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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 11, 2022 6:12:15 GMT -5
U.S. UNDER-15 WOMEN’S YOUTH NATIONAL TEAM TO HOLD FIRST TRAINING CAMP UNDER NEW HEAD COACH KATIE SCHOEPFER tittlepress.com/world/1438447/ Locally, 3 ladies from Metro ATL get the call, congratulations 👏👏👏 U-15 USWNT ROSTER BY POSITION (CLUB; HOMETOWN) - JANUARY TRAINING CAMP GOALKEEPERS (4): Gabrielle Baker (PDA; Hillsborough, N.J.), Morgan Farnham (LAFC SoCal Youth; Studio City, Calif.), Olivia Geller (Solar SC; Southlake, Texas), Molly Vapensky (Chicago FC United; Evanston, Ill.) DEFENDERS (8): Trinity Armstrong (Solar SC; Dallas Texas), Mya Brandon (Michigan Hawks, Canton, Mich.), Leilani Cortez-Ramirez (FC Bay Area Surf; San Jose, Calif.), Maddie Costello (SUSA; Stony Brook, N.Y.), Jordyn Hardeman (Solar SC; Frisco, Texas), Daya King (Legends FC; Moreno Valley, Calif.), Sadie Leal-Schuman (Lamorinda SC; Orinda, Calif.), Kai Price (Concorde Fire; Atlanta, Ga.)
MIDFIELDERS (14): Kimmi Ascanio (Florida United; Doral, Fla.), Sofia Atehortua (New York Soccer Club; Fairfield, Conn.), Addison DeJoseph (United Futbol Academy; Roswell, Ga.), Kennedy Fuller (Solar SC; Southlake, Texas), Hannah Harms (Virginia Union; Vienna, Va.), Hannah Jordan (Solar SC; Southlake, Texas), Chelsea Leal (STA; New York, N.Y.), Zoe Matthews (Solar SC, Southlake, Texas), Ainsley McCammon (Solar, SC; Aubrey, Texas), Y-Lan Nguyen (VDA; Fairfax, Va.), Chloe Sadler (La Roca FC; Hyde Park, Utah), Adrielle Salvador (LAFC SoCal Youth; Newhall, Calif.), Paige Thompson (Mountain View Los Altos; Walnut Creek, Calif.), Lily Yohannes (Ajax; Springfield, Va.) FORWARDS (8): Alexa DeJoseph (United Futbol Academy; Roswell, Ga.), Julianna Harris (Florida United; Pembroke Pines, Fla.), Ava Harrison (San Diego Soccer Club; San Diego, Calif.), Carrie Helfrich (Virginia Union; Mclean, Va.), Tessa Knapp (Internationals Soccer Club; Bay Village, Ohio), Shiana Samarasinghe (Mountain View Los Altos; San Jose, Calif.), Katie Scott (Internationals Soccer Club; Erie, Penn.), Mya Townes (TSJ FC Virginia; Stone Ridge, Va.)
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Post by 04gparent on Jan 11, 2022 12:41:43 GMT -5
U.S. UNDER-15 WOMEN’S YOUTH NATIONAL TEAM TO HOLD FIRST TRAINING CAMP UNDER NEW HEAD COACH KATIE SCHOEPFER tittlepress.com/world/1438447/ Locally, 3 ladies from Metro ATL get the call, congratulations 👏👏👏 U-15 USWNT ROSTER BY POSITION (CLUB; HOMETOWN) - JANUARY TRAINING CAMP GOALKEEPERS (4): Gabrielle Baker (PDA; Hillsborough, N.J.), Morgan Farnham (LAFC SoCal Youth; Studio City, Calif.), Olivia Geller (Solar SC; Southlake, Texas), Molly Vapensky (Chicago FC United; Evanston, Ill.) DEFENDERS (8): Trinity Armstrong (Solar SC; Dallas Texas), Mya Brandon (Michigan Hawks, Canton, Mich.), Leilani Cortez-Ramirez (FC Bay Area Surf; San Jose, Calif.), Maddie Costello (SUSA; Stony Brook, N.Y.), Jordyn Hardeman (Solar SC; Frisco, Texas), Daya King (Legends FC; Moreno Valley, Calif.), Sadie Leal-Schuman (Lamorinda SC; Orinda, Calif.), Kai Price (Concorde Fire; Atlanta, Ga.)
