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Post by Soccerhouse on Nov 9, 2021 17:11:57 GMT -5
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Post by SoccerMom on Nov 10, 2021 7:23:59 GMT -5
Yea, heard the AD told him that he needed a coach that actually wants to get to NCAA tournament.
Its their best season in a while, but I guess not good enough
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Nov 10, 2021 8:48:16 GMT -5
Over due
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Post by atlfutboldad on Nov 10, 2021 10:21:15 GMT -5
Odd timing. Their last 2 years were the best of his tenure.
Prior to that he was running it into the ground.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Nov 10, 2021 10:42:37 GMT -5
Odd timing. Their last 2 years were the best of his tenure. Prior to that he was running it into the ground. On the face of it, yes, it seems like odd timing given how they've done the last few years. But look deeper - our new AD (Josh Brooks) took over less than a year ago. He knows this program should be a lot better and that with a veteran team that included one of the top goal scorers in the country, we couldn't get into the NCAA tournament and lost in the 1st round of the SEC tournament. I think Brooks knows we likely peaked this year under Lesesne.
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Post by atv on Nov 10, 2021 14:13:44 GMT -5
It’s all about winning. (Not that it needs stating here because everyone of course understands this but it keeps people grounded.)
The new coach, whoever it will be, will have freedom to bring in the people they want to build the type of program they think will be successful.
For example, I think Randy Waldrum, coach at Pittsburgh Women’s soccer, cut almost the entire team when he took over in 2017. Not saying that’s going to happen BUT it could…… because new college coaches like to come in and make changes. Could be an opportunity for some and others may be casualties of the transition.
However one thing you can count on is this, the people that tell you they know what’s going to happen actually have no idea. Only the new head coach knows that.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Nov 10, 2021 15:59:40 GMT -5
What will happen to all of those kids who committed? Today is signing day. I imagine they won't get letters sent to them and why would you sign without knowing for sure if you will like the coaches. Do the new coaches honor the commitment? Seems like that would be a hard "no."
I know a kid who just committed there about 3 or 4 weeks ago. I feel bad for her. Now she has to look elsewhere or hope that the new coach will want her. Meanwhile I am sure a lot of those kids already sent (or did not send) applications to schools and have to scramble. Ugh!
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Nov 10, 2021 16:24:20 GMT -5
What will happen to all of those kids who committed? Today is signing day. I imagine they won't get letters sent to them and why would you sign without knowing for sure if you will like the coaches. Do the new coaches honor the commitment? Seems like that would be a hard "no." I know a kid who just committed there about 3 or 4 weeks ago. I feel bad for her. Now she has to look elsewhere or hope that the new coach will want her. Meanwhile I am sure a lot of those kids already sent (or did not send) applications to schools and have to scramble. Ugh! They signed 6 players: georgiadogs.com/news/2021/11/10/soccer-georgia-announces-2022-signing-class.aspxIs one of them the kid you know?
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Post by oraclesfriend on Nov 10, 2021 17:55:54 GMT -5
What will happen to all of those kids who committed? Today is signing day. I imagine they won't get letters sent to them and why would you sign without knowing for sure if you will like the coaches. Do the new coaches honor the commitment? Seems like that would be a hard "no." I know a kid who just committed there about 3 or 4 weeks ago. I feel bad for her. Now she has to look elsewhere or hope that the new coach will want her. Meanwhile I am sure a lot of those kids already sent (or did not send) applications to schools and have to scramble. Ugh! They signed 6 players: georgiadogs.com/news/2021/11/10/soccer-georgia-announces-2022-signing-class.aspxIs one of them the kid you know? I saw the Twitter posts! I was very surprised. So who sent the letters? The AD? Seems a little scary to me...signing with a program and you don't know who the coach will be... Yes. The player I know did sign. I had not had a chance to ask her dad if she was going to go ahead with it. The Georgia kids I guess it is not such a big leap but the out of state kids...seems like a big risk to me.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Nov 11, 2021 8:49:01 GMT -5
