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Post by soccerforprofit on Aug 23, 2021 12:28:45 GMT -5
Just wondering what the local ecnl clubs are doing with regards to training each week.
UFA does 4 nights a training -- it obviously varies depending upon weekend workload etc.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 23, 2021 12:56:20 GMT -5
Just wondering what the local ecnl clubs are doing with regards to training each week. UFA does 4 nights a training -- it obviously varies depending upon weekend workload etc. I know that AFU girls are doing 4 nights/week. |
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 23, 2021 13:12:09 GMT -5
Concorde is 3 nights a week.
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Post by Brinker on Aug 23, 2021 13:17:44 GMT -5
NASA boys is 3 nights
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Post by Keeper on Aug 23, 2021 16:17:32 GMT -5
AFU Boys 3/4 sessions depending on coach.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Aug 24, 2021 10:30:11 GMT -5
Just wondering what the local ecnl clubs are doing with regards to training each week. UFA does 4 nights a training -- it obviously varies depending upon weekend workload etc. I know that AFU girls are doing 4 nights/week.
I don't understand why they think 1.5 hours more per week will make a huge difference. Unless they are spending the entire 4th day on corners/set pieces/throw-ins/goal kicks/situational plays/etc (places where quick/"special" goals happen that often shift the game). And the case for over-work can definitely be made.
The other option would be to go Coerver with skills or finishing/shooting work...things AFU coaches almost never do.
If its just another night of run-2/3-drills-then-scrimmage...its not going to help much for the 30-40 extra hours through the fall IMO. Especially when you're generally behind the 8-ball with regard to talent as compared to GSA and Concorde (and UFA at the older ages currently).
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 24, 2021 11:01:21 GMT -5
I know that AFU girls are doing 4 nights/week.
I don't understand why they think 1.5 hours more per week will make a huge difference. Unless they are spending the entire 4th day on corners/set pieces/throw-ins/goal kicks/situational plays/etc (places where quick/"special" goals happen that often shift the game). And the case for over-work can definitely be made.
The other option would be to go Coerver with skills or finishing/shooting work...things AFU coaches almost never do.
If its just another night of run-2/3-drills-then-scrimmage...its not going to help much for the 30-40 extra hours through the fall IMO. Especially when you're generally behind the 8-ball with regard to talent as compared to GSA and Concorde (and UFA at the older ages currently).
I'm new to AFU and my kid is ECNL-R, so I don't really have a dog in this fight. But let's say what you're saying is true - that those clubs have more talent than AFU. If you're AFU and you know this, maybe you think adding a practice each week will help with that talent gap? At what point does additional practice time produce diminishing returns? (I don't know, just asking the question out loud here.) My assumption is that it will be up to the coach on a weekly basis to determine if a 4th practice is necessary. If the team plays in a tournament or has a weekend of travel for their games, I'm sure they'll get Monday off most of the time, then practice Tue-Thu. Or if the team is a little banged up or the coach just senses they need a break, he has the flexibility to do that. Or that they have good practices Mon-Wed and have a full weekend of games coming up, the coach can give them a Thursday night off to rest up. All that to say - I bet between the coach letting the team have nights off and then weather cancellations, there won't be that many weeks in which they practice all 4 nights. |
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Post by flamengo100 on Aug 24, 2021 11:36:39 GMT -5
I heard SSA MLS Next was going to 4 x a week through a parent but maybe somebody could confirm. The 4th training would be focused on watching game film and working out in their new gym?
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Post by reading1soccer on Aug 24, 2021 14:40:20 GMT -5
Tophat gold 4 nights of training. If no games are played over the weekend they will train one of those days as well.
Tophat navy and dpl train 3 nights a week.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Aug 24, 2021 14:46:24 GMT -5
I heard SSA MLS Next was going to 4 x a week through a parent but maybe somebody could confirm. The 4th training would be focused on watching game film and working out in their new gym? I believe MLS Next requires clubs to train 4 nights a week. |
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 24, 2021 14:52:02 GMT -5
Tophat gold 4 nights of training. If no games are played over the weekend they will train one of those days as well. Tophat navy and dpl train 3 nights a week. Why does Tophat like its gold team more than its navy team? I think since they are playing in the same league, they would practice the same amount of time. |
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Post by coffee on Aug 24, 2021 15:16:41 GMT -5
And of course I’m going to put in a plug for the keepers.
Many keepers (no, not all) are doing 2-3 GK training sessions per week. Some of those may be on the same day as the team training that they attend, and some are in addition to the days they train with the team. The ratio of time spent in team training vs time spent in GK training varies between clubs a surprising amount.
I’ve known a few field players will train with a personal trainer to work on a set of skills, or aspects of athleticism.
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Post by dadofthree on Aug 24, 2021 17:57:56 GMT -5
Would agree. My daughter does an additional 4 hours during the week at keeper training in additional to her 4 practices per week. Folks have said she will burn out but she has been doing it for 2 or 3 years and is a U17 and she loves it.
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Post by crazzzy4soccer on Aug 24, 2021 19:55:43 GMT -5
Tophat gold 4 nights of training. If no games are played over the weekend they will train one of those days as well. Tophat navy and dpl train 3 nights a week. Why does Tophat like its gold team more than its navy team? I think since they are playing in the same league, they would practice the same amount of time. Was this really a question? |
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 24, 2021 20:04:54 GMT -5
Why does Tophat like its gold team more than its navy team? I think since they are playing in the same league, they would practice the same amount of time. Was this really a question? Did it have a question mark at the end? |
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Post by soccer888 on Aug 25, 2021 7:17:43 GMT -5
SSA seems to be stepping up their game for top teams - and finally paying attention to the girls' side. SSA GA also practices 4x a week with a classroom for watching film and a weight room. Plus a strength & conditioning coach. They need time to build, but it'll be interesting to see if they grow.