MIDFIELDERS (14): Kimmi Ascanio (Florida United; Doral, Fla.), Sofia Atehortua (New York Soccer Club; Fairfield, Conn.), Addison DeJoseph (United Futbol Academy; Roswell, Ga.), Kennedy Fuller (Solar SC; Southlake, Texas), Hannah Harms (Virginia Union; Vienna, Va.), Hannah Jordan (Solar SC; Southlake, Texas), Chelsea Leal (STA; New York, N.Y.), Zoe Matthews (Solar SC, Southlake, Texas), Ainsley McCammon (Solar, SC; Aubrey, Texas), Y-Lan Nguyen (VDA; Fairfax, Va.), Chloe Sadler (La Roca FC; Hyde Park, Utah), Adrielle Salvador (LAFC SoCal Youth; Newhall, Calif.), Paige Thompson (Mountain View Los Altos; Walnut Creek, Calif.), Lily Yohannes (Ajax; Springfield, Va.) FORWARDS (8): Alexa DeJoseph (United Futbol Academy; Roswell, Ga.), Julianna Harris (Florida United; Pembroke Pines, Fla.), Ava Harrison (San Diego Soccer Club; San Diego, Calif.), Carrie Helfrich (Virginia Union; Mclean, Va.), Tessa Knapp (Internationals Soccer Club; Bay Village, Ohio), Shiana Samarasinghe (Mountain View Los Altos; San Jose, Calif.), Katie Scott (Internationals Soccer Club; Erie, Penn.), Mya Townes (TSJ FC Virginia; Stone Ridge, Va.) Congrats to those who made it... For FYI these are players born on or after 1/1/2007...
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Post by fridge on Jan 17, 2022 16:10:11 GMT -5
Congrats to those who make it, but I have come to the conclusion that while it truly is an honor and cool accolade, beyond that, in my humble opinion, the youth national team is pretty much a waste. First, it makes no sense. Spending a few weeks a year playing at this level seems like a nominal benefit. Perhaps it shows players what the next level looks like and I guess that is something. However, they get a good sense of the next level in college especially if they are on a Power 5 or highly ranked program. Second, the USWNT senior team truly turns to the seasoned talent of the NWSL and perhaps a few college kids for the handful of positions that aren't occupied by 10+ year players like Rapinoe, Morgan, O'Hara, Johnson, etc. Does it really matter that a girl was at a u15 national camp 7 years earlier? Fourth, I truly believe that it actually can have a negative effect on a player--e.g. breeding superiority complex, entitlement, selfishness, lack of grit, etc. NOT EVERYONE, but some seem to develop elitist attitudes that come back to bite them in the long run. I haven't done any study, but I suspect of the 50 girls who got called into the U15 camp 7 years ago, a very small percentage get a real shot at the senior team. And, whoever those players are, I doubt it was because they went to camp at U15. In sum, I don't see much of a benefit and there is a GREAT difference in players from U15 to 24 years old. Maybe I'm wrong. I'd love to hear as I rather get the 1 time I'm wrong out of the way early in 2022!
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jan 17, 2022 18:10:15 GMT -5
Congrats to those who make it, but I have come to the conclusion that while it truly is an honor and cool accolade, beyond that, in my humble opinion, the youth national team is pretty much a waste. First, it makes no sense. Spending a few weeks a year playing at this level seems like a nominal benefit. Perhaps it shows players what the next level looks like and I guess that is something. However, they get a good sense of the next level in college especially if they are on a Power 5 or highly ranked program. Second, the USWNT senior team truly turns to the seasoned talent of the NWSL and perhaps a few college kids for the handful of positions that aren't occupied by 10+ year players like Rapinoe, Morgan, O'Hara, Johnson, etc. Does it really matter that a girl was at a u15 national camp 7 years earlier? Fourth, I truly believe that it actually can have a negative effect on a player--e.g. breeding superiority complex, entitlement, selfishness, lack of grit, etc. NOT EVERYONE, but some seem to develop elitist attitudes that come back to bite them in the long run. I haven't done any study, but I suspect of the 50 girls who got called into the U15 camp 7 years ago, a very small percentage get a real shot at the senior team. And, whoever those players are, I doubt it was because they went to camp at U15. In sum, I don't see much of a benefit and there is a GREAT difference in players from U15 to 24 years old. Maybe I'm wrong. I'd love to hear as I rather get the 1 time I'm wrong out of the way early in 2022! But don't they have an actual U17 team that competes against other countries? So wouldn't it seem prudent to get a good look at some of these girls a few years before they get to that U17 age group? I hear what you're saying in terms of the mental aspect - getting called into national team camp is quite an accomplishment. And some kids may feel like they've "made it" by getting invited, which may take away some of that burning desire to get better. But is that the case for all of them or maybe just a few? If it's just a few, then those few were probably not USWNT material anyways. If it's all of them, then yes, maybe having a U15 nat'l team camp isn't a great idea.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 18, 2022 10:42:09 GMT -5
Meanwhile, the Boys U15 & U17 YNT are also going to camp...BTW not one player from the Metro Atlanta/Georgia region 😨
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Post by fridge on Jan 18, 2022 10:54:52 GMT -5
Congrats to those who make it, but I have come to the conclusion that while it truly is an honor and cool accolade, beyond that, in my humble opinion, the youth national team is pretty much a waste. First, it makes no sense. Spending a few weeks a year playing at this level seems like a nominal benefit. Perhaps it shows players what the next level looks like and I guess that is something. However, they get a good sense of the next level in college especially if they are on a Power 5 or highly ranked program. Second, the USWNT senior team truly turns to the seasoned talent of the NWSL and perhaps a few college kids for the handful of positions that aren't occupied by 10+ year players like Rapinoe, Morgan, O'Hara, Johnson, etc. Does it really matter that a girl was at a u15 national camp 7 years earlier? Fourth, I truly believe that it actually can have a negative effect on a player--e.g. breeding superiority complex, entitlement, selfishness, lack of grit, etc. NOT EVERYONE, but some seem to develop elitist attitudes that come back to bite them in the long run. I haven't done any study, but I suspect of the 50 girls who got called into the U15 camp 7 years ago, a very small percentage get a real shot at the senior team. And, whoever those players are, I doubt it was because they went to camp at U15. In sum, I don't see much of a benefit and there is a GREAT difference in players from U15 to 24 years old. Maybe I'm wrong. I'd love to hear as I rather get the 1 time I'm wrong out of the way early in 2022! But don't they have an actual U17 team that competes against other countries? So wouldn't it seem prudent to get a good look at some of these girls a few years before they get to that U17 age group? I hear what you're saying in terms of the mental aspect - getting called into national team camp is quite an accomplishment. And some kids may feel like they've "made it" by getting invited, which may take away some of that burning desire to get better. But is that the case for all of them or maybe just a few? If it's just a few, then those few were probably not USWNT material anyways. If it's all of them, then yes, maybe having a U15 nat'l team camp isn't a great idea. Good points. I appreciate other countries have teams and competitions. We don't have to participate. I am not sure how much the federation spends on the youth programs, I would think millions. For what? Maybe give that $ back to the senior teams in compensation.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jan 18, 2022 11:00:50 GMT -5
It is what it is -- can't even get Atlanta representation on these teams anymore. These teams are MLS academy allstar teams vs USYNT teams.
