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Post by manutott on Mar 18, 2022 11:57:02 GMT -5
Staying on the Academy topic, how do clubs such as Inter Atlanta, Rush Union and TYSA compare to these five programs?
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Post by soccerdad30303 on Mar 18, 2022 14:02:03 GMT -5
I definitely think Inter and TYSA are building good to great academy programs. Inter teaches same systems as Tophat just hard to keep talent after academy but it is changing.
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Post by coffee on Mar 18, 2022 14:56:11 GMT -5
If your kid is a goalkeeper they will be asked to guest play for different teams, ages, leagues, and even locations for the same club. That has been the case for my daughter, and it has given us a chance to see how things are run at the club’s different locations.
In our experience with two of the multi-site mega clubs player development is better by a material amount at the HQ (main) location over their branch locations. The HQ location has a critical-mass of resources ($$) that are available for things like improved coaching talent; field number and quality; number of available teams to scrimmage against; and direct oversight by the Club Director (no pun intended). Further, the opportunities for being noticed by higher level coaches to climb up the league pyramid are greater at a club’s HQ location. If we had to choose between opportunities at two big clubs, and one of the opportunities is at a branch location, that by itself would not be the only deciding factor, but it would weigh heavily on our minds.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 19, 2022 0:08:06 GMT -5
Staying on the Academy topic, how do clubs such as Inter Atlanta, Rush Union and TYSA compare to these five programs? Is TYSA still around? Thought they got swallowed up and lost like DDY. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Mar 19, 2022 5:50:04 GMT -5
Staying on the Academy topic, how do clubs such as Inter Atlanta, Rush Union and TYSA compare to these five programs? Is TYSA still around? Thought they got swallowed up and lost like DDY. Yes they're still around. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 19, 2022 9:39:46 GMT -5
Wait if Academy development at TH is “king” why do most players come to TH AFTER the academy years from other club and bump players who are TH originals? Not many older teams are filled with girls who’s early development came from TH… It depends a lot on the age group. 05 Gold is majority kids who have been there since U12 or earlier. Besides my comment was made more toward the consistency of the approach across all locations and all levels. If you take a third team player and put her in the top team she at least knows how that team intends to play. And even when the teams are designated they still train teams together a lot and interchange players between locations and levels. Marietta, Buckhead and Milton all approach the game the same. They are committed to moving players up and down as needed. They also spend a lot of time getting the kids comfortable with the ball at their feet. |
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Post by oldboy on Mar 19, 2022 17:56:49 GMT -5
Academy development Tophat is king. This hasn’t been true for some time, if it ever was. Tophat is one of several choices in the city where your player will probably be fine. But the idea that Tophat is some sort of unmatched development mecca is outdated at best. |
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Post by newguy on Mar 19, 2022 18:28:51 GMT -5
Wait if Academy development at TH is “king” why do most players come to TH AFTER the academy years from other club and bump players who are TH originals? Not many older teams are filled with girls who’s early development came from TH… It depends a lot on the age group. 05 Gold is majority kids who have been there since U12 or earlier. Besides my comment was made more toward the consistency of the approach across all locations and all levels. If you take a third team player and put her in the top team she at least knows how that team intends to play. And even when the teams are designated they still train teams together a lot and interchange players between locations and levels. Marietta, Buckhead and Milton all approach the game the same. They are committed to moving players up and down as needed. They also spend a lot of time getting the kids comfortable with the ball at their feet. Is the Buckhead branch taken seriously on the girls or boys side within the organization? |
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 19, 2022 20:26:02 GMT -5
It depends a lot on the age group. 05 Gold is majority kids who have been there since U12 or earlier. Besides my comment was made more toward the consistency of the approach across all locations and all levels. If you take a third team player and put her in the top team she at least knows how that team intends to play. And even when the teams are designated they still train teams together a lot and interchange players between locations and levels. Marietta, Buckhead and Milton all approach the game the same. They are committed to moving players up and down as needed. They also spend a lot of time getting the kids comfortable with the ball at their feet. Is the Buckhead branch taken seriously on the girls or boys side within the organization? Buckhead location is girls only but is the mothership for girls |