Yes the team had a pretty good year, still, it wasn't good enough to make the tourney. His contract was up, why renew when he does nothing dynamic to warrant him being kept on. Doesn't recruit well, doesn't capitalize on the Hope scholarship to fill the gaps left by scholarships alone, doesn't leverage the fact that UGA is in the SEC, great schools, strong financially, Football Saturdays. Rich breeding ground in Metro Atlanta for talented players wasted. I mean, you don't even have to travel far to scout players. I wish him well, but in college sports you know the drill. New AD wants his/her own people, so will only retain you, if you're early into a long contract, or you're producing on the field/court/pitch/etc.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Nov 11, 2021 8:56:31 GMT -5
I saw the Twitter posts! I was very surprised. So who sent the letters? The AD? Seems a little scary to me...signing with a program and you don't know who the coach will be... Yes. The player I know did sign. I had not had a chance to ask her dad if she was going to go ahead with it. The Georgia kids I guess it is not such a big leap but the out of state kids...seems like a big risk to me. I'd guess that our AD or someone just under him was all over this. I'd be very curious to hear how this went down from the recruits' side of things. I'm wondering if the girl you know is the same one who won nationals at UFA Norcross under Sergio.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Nov 11, 2021 8:58:35 GMT -5
I saw the Twitter posts! I was very surprised. So who sent the letters? The AD? Seems a little scary to me...signing with a program and you don't know who the coach will be... Yes. The player I know did sign. I had not had a chance to ask her dad if she was going to go ahead with it. The Georgia kids I guess it is not such a big leap but the out of state kids...seems like a big risk to me. I'd guess that our AD or someone just under him was all over this. I'd be very curious to hear how this went down from the recruits' side of things. I'm wondering if the girl you know is the same one who won nationals at UFA Norcross under Sergio. Sent you a DM.
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Post by atv on Nov 11, 2021 10:28:14 GMT -5
Yes the team had a pretty good year, still, it wasn't good enough to make the tourney. His contract was up, why renew when he does nothing dynamic to warrant him being kept on. Doesn't recruit well, doesn't capitalize on the Hope scholarship to fill the gaps left by scholarships alone, doesn't leverage the fact that UGA is in the SEC, great schools, strong financially, Football Saturdays. Rich breeding ground in Metro Atlanta for talented players wasted. I mean, you don't even have to travel far to scout players. I wish him well, but in college sports you know the drill. New AD wants his/her own people, so will only retain you, if you're early into a long contract, or you're producing on the field/court/pitch/etc. These are all great points. In particular recruiting territory. For example, in other college sports, the home state and recruiting territory generally translates to more successful, powerhouse programs. But look at SEC women’s soccer regular season standings. Arkansas, Tennessee, and Ole Miss at the top while soccer hot bed states like Georgia #8, Texas A&M #10, Florida #12 are in the middle and bottom. It seems like using in-state incentives to offset scholarship differences and local recruiting would be more impactful.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Nov 11, 2021 11:17:44 GMT -5
Yes the team had a pretty good year, still, it wasn't good enough to make the tourney. His contract was up, why renew when he does nothing dynamic to warrant him being kept on. Doesn't recruit well, doesn't capitalize on the Hope scholarship to fill the gaps left by scholarships alone, doesn't leverage the fact that UGA is in the SEC, great schools, strong financially, Football Saturdays. Rich breeding ground in Metro Atlanta for talented players wasted. I mean, you don't even have to travel far to scout players. I wish him well, but in college sports you know the drill. New AD wants his/her own people, so will only retain you, if you're early into a long contract, or you're producing on the field/court/pitch/etc. These are all great points. In particular recruiting territory. For example, in other college sports, the home state and recruiting territory generally translates to more successful, powerhouse programs. But look at SEC women’s soccer regular season standings. Arkansas, Tennessee, and Ole Miss at the top while soccer hot bed states like Georgia #8, Texas A&M #10, Florida #12 are in the middle and bottom. It seems like using in-state incentives to offset scholarship differences and local recruiting would be more impactful. Florida has used too many in state players in the last several years IMO. Florida has some good teams and players but the school usually has at least 2-3 players from Tampa and Florida Elite each. Neither of those programs is great nationally. They have good teams but they are not as good as Concorde, Tophat or some other national powerhouses like So Cal Blues or Solar. Florida needs to recruit out of state more, not in state. As a Gator fan I have watched this for the last few years...they need more kids from stud programs. The new coach signed a few west coast kids. Hopefully this will help! Now UGA should take more in state kids. More Tophat and CF and GSA kids. Now UFA too.