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Post by Respect on Jan 18, 2022 18:21:38 GMT -5
Congrats to those who make it, but I have come to the conclusion that while it truly is an honor and cool accolade, beyond that, in my humble opinion, the youth national team is pretty much a waste. First, it makes no sense. Spending a few weeks a year playing at this level seems like a nominal benefit. Perhaps it shows players what the next level looks like and I guess that is something. However, they get a good sense of the next level in college especially if they are on a Power 5 or highly ranked program. Second, the USWNT senior team truly turns to the seasoned talent of the NWSL and perhaps a few college kids for the handful of positions that aren't occupied by 10+ year players like Rapinoe, Morgan, O'Hara, Johnson, etc. Does it really matter that a girl was at a u15 national camp 7 years earlier? Fourth, I truly believe that it actually can have a negative effect on a player--e.g. breeding superiority complex, entitlement, selfishness, lack of grit, etc. NOT EVERYONE, but some seem to develop elitist attitudes that come back to bite them in the long run. I haven't done any study, but I suspect of the 50 girls who got called into the U15 camp 7 years ago, a very small percentage get a real shot at the senior team. And, whoever those players are, I doubt it was because they went to camp at U15. In sum, I don't see much of a benefit and there is a GREAT difference in players from U15 to 24 years old. Maybe I'm wrong. I'd love to hear as I rather get the 1 time I'm wrong out of the way early in 2022! Life and happiness happen every day. Achievements help build a strong sense of purpose and confidence, especially those with personal value and distinctive. Extremely successful people find fulfillment in every day life’s moments, challenge themselves to grow, and connect to other things larger than themselves. Assuming these players are not entitled and earned their place, this a valuable experience whether or not they dress up for the USWNT a few years from now. Just a different way to see and value one’s life and ‘success’ in it.
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Post by collegesoccer on Jan 19, 2022 6:11:43 GMT -5
Congrats to those who make it, but I have come to the conclusion that while it truly is an honor and cool accolade, beyond that, in my humble opinion, the youth national team is pretty much a waste. First, it makes no sense. Spending a few weeks a year playing at this level seems like a nominal benefit. Perhaps it shows players what the next level looks like and I guess that is something. However, they get a good sense of the next level in college especially if they are on a Power 5 or highly ranked program. Second, the USWNT senior team truly turns to the seasoned talent of the NWSL and perhaps a few college kids for the handful of positions that aren't occupied by 10+ year players like Rapinoe, Morgan, O'Hara, Johnson, etc. Does it really matter that a girl was at a u15 national camp 7 years earlier? Fourth, I truly believe that it actually can have a negative effect on a player--e.g. breeding superiority complex, entitlement, selfishness, lack of grit, etc. NOT EVERYONE, but some seem to develop elitist attitudes that come back to bite them in the long run. I haven't done any study, but I suspect of the 50 girls who got called into the U15 camp 7 years ago, a very small percentage get a real shot at the senior team. And, whoever those players are, I doubt it was because they went to camp at U15. In sum, I don't see much of a benefit and there is a GREAT difference in players from U15 to 24 years old. Maybe I'm wrong. I'd love to hear as I rather get the 1 time I'm wrong out of the way early in 2022! It is interesting to study - several years ago my daughter looked at the U23 WNT and the full WNT. She wanted to know if she was passed over by not getting called in at U14 or 15. What she found was that the average first time call up to U23 or WNT was U18-19. At that point she set a long term goal for U18-19. For her it was not about the accolade - it was more about working toward a goal in addition to a top college team. So far she’s continued to make progress on her timeline. We’ll see if it pays off. On the other hand we’ve seen several players called into YNT camps who have struggled to stay motivated and develop afterward. There may be some truth to the feeling that they’ve arrived.
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