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Post by bogan on Jan 27, 2022 20:51:43 GMT -5
Well, not the prettiest game I’ve watched…but points nonetheless.
Pulisic didn’t seem himself-wonder if he was feeling ok?
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Post by rifle on Jan 27, 2022 21:49:28 GMT -5
Well, not the prettiest game I’ve watched…but points nonetheless. Pulisic didn’t seem himself-wonder if he was feeling ok? CP is really good but he gets pushed around so hard in concacaf that I have no idea how he plays in EPL. I’m really liking Weston McKennie. He is getting better and better and he’s got just the right blend of skills balls fearlessness lunacy and strength. Some new players in the mix which is good. I like it because nobody should feel like they’re on the WC roster. Gotta earn the spot. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jan 28, 2022 7:46:13 GMT -5
I'm rooting for Pulisic and love watching him play when he's really "on", but back in 2019 I spoke to an acquaintance who is related to Greg Berhalter and he said that Pulisic is a bit of a head case.
Based on that conversation and what I've observed, I'd say he's better off in the Bundesliga, where he was getting more consistent minutes and there was less pressure. Mentally I think it's a better place for him.
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Post by rifle on Jan 30, 2022 11:11:54 GMT -5
Todays match vs Canada 3:05 PM on paramount plus. Player IN CANADA IN JANUARY. Hope it’s a good match.
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Post by bogan on Jan 30, 2022 13:34:00 GMT -5
Todays match vs Canada 3:05 PM on paramount plus. Player IN CANADA IN JANUARY. Hope it’s a good match. Thanks for the heads up that it’s on Paramount Plus…Guess I’ll get another free trial and cancel it after the fixture. |
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Post by bogan on Jan 30, 2022 16:07:28 GMT -5
Todays match vs Canada 3:05 PM on paramount plus. Player IN CANADA IN JANUARY. Hope it’s a good match. Thanks for the heads up that it’s on Paramount Plus…Guess I’ll get another free trial and cancel it after the fixture. Why are they playing on turf? I thought that was not allowed? |
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Post by rifle on Jan 30, 2022 16:35:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up that it’s on Paramount Plus…Guess I’ll get another free trial and cancel it after the fixture. Why are they playing on turf? I thought that was not allowed? Is that definitely artificial? I’ve got it muted. |
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Post by bogan on Jan 30, 2022 16:38:38 GMT -5
Why are they playing on turf? I thought that was not allowed? Is that definitely artificial? I’ve got it muted. Yes. They didn’t say why though. |
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Post by bogan on Jan 30, 2022 17:04:13 GMT -5
Well, that was forgettable.
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Post by rifle on Jan 30, 2022 17:30:33 GMT -5
Well, that was forgettable. didn’t look to dangerous, that’s for sure. |
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Post by bogan on Jan 30, 2022 18:54:06 GMT -5
Well, that was forgettable. didn’t look to dangerous, that’s for sure. The word I would use is “flaccid.” |
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Post by hotspur1 on Jan 30, 2022 20:19:19 GMT -5
Zardes. Morris. Come on.
Wish we could move on from our coach but with the nepotism that is US soccer that won’t happen. We’ll just piss away the best talent that has suited up for the US in a decade.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 31, 2022 9:54:32 GMT -5
Question for the group. How truthful is this statement and what would you suggest we do to resolve this issue. Keeping in mind the WC will be on our shores in 4 short years...
"We have a gifted team with great young men, but Gregg Berhalter is tactically incompetent. It’s the result that reflects the gap in coaching"
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Post by mightydawg on Jan 31, 2022 10:15:05 GMT -5
Question for the group. How truthful is this statement and what would you suggest we do to resolve this issue. Keeping in mind the WC will be on our shores in 4 short years... "We have a gifted team with great young men, but Gregg Berhalter is tactically incompetent. It’s the result that reflects the gap in coaching" No idea what you are talking about. That was the most dominant performance ever by a team not to get a result. Just ask Berhalter. "I think it was an entire team effort that was outstanding," Berhalter said. "We asked them to be dominant, we asked them to embrace the conditions, embrace the physicality of going and I think we did that and more. "It's hard for me to remember a performance away from home this dominant without getting a result." |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jan 31, 2022 10:46:47 GMT -5
Incredibly frustrating loss. We outplayed them in the midfield, but Berhalter describing it as "dominant" feels like a Baghdad Bob quote.
We move the ball well and very quickly until we get around the box, then we become too methodical and try to be too precise.