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Post by Keeper on Aug 25, 2021 9:13:12 GMT -5
I know that AFU girls are doing 4 nights/week.
I don't understand why they think 1.5 hours more per week will make a huge difference. Unless they are spending the entire 4th day on corners/set pieces/throw-ins/goal kicks/situational plays/etc (places where quick/"special" goals happen that often shift the game). And the case for over-work can definitely be made.
The other option would be to go Coerver with skills or finishing/shooting work...things AFU coaches almost never do.
If its just another night of run-2/3-drills-then-scrimmage...its not going to help much for the 30-40 extra hours through the fall IMO. Especially when you're generally behind the 8-ball with regard to talent as compared to GSA and Concorde (and UFA at the older ages currently).
Just the idea of wasting team practice time on set pieces is mind boggling. About as useful as teaching cursive to elementary kids. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 25, 2021 9:33:55 GMT -5
I don't understand why they think 1.5 hours more per week will make a huge difference. Unless they are spending the entire 4th day on corners/set pieces/throw-ins/goal kicks/situational plays/etc (places where quick/"special" goals happen that often shift the game). And the case for over-work can definitely be made.
The other option would be to go Coerver with skills or finishing/shooting work...things AFU coaches almost never do.
If its just another night of run-2/3-drills-then-scrimmage...its not going to help much for the 30-40 extra hours through the fall IMO. Especially when you're generally behind the 8-ball with regard to talent as compared to GSA and Concorde (and UFA at the older ages currently).
Just the idea of wasting team practice time on set pieces is mind boggling. About as useful as teaching cursive to elementary kids. At the young ages I don't think set piece time is worthy. But why does everyone say that about the older ages. It seems like the colleges and pros spend time on it (maybe not throw ins except Liverpool did and it improved their results a lot). Set pieces are a big part of the game at the elite levels. I am not suggesting 1.5 hours on it per week but 1 hour every other week is not a bad idea. Interestingly cursive writing practice does improve their regular hand writing. It is likely a lost art but it is a shame. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 25, 2021 9:38:09 GMT -5
Was this really a question? Did it have a question mark at the end? Valid question. Why does a club that has a team in the same league treat the team as a second class citizen? Last year both the 08 and 06 teams went to the playoffs. The 06 Navy team actually had a higher seed the the 06 gold team. They lost some players from that Navy team to other clubs. Would they have lost those kids if they treated the teams equally? I do not know but my guess is that it may make a difference to some players that they are treated as a second class citizen. |
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Post by 0507coop23dad on Aug 25, 2021 9:48:13 GMT -5
I don't understand why they think 1.5 hours more per week will make a huge difference. Unless they are spending the entire 4th day on corners/set pieces/throw-ins/goal kicks/situational plays/etc (places where quick/"special" goals happen that often shift the game). And the case for over-work can definitely be made.
The other option would be to go Coerver with skills or finishing/shooting work...things AFU coaches almost never do.
If its just another night of run-2/3-drills-then-scrimmage...its not going to help much for the 30-40 extra hours through the fall IMO. Especially when you're generally behind the 8-ball with regard to talent as compared to GSA and Concorde (and UFA at the older ages currently).
Just the idea of wasting team practice time on set pieces is mind boggling. About as useful as teaching cursive to elementary kids. I see your point, but coaches could also take 10 minutes before practice once a week to give instruction. Sure, it doesn’t do much for player development except save embarrassment on the pitch, but when half the GA are on set pieces, the best taker of free kicks, corners, and PKs have not been identified, and nobody has much confidence in what they’re doing, it can be a problem. We’ve already played a team that obviously has worked not only on set pieces, but how to earn them - and it cost us a win by giving up an equalizer. It doesn’t take much time but it does take at least addressing the issue. |
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Post by newguy on Aug 25, 2021 12:57:20 GMT -5
Just the idea of wasting team practice time on set pieces is mind boggling. About as useful as teaching cursive to elementary kids. I see your point, but coaches could also take 10 minutes before practice once a week to give instruction. Sure, it doesn’t do much for player development except save embarrassment on the pitch, but when half the GA are on set pieces, the best taker of free kicks, corners, and PKs have not been identified, and nobody has much confidence in what they’re doing, it can be a problem. We’ve already played a team that obviously has worked not only on set pieces, but how to earn them - and it cost us a win by giving up an equalizer. It doesn’t take much time but it does take at least addressing the issue. There was actually an article in The Athletic on Monday that this could the year of set pieces in the Premier League this year because so many teams have brought on coaches specifically focused on this area. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Aug 25, 2021 15:46:01 GMT -5
Not working on set pieces is at your own peril. Its very often the difference in a game. This goes to PKs also. If you're not working on them, you will regularly lose to the equivalent teams that do.
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Post by justhavefun on Aug 25, 2021 22:10:26 GMT -5
Just the idea of wasting team practice time on set pieces is mind boggling. About as useful as teaching cursive to elementary kids. At the young ages I don't think set piece time is worthy. But why does everyone say that about the older ages. It seems like the colleges and pros spend time on it (maybe not throw ins except Liverpool did and it improved their results a lot). Set pieces are a big part of the game at the elite levels. I am not suggesting 1.5 hours on it per week but 1 hour every other week is not a bad idea. Interestingly cursive writing practice does improve their regular hand writing. It is likely a lost art but it is a shame. |
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Post by justhavefun on Aug 25, 2021 22:12:06 GMT -5
I know Keep311, because AFU never loses on set pieces…🤣
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