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Post by soccerdad30303 on Mar 19, 2022 20:34:28 GMT -5
Academy development Tophat is king. This hasn’t been true for some time, if it ever was. Tophat is one of several choices in the city where your player will probably be fine. But the idea that Tophat is some sort of unmatched development mecca is outdated at best. How? Examples? I have not seen evidence. |
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Post by newguy on Mar 19, 2022 20:48:43 GMT -5
Is the Buckhead branch taken seriously on the girls or boys side within the organization? Buckhead location is girls only but is the mothership for girls Thanks. We played boys academy games at AIS a few years ago so wasn’t sure. |
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Post by BubbleDad on Mar 19, 2022 23:34:12 GMT -5
Wait if Academy development at TH is “king” why do most players come to TH AFTER the academy years from other club and bump players who are TH originals? Not many older teams are filled with girls who’s early development came from TH… It depends a lot on the age group. 05 Gold is majority kids who have been there since U12 or earlier. Besides my comment was made more toward the consistency of the approach across all locations and all levels. If you take a third team player and put her in the top team she at least knows how that team intends to play. And even when the teams are designated they still train teams together a lot and interchange players between locations and levels. Marietta, Buckhead and Milton all approach the game the same. They are committed to moving players up and down as needed. They also spend a lot of time getting the kids comfortable with the ball at their feet. It depends on the age group. 06s have VERY LITTLE movement while I've seen a lot of fluidity in the 07 age group. Tophat LOVES to look elsewhere |
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Post by soccertalk on Mar 20, 2022 11:07:37 GMT -5
As far as specific age groups, will be interesting to see what the “try out” season brings especially for the 09 & 08 at TopHat. The 08 gold team is by far the strongest team for their age of all the TH gold teams. They were the only TH team to make the finals of Champions League last week. The 09 gold has struggled all year. If TH doesn’t keep the 08 team together, can’t be looking good for TH In the future and trying to sell GA league as an equal to ECNL without stellar teams to back it up.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 20, 2022 12:23:08 GMT -5
As far as specific age groups, will be interesting to see what the “try out” season brings especially for the 09 & 08 at TopHat. The 08 gold team is by far the strongest team for their age of all the TH gold teams. They were the only TH team to make the finals of Champions League last week. The 09 gold has struggled all year. If TH doesn’t keep the 08 team together, can’t be looking good for TH In the future and trying to sell GA league as an equal to ECNL without stellar teams to back it up. 08 is very strong. 09 gold vs navy game was very interesting. Could be that a few players were placed on the wrong team. One of the coaches told me they thought Navy teams is better than Gold. The GA vs ECNL has hurt several Tophat age groups. ECNL is a deeper league. I think that exposure to college coaches is pretty equivalent and same for national team exposure. Coaches are looking at both. Personally I would not change clubs due to league. I would just make decisions based on the coach and team quality. There is enough competition in GA to give you quality games especially since they added the Champions League events. |
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Post by 04gparent on Mar 20, 2022 19:28:45 GMT -5
As far as specific age groups, will be interesting to see what the “try out” season brings especially for the 09 & 08 at TopHat. The 08 gold team is by far the strongest team for their age of all the TH gold teams. They were the only TH team to make the finals of Champions League last week. The 09 gold has struggled all year. If TH doesn’t keep the 08 team together, can’t be looking good for TH In the future and trying to sell GA league as an equal to ECNL without stellar teams to back it up. Welcome to the forum... Not sure how long you've been attention or if you care to look at old content. This discussion of exposure in GA was settled long ago. The argument of "you wont get exposure or college looks in GA" has been settled. The exposure is there. Now girls and families and trully just look at club fit and development as the main factor. Yes the TH 04 and 07 teams took hits as people searched for this exposure BEFORE GA was fully functional. No one on the forum wants to drudge up the GA vs ECNL debate. Its pointless. However the top tier of both leagues are very strong, hince the create of the Champions league in GA to bring the strongest teams together over 2 events to allow the college coaches to see good vs good. Will the 08 team stay together? Who knows... Maybe you're a parent who wants to see them break apart. Typically TH teams do have some churn as most top top teams do. If someone looks elsewhere it wont be because of exposure... The parents are seeing Top colleges with their own eyes at showcases and such... |
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