment.”
Hope everyone is enjoying their long weekend. Think I’m going to catch the Georgia Southern/Wofford game tonight. Cheers!
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Ann K.
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Post by Ann K. on Sept 12, 2021 0:00:18 GMT -5
The ECNL clubs are right about where they should be in my opinion. Part of being “Elite” involves not having an excessive amount of teams in the league that will potentially water down the product. The other thing is, from reading some of the posts, folks have to start making an honest assessment about their child’s athletic ceiling. Based on my experience, if you ask most parents at damn near any level, they will tell you (with a straight face) that their kid should be playing up a level or two. The reality is, many of these kids are not putting in anywhere near the work required to get where they want to go, or they simply don’t have the athleticism needed to make a significant jump. But…..go off. I really don't think you have the familiarity with anyone posting to make assumptions on whether they can make an honest assessment of their child. Speaking from personal experience, when your kid gets called up to play with teams 4 levels above their current level and a year up I think it's safe to say they should be playing up.
To your next point, if a coach can't raise your child's "athletic ceiling" on their own they shouldn't be a coach. After a certain age, 85-90% of players want to do something with the sport, whether it be coaching, sports management, or playing. I think it's somewhat naive to say that players aren't putting in the work required to get to the next level. Soccer in America is not designed for hard-workers or kids with natural grit it's designed for kids who have parents that can afford to put in thousands of dollars with private skill trainers, strength trainers, etc. I mean there's a reason we're beginning to see a decline on the women's side (national team), and why the men never seem to be able to deliver. It's wonderful that our players can run 8 miles per game with no rest, but it doesn't matter how much our players can run if they lack the soccer IQ to figure out what to do off the ball. Teams at every level are being taught to blast the ball and chase after it. I guess running after the ball is a good example of athleticism, but where's the quality? |
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Post by mamadona on Sept 13, 2021 10:47:45 GMT -5
The ECNL clubs are right about where they should be in my opinion. Part of being “Elite” involves not having an excessive amount of teams in the league that will potentially water down the product. The other thing is, from reading some of the posts, folks have to start making an honest assessment about their child’s athletic ceiling. Based on my experience, if you ask most parents at damn near any level, they will tell you (with a straight face) that their kid should be playing up a level or two. The reality is, many of these kids are not putting in anywhere near the work required to get where they want to go, or they simply don’t have the athleticism needed to make a significant jump. But…..go off. I really don't think you have the familiarity with anyone posting to make assumptions on whether they can make an honest assessment of their child. Speaking from personal experience, when your kid gets called up to play with teams 4 levels above their current level and a year up I think it's safe to say they should be playing up.
To your next point, if a coach can't raise your child's "athletic ceiling" on their own they shouldn't be a coach. After a certain age, 85-90% of players want to do something with the sport, whether it be coaching, sports management, or playing. I think it's somewhat naive to say that players aren't putting in the work required to get to the next level. Soccer in America is not designed for hard-workers or kids with natural grit it's designed for kids who have parents that can afford to put in thousands of dollars with private skill trainers, strength trainers, etc. I mean there's a reason we're beginning to see a decline on the women's side (national team), and why the men never seem to be able to deliver. It's wonderful that our players can run 8 miles per game with no rest, but it doesn't matter how much our players can run if they lack the soccer IQ to figure out what to do off the ball. Teams at every level are being taught to blast the ball and chase after it. I guess running after the ball is a good example of athleticism, but where's the quality? ------------------- (I can't figure out the quote thing, sorry) You said soccer in America is not designed for hard workers. But then you said players can run 8 miles per game but might not have the soccer IQ. You're kinda contradicting yourself...? I started thinking about it. It seems to be a lot about effort. Working hard, running a lot. But players who maybe not run as much but make smart passes, they are not rewarded as much as the ones that run like little Duracell bunnies but don't actually achieve much. Dribble all the way along the line but then lose the ball is "awesome". Stand around more but make a few decent passes, you get subbed out. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 13, 2021 12:50:59 GMT -5
I tell you why you should have left GSA especially at their main fields.... The referees... Good Lord, my younger kid's academy team had the unlucky venue assigned in the GSA Junior Cup, and boy do their Referees leave much to be desired, and it took me all I had in me not to say something given I'm a referee myself. Luckily the bad officiating didn't change outcomes of games, but I don't think the older gentleman even knew what zip code he was in much less able to actually referee correctly...
I had always heard from friends that have kids in GSA that a lot of the younger Academy age referees are horrible, but I didn't think it was that bad.
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Post by Keeper on Sept 14, 2021 11:00:34 GMT -5
I tell you why you should have left GSA especially at their main fields.... The referees... Good Lord, my younger kid's academy team had the unlucky venue assigned in the GSA Junior Cup, and boy do their Referees leave much to be desired, and it took me all I had in me not to say something given I'm a referee myself. Luckily the bad officiating didn't change outcomes of games, but I don't think the older gentleman even knew what zip code he was in much less able to actually referee correctly... I had always heard from friends that have kids in GSA that a lot of the younger Academy age referees are horrible, but I didn't think it was that bad. Not just academy aged games, if you’re not ECNL there is a 75% chance your center is Charles Barkley turrible. |
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Post by bogan on Sept 14, 2021 11:20:23 GMT -5
I tell you why you should have left GSA especially at their main fields.... The referees... Good Lord, my younger kid's academy team had the unlucky venue assigned in the GSA Junior Cup, and boy do their Referees leave much to be desired, and it took me all I had in me not to say something given I'm a referee myself. Luckily the bad officiating didn't change outcomes of games, but I don't think the older gentleman even knew what zip code he was in much less able to actually referee correctly... I had always heard from friends that have kids in GSA that a lot of the younger Academy age referees are horrible, but I didn't think it was that bad. Not just academy aged games, if you’re not ECNL there is a 75% chance your center is Charles Barkley turrible. 🤣 |
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