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Post by atv on Nov 11, 2021 11:45:25 GMT -5
What about Ole Miss and Arkansas? There has got to be “a higher percent” out of state players seeing the field, on these teams yet they are doing well!
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Post by atv on Nov 11, 2021 12:40:58 GMT -5
I looked at AR and MS rosters. Although these teams are pulling in a few girls nationally they are recruiting their general region. Arkansas relies heavily on recruiting sister states Texas (11 players) and Oklahoma while they only have a couple girls from their home state. Mississippi recruits the entire Southeast with only a couple girls from MS.
Georgia probably has similar recruiting tactics focused on GA and other nearby states and some players further away. They signed 4 or 5 players this year from Georgia, so recruiting Georgia probably wasn’t the problem. Maybe it was bringing in the right players to fit their style of play, having the team ready to play, and others have mentioned tactics & execution on game day.
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on Nov 11, 2021 19:34:48 GMT -5
IMO I think the team turned around when coach Lane joined. I believe he bought the passion and the love of the game. I believe the energy level changed and Georgia recruits heard about the fun they were having and the winning started. They are still ways off but heading in the right direction. If Lane doesn’t get the job I hope A young high energy coach comes in and his first call is to Lane. I am sure we have some GA player parents on here that can tell us if my opinion is close to being true
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Post by soccergirldad on Nov 22, 2021 11:05:47 GMT -5
I can't understand for the life of me why UGA doesn't heavily recruit top players from the Metro Atlanta area! There is far too much talent in the area to not land any of these girls. I know two girls on the current team and one that's will be a freshman next year. For the girls currently on the team it was more of them reaching out to UGA than it was UGA going after them. Almost every year we have MULTIPLE girls that are ranked nationally by soccer websites but UGA never even made attempts to go after any of them. UGA could pretty much field a team with top-level talent, without any athlete having to pay a thing with the use of HOPE plus athletic money. Between TH, GSA & Concorde alone UGA could put out a pretty formidable squad every year if they went after the top players. It's crazy to look at the rosters of schools out of state, Pac 12, ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big East and see a lot of our local girls making major contributions to those programs and knowing that a major school in their back yard never even gave them a call. A lot of these girls are even UGA fans but still heard nothing from the school. My daughter was on a call with an SEC coach, who could not believe that UGA had not even been in touch with my daughter even though she lives an hour away from the campus, and she was a nationally ranked player. I really don't believe that UGA takes it's women's soccer program seriously because there is no way that can be this bad at recruiting in their own back yard. Hopefully the next coach will fix this and then there won't be a need to rotate the coaches every four to five years.
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Post by 04gparent on Nov 22, 2021 11:27:11 GMT -5
I can't understand for the life of me why UGA doesn't heavily recruit top players from the Metro Atlanta area! There is far too much talent in the area to not land any of these girls. I know two girls on the current team and one that's will be a freshman next year. For the girls currently on the team it was more of them reaching out to UGA than it was UGA going after them. Almost every year we have MULTIPLE girls that are ranked nationally by soccer websites but UGA never even made attempts to go after any of them. UGA could pretty much field a team with top-level talent, without any athlete having to pay a thing with the use of HOPE plus athletic money. Between TH, GSA & Concorde alone UGA could put out a pretty formidable squad every year if they went after the top players. It's crazy to look at the rosters of schools out of state, Pac 12, ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big East and see a lot of our local girls making major contributions to those programs and knowing that a major school in their back yard never even gave them a call. A lot of these girls are even UGA fans but still heard nothing from the school. My daughter was on a call with an SEC coach, who could not believe that UGA had not even been in touch with my daughter even though she lives an hour away from the campus, and she was a nationally ranked player. I really don't believe that UGA takes it's women's soccer program seriously because there is no way that can be this bad at recruiting in their own back yard. Hopefully the next coach will fix this and then there won't be a need to rotate the coaches every four to five years. Here is the dirtly little secret.... The top players would prefer to play in the ACC or PAC 12 than the SEC. Most Top players want to compete for a National Championship and Georgia historically has NOT been a place where you could do that. Also, ome players in the SouthEast would rather live in Sunny California or go to a better Academic instition than UGA. So, UGA doesnt necessarily have a recruiting advantage in their back yard with the top 150. Now covid and the extra year of eligibility is changing some of that, but that is the historical trend for the TOP top PLAYERS. Lastly, just because you're on TH or GSA or ConFire and now UFA doesnt necesarily mean you are a top player. In order for UGA to win the SEC and even advance in the tourney they will need top players and tactics. Thats your why...
