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Post by onekickpop on Nov 16, 2021 14:59:33 GMT -5
What percentage of academy grads (AU for the sake of this discussion) move forward into D1 schools or USL/first team rosters, Europe/abroad? I am aware of those that have moved on to Clemson or are now playing with Tony Annan and other top schools, but curious to see the statistics. All else being equal is an MLS Academy player more favorable to a D1 school than an equivalent player from MLS Next/ECNL/NPL (same grades, etc).
I see many schools picking up players from all the above but I often wonder if the AU distinction on their resume gives them any real advantage over an equivalent player who wasn’t part of the Academy.
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Post by flix on Nov 16, 2021 15:19:54 GMT -5
What percentage of academy grads (AU for the sake of this discussion) move forward into D1 schools or USL/first team rosters, Europe/abroad? I am aware of those that have moved on to Clemson or are now playing with Tony Annan and other top schools, but curious to see the statistics. All else being equal is an MLS Academy player more favorable to a D1 school than an equivalent player from MLS Next/ECNL/NPL (same grades, etc). I see many schools picking up players from all the above but I often wonder if the AU distinction on their resume gives them any real advantage over an equivalent player who wasn’t part of the Academy. There is an article on dirtysouthsoccer that goes over Atlanta United academy graduates who are playing in the NCAA tournament. I don’t know how to post the link, sorry. It doesn’t address all your questions but it has some information. Me personally, I don’t think where you played is as important as what type of player you are. |
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Post by rifle on Nov 16, 2021 19:57:23 GMT -5
I suspect it has a certain “resume boost” because you probably don’t play for AU if you’re not pretty darn good. But players get scholarships not teams. So shine as bright as you can in as prominent a team as you can play for - the rest should fall into place accordingly.
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Post by bogan on Nov 16, 2021 20:16:15 GMT -5
I suspect it has a certain “resume boost” because you probably don’t play for AU if you’re not pretty darn good. But players get scholarships not teams. So shine as bright as you can in as prominent a team as you can play for - the rest should fall into place accordingly. I agree. I will add: make sure your athlete likes the University they are applying to…unless it’s obvious your athlete is going pro, coaches want to know why your son/daughter chose the college/University. Soccer is only a part of the equation. I have several friends who are college coaches and this is one of their first questions. |
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Post by newguy on Nov 17, 2021 7:26:04 GMT -5
What percentage of academy grads (AU for the sake of this discussion) move forward into D1 schools or USL/first team rosters, Europe/abroad? I am aware of those that have moved on to Clemson or are now playing with Tony Annan and other top schools, but curious to see the statistics. All else being equal is an MLS Academy player more favorable to a D1 school than an equivalent player from MLS Next/ECNL/NPL (same grades, etc). I see many schools picking up players from all the above but I often wonder if the AU distinction on their resume gives them any real advantage over an equivalent player who wasn’t part of the Academy. There is an article on dirtysouthsoccer that goes over Atlanta United academy graduates who are playing in the NCAA tournament. I don’t know how to post the link, sorry. It doesn’t address all your questions but it has some information. Me personally, I don’t think where you played is as important as what type of player you are. Here you go: www.dirtysouthsoccer.com/2021/11/16/22783639/atlanta-united-academy-ncaa-tournament-preview |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Nov 17, 2021 12:17:49 GMT -5
If you look at the D1 one rosters its a mix of HighSchool, Club, MLS, and International.
