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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 29, 2021 11:45:02 GMT -5
yea, lets keep it toned down -- it's become a very difficult call to make.
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Post by rifle on Sept 29, 2021 12:00:41 GMT -5
I hate when posts get deleted. The peanut gallery is left wondering what happened.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 29, 2021 12:07:32 GMT -5
I hate when posts get deleted. The peanut gallery is left wondering what happened. nothing was deleted by me -- i think it's all there, some name calling etc. |
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Post by soccerloafer on Sept 29, 2021 16:37:50 GMT -5
And incidentally, I didn’t intend to offend you. Asshat. Administrator / Moderator - is there a penalty here? Seems to be a bit past civil disagreement. |
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Post by soccerloafer on Sept 29, 2021 16:39:28 GMT -5
FIFA will have to address this. IMO they need to give refs the power to call a forfeit for such an offending team (and thus a win for the other team and likely negative points for the offender). These things can be addressed very quickly. Call it the "nuclear option". IF that was the CF/UFA game right before our game on Saturday, there was a fight or near fight where a player from each team was ejected and a couple near fights between parents. We benefited (sarcasm) from one of the AR's of that game center reffing our game and calling every ticky-tacky bump by our players in the first half and only a couple of UFA's (ref was British or Aussie). No hard feelings...but not called evenly. Referees can't forfeit a game, but they can certainly terminate a match. Then it's up to the league to decide what to do. |
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Post by bogan on Sept 29, 2021 16:41:24 GMT -5
And incidentally, I didn’t intend to offend you. Asshat. Administrator / Moderator - is there a penalty here? Seems to be a bit past civil disagreement. I think a yellow card was issued 🟨 |
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Post by soccerloafer on Sept 29, 2021 16:46:04 GMT -5
And the challenging piece is that a natural body position for girls is different than boys. This was demo'd at a recert several years ago. Had two younger refs (players), boy and girl, come to the front and had them both jump a few times (without telling them why). The arm positions were totally different, boys in closer, girls out further. Both were natural movements with no ball or play involved. I'm really looking at intent - when the ball is blasted into a defender's arm from 5 feet away, what could the defender have done? Tucking the arms behind them while moving backward to jockey an attacker is not feasible, puts them at a balance disadvantage. Also look at skill level etc. Awful, awful, awful! No one can possibly know intent. People game the system or has your head been in the sand all your life. Please tell us you’re not a ref. If you are please let me know where you ref so I can come and boo you. The subjective judgement of intent is ridiculous and should be banned - it is bad for the sport, bad for results, bad for the profession. Can you freaking imagine a home plate umpire trying to judge whether or not a pitcher “intended” to hit a batter and award 1st base on that basis. Call the damn handball, asshat. So, ever hear of 'spirit of the game?' Probably not. Soccer is officiated differently than any other major sport. It's not black and white. Refereeing is constantly making judgements - careless, reckless, excessive force - on side / off side - in / out - advantage / foul - tactical foul / DOGSO. Is a player cursing at himself or an opponent? The same incident (say a player collision) could be nothing, a foul, a caution, or an ejection - depending on intent, circumstances, etc. You know, judgement. |
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Post by rifle on Sept 29, 2021 16:54:33 GMT -5
I hate when posts get deleted. The peanut gallery is left wondering what happened. nothing was deleted by me -- i think it's all there, some name calling etc. I assumed there was another message above the one that talked about a HAT… figured it was self censored. |
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Post by paterfamilias on Sept 29, 2021 19:18:48 GMT -5
Kudos to the moderator for using superb discretion in allowing the thread to continue unabated and unaltered
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