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Post by oraclesfriend on Nov 22, 2021 11:45:05 GMT -5
I can't understand for the life of me why UGA doesn't heavily recruit top players from the Metro Atlanta area! There is far too much talent in the area to not land any of these girls. I know two girls on the current team and one that's will be a freshman next year. For the girls currently on the team it was more of them reaching out to UGA than it was UGA going after them. Almost every year we have MULTIPLE girls that are ranked nationally by soccer websites but UGA never even made attempts to go after any of them. UGA could pretty much field a team with top-level talent, without any athlete having to pay a thing with the use of HOPE plus athletic money. Between TH, GSA & Concorde alone UGA could put out a pretty formidable squad every year if they went after the top players. It's crazy to look at the rosters of schools out of state, Pac 12, ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big East and see a lot of our local girls making major contributions to those programs and knowing that a major school in their back yard never even gave them a call. A lot of these girls are even UGA fans but still heard nothing from the school. My daughter was on a call with an SEC coach, who could not believe that UGA had not even been in touch with my daughter even though she lives an hour away from the campus, and she was a nationally ranked player. I really don't believe that UGA takes it's women's soccer program seriously because there is no way that can be this bad at recruiting in their own back yard. Hopefully the next coach will fix this and then there won't be a need to rotate the coaches every four to five years. Here is the dirtly little secret.... The top players would prefer to play in the ACC or PAC 12 than the SEC. Most Top players want to compete for a National Championship and Georgia historically has NOT been a place where you could do that. Also, ome players in the SouthEast would rather live in Sunny California or go to a better Academic instition than UGA. So, UGA doesnt necessarily have a recruiting advantage in their back yard with the top 150. Now covid and the extra year of eligibility is changing some of that, but that is the historical trend for the TOP top PLAYERS. Lastly, just because you're on TH or GSA or ConFire and now UFA doesnt necesarily mean you are a top player. In order for UGA to win the SEC and even advance in the tourney they will need top players and tactics. Thats your why... OK I agree with some of this, BUT there are a number of girls from the area that go to other SEC schools that don't have better academic reputations, like Auburn and South Carolina and Ole Miss and MSU. I could go on. A lot of Tophat top players who have stayed in the SEC went to Vandy and I agree that academic wise that proves some of your point. But the other SEC schools except for Florida are ranked lower academically. UGA SHOULD at least reach out to these girls. You never know what will sway a player. No doubt PAC 12 and ACC have historically been stronger than SEC but you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Same goes here. Even if you get 1 or 2 of those you were not getting before it will help get you into the NCAA tourney.