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Post by hotspur1 on Jan 31, 2022 10:57:57 GMT -5
Question for the group. How truthful is this statement and what would you suggest we do to resolve this issue. Keeping in mind the WC will be on our shores in 4 short years... "We have a gifted team with great young men, but Gregg Berhalter is tactically incompetent. It’s the result that reflects the gap in coaching" IMO that is 100% accurate. Just look at the talent we now have. So many are playing and contributing in top leagues internationally. It’s criminal what we are doing to them from a coaching perspective. The fact that we appeared to outplay and outwork Canada should be attributed to the individual talent level. But damn did we look awful doing it. We will never get an overhaul of US Soccer and approach but let’s go out and find one or two great tacticians and bring them in. Not sure who this is but I know it’s not Berhalter. |
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Post by olderthandirt on Jan 31, 2022 16:09:00 GMT -5
IMO that is 100% accurate. Just look at the talent we now have. So many are playing and contributing in top leagues internationally. It’s criminal what we are doing to them from a coaching perspective. The fact that we appeared to outplay and outwork Canada should be attributed to the individual talent level. But damn did we look awful doing it.
We will never get an overhaul of US Soccer and approach but let’s go out and find one or two great tacticians and bring them in. Not sure who this is but I know it’s not Berhalter.
I partially disagree. Although many of the players we now have are playing in top leagues, none are really starring for their teams. At best, they are complimentary players. Now there is nothing wrong with being a complimentary player in the EPL or other top European leagues. It’s just that when you try to put together a US National team out complimentary players, you don’t have any leaders stepping up. Nobody steps up and takes responsibility, and the US ends up with games like the one against Canada.
The fault for assembling a team with no natural leaders sits entirely with the coach.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jan 31, 2022 16:46:48 GMT -5
I partially disagree. Although many of the players we now have are playing in top leagues, none are really starring for their teams. At best, they are complimentary players. Now there is nothing wrong with being a complimentary player in the EPL or other top European leagues. It’s just that when you try to put together a US National team out complimentary players, you don’t have any leaders stepping up. Nobody steps up and takes responsibility, and the US ends up with games like the one against Canada. The fault for assembling a team with no natural leaders sits entirely with the coach. True, these guys playing in Europe may not be stars for their teams, but do they need to be to beat Canada? I think your point is better if we're talking about how we fare against top teams in the world, where we should manage our expectations. But against Canada, ranked #40 in FIFA? (We're #11.) It feels like John Herdman (Canada's manager) is simply getting way more out of his talent than either Berhalter or Tata Martino are at the moment. |
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Post by rifle on Jan 31, 2022 18:39:03 GMT -5
I’ve watched a little South American national team soccer and it’s been a poop show too. Lots of hacking and tactical fouls, stalling, diving, time wasting. Makes me wonder why MLS (and AU in particular) are so laser focused on South Americans at the expense of domestic players.
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Post by rifle on Jan 31, 2022 19:27:27 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Jan 31, 2022 19:41:38 GMT -5
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Post by footyfan on Jan 31, 2022 20:14:00 GMT -5
The only thing he's leaving out is the creation of non-elite leagues, like SCCL. But he also likely knows that there are some valid grievances with state associations, the answers to which are not more and more leagues, but fixing state associations by changing governance and/or voting out those who govern poorly. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jan 31, 2022 22:06:49 GMT -5
I partially disagree. Although many of the players we now have are playing in top leagues, none are really starring for their teams. At best, they are complimentary players. Now there is nothing wrong with being a complimentary player in the EPL or other top European leagues. It’s just that when you try to put together a US National team out complimentary players, you don’t have any leaders stepping up. Nobody steps up and takes responsibility, and the US ends up with games like the one against Canada. The fault for assembling a team with no natural leaders sits entirely with the coach. True, these guys playing in Europe may not be stars for their teams, but do they need to be to beat Canada? I think your point is better if we're talking about how we fare against top teams in the world, where we should manage our expectations. But against Canada, ranked #40 in FIFA? (We're #11.) It feels like John Herdman (Canada's manager) is simply getting way more out of his talent than either Berhalter or Tata Martino are at the moment. Follow-up on this thought - this backs up what I was saying: |
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Post by footyfan on Feb 1, 2022 10:12:25 GMT -5
True, these guys playing in Europe may not be stars for their teams, but do they need to be to beat Canada? I think your point is better if we're talking about how we fare against top teams in the world, where we should manage our expectations. But against Canada, ranked #40 in FIFA? (We're #11.) It feels like John Herdman (Canada's manager) is simply getting way more out of his talent than either Berhalter or Tata Martino are at the moment. Follow-up on this thought - this backs up what I was saying: Not for nothing, I believe Canada's lower FIFA ranking has made it harder to get visas to play in Europe. Also, for those blaming our young players/inexperience for USMNT woes, the starting lineup in the 2017 WCQ Game v T&T was ~27. Then, as now, you have MLS coaches leading the failure. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 1, 2022 17:49:36 GMT -5
interesting on goal 1 --- I didn't notice this until you see it here -- no issue with going long, but you have to be compact than to deal with it.
hopefully Robinson has a better game tomorrow night, or US is in trouble in the freezing cold.
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