As for USL, much higher chance moving into USL from the MLS Academy but some go from Academy to D1 to USL/ MLS.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Nov 18, 2021 13:10:43 GMT -5
What percentage of academy grads (AU for the sake of this discussion) move forward into D1 schools or USL/first team rosters, Europe/abroad? I am aware of those that have moved on to Clemson or are now playing with Tony Annan and other top schools, but curious to see the statistics. All else being equal is an MLS Academy player more favorable to a D1 school than an equivalent player from MLS Next/ECNL/NPL (same grades, etc). I see many schools picking up players from all the above but I often wonder if the AU distinction on their resume gives them any real advantage over an equivalent player who wasn’t part of the Academy. It is my understanding that yes you will see top programs pull players from both MLS and non-MLS academies around the country. The difference is usually you're given the benefit of the doubt when you're at an MLS Academy, especially if you've been there a while. Additionally, you have the full weight and might of the marketing team at an MLS Academy to put a shine on your game. One parent told me the difference between her two kids one at an MLS Academy and the other at a regular soccer club, was that coaches were reaching out to the MLS kid to convince and sell him on their college program. The non-MLS Academy kid had to prove to the coaches and college that he was worthy of attending and playing at their college. Additionally, recruiting MLS caliber players to your program gives a boost to your program from an optics standpoint. The girls equivalent I used in the past was having TH on your resume. Carried a little more weight that some of the other local soccer clubs... |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Nov 18, 2021 13:33:44 GMT -5
What percentage of academy grads (AU for the sake of this discussion) move forward into D1 schools or USL/first team rosters, Europe/abroad? I am aware of those that have moved on to Clemson or are now playing with Tony Annan and other top schools, but curious to see the statistics. All else being equal is an MLS Academy player more favorable to a D1 school than an equivalent player from MLS Next/ECNL/NPL (same grades, etc). I see many schools picking up players from all the above but I often wonder if the AU distinction on their resume gives them any real advantage over an equivalent player who wasn’t part of the Academy. It is my understanding that yes you will see top programs pull players from both MLS and non-MLS academies around the country. The difference is usually you're given the benefit of the doubt when you're at an MLS Academy, especially if you've been there a while. Additionally, you have the full weight and might of the marketing team at an MLS Academy to put a shine on your game. One parent told me the difference between her two kids one at an MLS Academy and the other at a regular soccer club, was that coaches were reaching out to the MLS kid to convince and sell him on their college program. The non-MLS Academy kid had to prove to the coaches and college that he was worthy of attending and playing at their college. Additionally, recruiting MLS caliber players to your program gives a boost to your program from an optics standpoint. The girls equivalent I used in the past was having TH on your resume. Carried a little more weight that some of the other local soccer clubs... Yeah you would think they do a lot but AU is not really proactive as they should be in helping the boys fulfill there College dreams. Actually it is very disappointing. Some rumors have been they tell the interested University the player wouldn't be a good fit. So grass isnt always greener |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Nov 18, 2021 13:46:22 GMT -5
I'm sure that's the case for some of the players, but I know for a fact that some others get crazy love and support from AU too. They help with calls to the college coaches/staff, collating video highlights and putting the specific players in prime positions when they know the college scouts are on hand. This helps bring up a very important point. In your recruiting years, make sure you have a coach that believes in you and your abilities. You don't want to lose out on a scholarship because your coach is not your biggest fan and advocate. Most college coaches will discuss players with the head coach. Make sure they like you...
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Post by allthingsoccer on Nov 19, 2021 6:12:50 GMT -5
I'm sure that's the case for some of the players, but I know for a fact that some others get crazy love and support from AU too. They help with calls to the college coaches/staff, collating video highlights and putting the specific players in prime positions when they know the college scouts are on hand. This helps bring up a very important point. In your recruiting years, make sure you have a coach that believes in you and your abilities. You don't want to lose out on a scholarship because your coach is not your biggest fan and advocate. Most college coaches will discuss players with the head coach. Make sure they like you... Yes you are very correct. Not sure I understand the logic but its AUs biggest down fall. Each player has given up so much and just because the coach doesnt know you they decide to do nothing. They tell everyone at the start to trust the process. Well the process is broken. |
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Post by thisonedude on Nov 19, 2021 16:09:46 GMT -5
I'm sure that's the case for some of the players, but I know for a fact that some others get crazy love and support from AU too. They help with calls to the college coaches/staff, collating video highlights and putting the specific players in prime positions when they know the college scouts are on hand. This helps bring up a very important point. In your recruiting years, make sure you have a coach that believes in you and your abilities. You don't want to lose out on a scholarship because your coach is not your biggest fan and advocate. Most college coaches will discuss players with the head coach. Make sure they like you... Truth. But don't rely on the club coach to generate the interest. At least in our family's non-MLS Academy recruiting experience, the player reaching out to colleges generated about two-thirds of the recruiting connections. Those contacts reached out to the club coach, so it was good to have them as an advocate at that stage. |
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