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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 21, 2022 13:15:11 GMT -5
AU set to sign chivas forward ronaldo cisneros on loan - www.dirtysouthsoccer.com/2022/3/20/22987664/report-atlanta-united-set-to-sign-chivas-forward-ronaldo-cisneros-on-loanI'm not savy when it comes to international players so I have no comment on his abilities. But this does seem to put Conway in a tough spot. I think to have a roster spot for him, somebody has to be moved/loaned out. conway is probably that player. Just guessing. Wolff got called into u20 national team. I can't disagree more with this title by Longshore -- Great reward for a strong start to 2022. He's played more minutes for sure, I can't imagine he gets another start after Saturday's game. Or I'm just biased and blind...Imagine if Carleton was given this opportunity. I did flip on the San Diego Loyals game Saturday night, Carleton wasn't on the roster for the game. Super great for him for sure I believe Caleb Wiley is already on the squad, which is made up of those born in 2003, 2004 and a few 05s. |
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Post by onekickpop on Mar 21, 2022 16:24:07 GMT -5
What is the general consensus with these signings? Is the focus solely on players who can be sold to Europe vs winning a Cup? We defend in this league. Not sure many of these guys are accustomed to strong defenders. ATL just does not look like the strong team it used to be but maybe it just takes time to rebuild. Nice comeback win this weekend but they seem out of sync and in some cases out of conditioning…
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Post by rifle on Mar 21, 2022 19:09:24 GMT -5
What is the general consensus with these signings? Is the focus solely on players who can be sold to Europe vs winning a Cup? We defend in this league. Not sure many of these guys are accustomed to strong defenders. ATL just does not look like the strong team it used to be but maybe it just takes time to rebuild. Nice comeback win this weekend but they seem out of sync and in some cases out of conditioning… 😳 |
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Post by futbol2005 on Mar 21, 2022 19:12:00 GMT -5
What is the general consensus with these signings? Is the focus solely on players who can be sold to Europe vs winning a Cup? We defend in this league. Not sure many of these guys are accustomed to strong defenders. ATL just does not look like the strong team it used to be but maybe it just takes time to rebuild. Nice comeback win this weekend but they seem out of sync and in some cases out of conditioning… 😳 Defending in the MLS? You are joking, right? |
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Post by rifle on Mar 21, 2022 19:57:41 GMT -5
What is the general consensus with these signings? Is the focus solely on players who can be sold to Europe vs winning a Cup? We defend in this league. Not sure many of these guys are accustomed to strong defenders. ATL just does not look like the strong team it used to be but maybe it just takes time to rebuild. Nice comeback win this weekend but they seem out of sync and in some cases out of conditioning… The league is structured for parity. Meaning mediocrity. Average. Oh yeah and as a carrot for “fans” to believe their team could win a championship any year. Teams that want to spend and win really can’t. Because mediocrity. AU has made it know they sign guys in hopes of hitting a financial half court shot. Spent big on some and made money. Spent big on some and may still make money. Spent nearly nothing on the rest of the roster and that’s why it’s mediocrity. Watch Spain or England back to back with MLS and tell me MLS defends. It’s a cool novelty, a fun event in town and that’s it. |
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Post by onekickpop on Mar 21, 2022 19:59:35 GMT -5
Maybe rephrasing it tk say we are more physical? Villalba, Barco, Pity, etc had limited success against more
Physical players.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 23, 2022 15:25:17 GMT -5
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 23, 2022 16:36:18 GMT -5
and then on Jan 1st, 2023 will be loaned to the Atlanta United 2s... |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 23, 2022 17:07:13 GMT -5
and then on Jan 1st, 2023 will be loaned to the Atlanta United 2s... Poor Efrain... |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Mar 23, 2022 20:26:20 GMT -5
Sorry but I dont have faith in "trust the process"
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 23, 2022 20:40:35 GMT -5
Sorry but I dont have faith in "trust the process" Didn’t Jackson Conway pass on UVA for the 2s? I’m assuming he had financial $$ being offered at UVA? 2s lost again tonight to the Rowdies 3-0. They haven’t scored a goal yet. I couldn’t fathom being a young player trying to make it and then having to play with some of the kids their throwing out there. Soccer is not the sport where you can hide inferior players. There are players I’ve watched now on the first team and the 2s, that might touch the ball 5 times the entire game. I don’t get how anyone can watch film and rate them highly. The 2s are gonna have to move to that fake mls next pro league. |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Mar 23, 2022 20:57:07 GMT -5
Yeah not sure on Conway's situation. I do know Uni's are NOT handing out massive $$ for scholarships.