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Post by Keeper on Nov 22, 2021 12:15:05 GMT -5
Just to poke the lil puppy a bit, soccer players are typically smart kids and smart kids don’t go to UGA. 😂
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Post by soccergirldad on Nov 22, 2021 13:45:02 GMT -5
Here is the dirtly little secret.... The top players would prefer to play in the ACC or PAC 12 than the SEC. Most Top players want to compete for a National Championship and Georgia historically has NOT been a place where you could do that. Also, ome players in the SouthEast would rather live in Sunny California or go to a better Academic instition than UGA. So, UGA doesnt necessarily have a recruiting advantage in their back yard with the top 150. Now covid and the extra year of eligibility is changing some of that, but that is the historical trend for the TOP top PLAYERS. Lastly, just because you're on TH or GSA or ConFire and now UFA doesnt necesarily mean you are a top player. In order for UGA to win the SEC and even advance in the tourney they will need top players and tactics. Thats your why... Here is the dirtly little secret.... The top players would prefer to play in the ACC or PAC 12 than the SEC. Most Top players want to compete for a National Championship and Georgia historically has NOT been a place where you could do that. Also, ome players in the SouthEast would rather live in Sunny California or go to a better Academic instition than UGA. So, UGA doesnt necessarily have a recruiting advantage in their back yard with the top 150. Now covid and the extra year of eligibility is changing some of that, but that is the historical trend for the TOP top PLAYERS. Lastly, just because you're on TH or GSA or ConFire and now UFA doesnt necesarily mean you are a top player. In order for UGA to win the SEC and even advance in the tourney they will need top players and tactics. Thats your why... I really think you missed my point. I understand about the Cali weather and liking other schools, my point was and is that UGA doesn't even try to communicate with these girls to see if there is even a chance they would want to UGA. Second I only used TH, GSA & Concorde as references as there are plenty of girls in those clubs that are quite frankly not very good but there are some that are, and let's be honest most of the top girl players from Atlanta come out of those three clubs, specifically TH & Concorde......And just because UGA is not good now doesn't mean that they can never be good. I'm old enough to remember when The New England Patriots were GARBAGE, the Saints were GARBAGE, the Golden State Warriors were GARBAGE etc., etc but kids today think that those teams have always been great. Lastly all it takes is for one class to make something special happen and people will follow and want to do the same. I'm not even a UGA fan but I still believe they miss out on an incredible opportunity by not even trying. "She will never say yes if you don't ask her!"
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Post by oraclesfriend on Nov 22, 2021 13:52:00 GMT -5
Just to poke the lil puppy a bit, soccer players are typically smart kids and smart kids don’t go to UGA. 😂 Haha! I am not a UGA fan either and love to poke at them, but UGA does attract all sorts of smart kids nowadays.
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Post by 04gparent on Nov 22, 2021 13:59:41 GMT -5
Here is the dirtly little secret.... The top players would prefer to play in the ACC or PAC 12 than the SEC. Most Top players want to compete for a National Championship and Georgia historically has NOT been a place where you could do that. Also, ome players in the SouthEast would rather live in Sunny California or go to a better Academic instition than UGA. So, UGA doesnt necessarily have a recruiting advantage in their back yard with the top 150. Now covid and the extra year of eligibility is changing some of that, but that is the historical trend for the TOP top PLAYERS. Lastly, just because you're on TH or GSA or ConFire and now UFA doesnt necesarily mean you are a top player. In order for UGA to win the SEC and even advance in the tourney they will need top players and tactics. Thats your why... I really think you missed my point. I understand about the Cali weather and liking other schools, my point was and is that UGA doesn't even try to communicate with these girls to see if there is even a chance they would want to UGA. Second I only used TH, GSA & Concorde as references as there are plenty of girls in those clubs that are quite frankly not very good but there are some that are, and let's be honest most of the top girl players from Atlanta come out of those three clubs, specifically TH & Concorde......And just because UGA is not good now doesn't mean that they can never be good. I'm old enough to remember when The New England Patriots were GARBAGE, the Saints were GARBAGE, the Golden State Warriors were GARBAGE etc., etc but kids today think that those teams have always been great. Lastly all it takes is for one class to make something special happen and people will follow and want to do the same. I'm not even a UGA fan but I still believe they miss out on an incredible opportunity by not even trying. "She will never say yes if you don't ask her!" Thanks for the clarification. We dont know each other so we dont know the other's perspective. My daughter is a 2022 and I know Georgia did reach out and recruit several players who are signing elsewhere in the ACC or SEC. They decided on other schools for many of the reasons I mentioned above. Either way I think we both want to the same thing. Georgia being really good at Womens soccer would be great. We will see who they hire to replace the old coaches. My main point is winning at UGA is harder than we think. Most of their competitors are just as well funded as they are with some having better academics. The style of play will be a HUGE factor as well for some potential recruits.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Nov 30, 2021 17:40:02 GMT -5
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Post by soccergirldad on Dec 2, 2021 12:45:04 GMT -5
Now its about to get INTERESTING!!!!!!!!!!! I can guarantee you that the new coach will go after the local TOP talent and will actually land a fare share of them.
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