AU needs to invest in everyone equally before they become a homegrown powerhouse. They pick 3-5 players at younger ages and say "these are our guys", different resources, opportunities, and even some cases totally different set of rules. (in my opinion)
Yeah the 2's dont need to be in Champion's for sure. Most of the players with be in the new "fake league" next year.
Leadership is a big thing. Seems to be at a loss. Missing an identity.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 23, 2022 21:09:41 GMT -5
Yeah not sure on Conway's situation. I do know Uni's are NOT handing out massive $$ for scholarships. AU needs to invest in everyone equally before they become a homegrown powerhouse. They pick 3-5 players at younger ages and say "these are our guys", different resources, opportunities, and even some cases totally different set of rules. (in my opinion) Yeah the 2's dont need to be in Champion's for sure. Most of the players with be in the new "fake league" next year. Leadership is a big thing. Seems to be at a loss. Missing an identity. The lack of investment in every player drives me crazy. I remember reading how TA bragged about he coached the top 3-5 kids himself during the week…. What about the other 20 players in the age group. I get it a few kids might be phenoms. Haven’t seen one in awhile. Last phenom I saw was Carleton. I’d make a point to try to make my 18th player the top player by the time he left the academy. That should be the goal. You never know!!! The problem is exactly like you said. The top kids are chosen at relatively young ages - the rest seem are excess baggage. |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Mar 23, 2022 21:36:49 GMT -5
Yeah not sure on Conway's situation. I do know Uni's are NOT handing out massive $$ for scholarships. AU needs to invest in everyone equally before they become a homegrown powerhouse. They pick 3-5 players at younger ages and say "these are our guys", different resources, opportunities, and even some cases totally different set of rules. (in my opinion) Yeah the 2's dont need to be in Champion's for sure. Most of the players with be in the new "fake league" next year. Leadership is a big thing. Seems to be at a loss. Missing an identity. The lack of investment in every player drives me crazy. I remember reading how TA bragged about he coached the top 3-5 kids himself during the week…. What about the other 20 players in the age group. I get it a few kids might be phenoms. Haven’t seen one in awhile. Last phenom I saw was Carleton. I’d make a point to try to make my 18th player the top player by the time he left the academy. That should be the goal. You never know!!! The problem is exactly like you said. The top kids are chosen at relatively young ages - the rest seem are excess baggage. Yeah its pretty bad. The culture is none existent. The younger age groups yes but as they get older, if you keep feeding the same BS story and looking the other way, the player will catch on and see right through it. I just think its a lack of passion for everyone's success and not just a select few. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 23, 2022 21:50:39 GMT -5
It’s crazy - back in the day I saved a listed of all the da players at each local club. This was from AUs first academy season. It’s crazy looking back at some of the rosters. One of the most talented kids they ever had was the the kid from Tenn - micah shewit worton Kid litteraly was a man amongst boys and had a crazy story www.soccerwire.com/news/micah-shewit-worton-overcomes-tragic-childhood-to-star-for-nashville-fc-u-13s/Anyone know where he is now? I remember he joined Cincinnati’s FC academy the last few years of DA. I always heard when Richard Money left everything changed dramatically. |
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Post by rifle on Mar 24, 2022 5:10:43 GMT -5
It’s crazy - back in the day I saved a listed of all the da players at each local club. This was from AUs first academy season. It’s crazy looking back at some of the rosters. One of the most talented kids they ever had was the the kid from Tenn - micah shewit worton Kid litteraly was a man amongst boys and had a crazy story www.soccerwire.com/news/micah-shewit-worton-overcomes-tragic-childhood-to-star-for-nashville-fc-u-13s/Anyone know where he is now? I remember he joined Cincinnati’s FC academy the last few years of DA. I always heard when Richard Money left everything changed dramatically. Didn’t Richard Money leave before the first season ended? |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 24, 2022 5:33:33 GMT -5
Ye he left like 2 to 3 months into the fall. He departed very early for sure
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Post by soccergator on Mar 25, 2022 11:33:44 GMT -5
The lack of investment in every player drives me crazy. I remember reading how TA bragged about he coached the top 3-5 kids himself during the week…. What about the other 20 players in the age group. I get it a few kids might be phenoms. Haven’t seen one in awhile. Last phenom I saw was Carleton. I’d make a point to try to make my 18th player the top player by the time he left the academy. That should be the goal. You never know!!! The problem is exactly like you said. The top kids are chosen at relatively young ages - the rest seem are excess baggage. Yeah its pretty bad. The culture is none existent. The younger age groups yes but as they get older, if you keep feeding the same BS story and looking the other way, the player will catch on and see right through it. I just think its a lack of passion for everyone's success and not just a select few. Your comments made me think of this video posted from a recent speech from the gators new football coach Billy Napier: I get it, I'm comparing football to soccer, college to the academies etc -- but for many MLS academies are the "college development" phase of their career. "I think each individual player has an opportunity every day..." |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 26, 2022 9:50:17 GMT -5
It’s crazy - back in the day I saved a listed of all the da players at each local club. This was from AUs first academy season. It’s crazy looking back at some of the rosters. One of the most talented kids they ever had was the the kid from Tenn - micah shewit worton Kid litteraly was a man amongst boys and had a crazy story www.soccerwire.com/news/micah-shewit-worton-overcomes-tragic-childhood-to-star-for-nashville-fc-u-13s/Anyone know where he is now? I remember he joined Cincinnati’s FC academy the last few years of DA. I always heard when Richard Money left everything changed dramatically. Richard Money spent about 6 months with AU. He began with the first set of invite tryouts in April/May and left in November of the same year. It was always a temporary gig as TA was the hand picked person set to run the Academy. He just needed to get the right certifications and have someone with experience proctor him. Shewit was a phenomenal player. He did not like where AU wanted him to play so his camp made a decision to return to I believe TN. Sad thing is as good a player as he was, you don't hear much about him now. In 2020 he was on his way to join the DA team for FC Cincinnati but not sure where he ended up after that. We do tend to anoint "stars" early on, however, if you are still at AU, you have every chance to show what you can do. I still hold on to the belief that no coach will ignore a good player for one with less talent or who isn't showing well. In an academy, you go through a myriad of emotions, puberty, injuries, opportunities, coaches, teammates coupled with growing up with a set of expectations from the rest of the world around you. Let's stop and think, these lads are 10, 11.... 18. I know many that have flamed out and others who have taken a hold of their opportunity and gone far with it, whether it be as a pro, a college player and others who have chosen to walk away from soccer all together. The video of the Gator coach is spot on, less we forget, you are playing CFB at one of the top schools in the toughest conference in the nation... Ditto for AU |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 28, 2022 9:59:36 GMT -5
The 2s won, the 2s won, the 2s won!!!
Battery I believe were up 1-0 at half, and a battery defender picked up a 2nd yellow right before halftime.
2nd half was all AU2 from the twitter feed, and conway got him a hatty - 4-1 final.
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Post by cantgetright on Mar 28, 2022 19:54:00 GMT -5
As the song goes, I'm half the man I used to be. He played for TN. My son's team played them, he was mediocre at best, guess the years caught up to him.
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Post by thisonedude on Mar 30, 2022 9:03:04 GMT -5
It’s crazy - back in the day I saved a listed of all the da players at each local club. This was from AUs first academy season. It’s crazy looking back at some of the rosters. One of the most talented kids they ever had was the the kid from Tenn - micah shewit worton Kid litteraly was a man amongst boys and had a crazy story www.soccerwire.com/news/micah-shewit-worton-overcomes-tragic-childhood-to-star-for-nashville-fc-u-13s/Anyone know where he is now? I remember he joined Cincinnati’s FC academy the last few years of DA. I always heard when Richard Money left everything changed dramatically. I'd be interested in knowing how many from that original list of local DA-rostered players when DA expanded to U12 (AU's first season) signed with colleges for fall of 2022. Does your list include that information? |
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