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Post by crazzzy4soccer on May 15, 2022 10:38:17 GMT -5
Has anyone else heard that AFU is possibly losing ECNL if they can’t get their club competitive next season? I heard their 08 team might be competitive next year but would that be enough to save the club? Doubt 1 team would be enough?
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Post by messindreams on May 15, 2022 11:06:40 GMT -5
Has anyone else heard that AFU is possibly losing ECNL if they can’t get their club competitive next season? I heard their 08 team might be competitive next year but would that be enough to save the club? Doubt 1 team would be enough? Did you hear from a credible source? Hard to believe. |
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 15, 2022 11:09:28 GMT -5
:starts eating popcorn:
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Post by greenmonkey on May 15, 2022 11:29:30 GMT -5
Ummm crazzzzzzy for soccer … That logic is absolutely crazy LOL
and is exactly why youth soccer sucks.
Logic = teams aren’t competitive or “elite” enough = not winning enough games
Solution= create more leagues so more teams are more competitive = I mean so more teams win more games.
Development does not equal winning games
Competitive does not equal winning games
I understand what people are trying to say is no one benefits from 10-0 games on either side of that score but without a deep dive on every age group boys and girls ..: is AFU losing every game 10-0
OK then
Can a club move each player to each players own next level? If yes then THAT is player development?
What goes on day to day on and off the training field matters more
HOW players play the game matters more
Trust me my kid has lost more games than won in 10 years of playing soccer so should they just quit playing because they are not “competitive enough”
What’s that Babe Ruth statistic
Ruth hit 714 home runs and struck out 1,330 times.
Struck out twice as much as he hit home runs
Stick him back in AAA Ball
Rant over
LOL
*** flips the popcorn bowl off the table and storms away***
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Post by messindreams on May 15, 2022 11:33:12 GMT -5
Lol! It is that time of the year, rumors are rampant and popcorn is in high demand  |
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Post by crazzzy4soccer on May 15, 2022 11:58:03 GMT -5
I don’t know the how’s or why’s. I agree totally that soccer is a mess with leagues and club soccer is a nightmare. I think the idea is to cut down the number of ECNL teams in the ATL market since AFU is consistantly the one lagging in all age groups. Who knows? That’s what makes this forum great- debunking rumors? But I did here this from
Someone pretty high up…that it’s a possibility at least.
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Post by diamondmid on May 15, 2022 12:05:28 GMT -5
I don’t know the how’s or why’s. I agree totally that soccer is a mess with leagues and club soccer is a nightmare. I think the idea is to cut down the number of ECNL teams in the ATL market since AFU is consistantly the one lagging in all age groups. Who knows? That’s what makes this forum great- debunking rumors? But I did here this from Someone pretty high up…that it’s a possibility at least. Rumor mills send ppl scurrying... if heard from someone high up, why not relay something more concrete? Forum typically used initials etc. As an addition to the rumor, it's been said that Concorde will lose the 2nd ECNL team since. This was said by a director. And the club leaders don't seem to pay any attention to those teams either. Of those rumors, I may place more stock in a club losing a second spot than one losing it's only spot - but who knows at this point. |
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Post by soccerkaren on May 15, 2022 12:15:35 GMT -5
I don’t know the how’s or why’s. I agree totally that soccer is a mess with leagues and club soccer is a nightmare. I think the idea is to cut down the number of ECNL teams in the ATL market since AFU is consistantly the one lagging in all age groups. Who knows? That’s what makes this forum great- debunking rumors? But I did here this from Someone pretty high up…that it’s a possibility at least. I heard the same about AFU for the past two years and have heard it more these past couple months. I also heard that SSA might lose GA due to the same reasons. Maybe that’s why they pressured parents so much? |
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Post by crazzzy4soccer on May 15, 2022 12:34:33 GMT -5
More concrete? I told you the reasons why and what they’d need to do to keep it from happening. What else would you want me to provide. I don’t have a kid at AFU. But have I got so many “elite” teams Is a lot, are there enough truly “elite” players to fill all these teams. I don’t know but I’d think that’s what this about partly about but again soccer has turned into more about the $ then the kids so who knows.
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Post by unitedwestand on May 15, 2022 12:36:06 GMT -5
Has anyone else heard that AFU is possibly losing ECNL if they can’t get their club competitive next season? I heard their 08 team might be competitive next year but would that be enough to save the club? Doubt 1 team would be enough? I've heard the same thing. The problem is that ECNL is the most sought after league for youth soccer in America. They don't allow just any club to join and it's about the entirety of the club not just one age group or one gender. With that being said AFU is struggling on the boys and girls side in virtually every age group. The board is constantly changing over and coaches are consistently quiting mid season. This spells out total dysfunction. At least it appears that way and I'm sure ECNL has some concerns. Guess we will have to wait and see but if I had to bet I'd bet that they won't have ECNL in two years. |
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Post by messindreams on May 15, 2022 12:56:02 GMT -5
Has anyone else heard that AFU is possibly losing ECNL if they can’t get their club competitive next season? I heard their 08 team might be competitive next year but would that be enough to save the club? Doubt 1 team would be enough? I've heard the same thing. The problem is that ECNL is the most sought after league for youth soccer in America. They don't allow just any club to join and it's about the entirety of the club not just one age group or one gender. With that being said AFU is struggling on the boys and girls side in virtually every age group. The board is constantly changing over and coaches are consistently quiting mid season. This spells out total dysfunction. At least it appears that way and I'm sure ECNL has some concerns. Guess we will have to wait and see but if I had to bet I'd bet that they won't have ECNL in two years. Disclaimer - I have no kids at AFU. AFU elects their board, only club that elects it’s board every two years. So this concern about board constantly changing is silly. AFU is also the only club around Atlanta that has full time staff dedicated to college recruitment. Challenge that AFU has is that it cannot retain its best players as it is human to look for greener pastures. They have some great coaches… check their coaching roster. |
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Post by soccerkaren on May 15, 2022 13:22:39 GMT -5
I've heard the same thing. The problem is that ECNL is the most sought after league for youth soccer in America. They don't allow just any club to join and it's about the entirety of the club not just one age group or one gender. With that being said AFU is struggling on the boys and girls side in virtually every age group. The board is constantly changing over and coaches are consistently quiting mid season. This spells out total dysfunction. At least it appears that way and I'm sure ECNL has some concerns. Guess we will have to wait and see but if I had to bet I'd bet that they won't have ECNL in two years. Disclaimer - I have no kids at AFU. AFU elects their board, only club that elects it’s board every two years. So this concern about board constantly changing is silly. AFU is also the only club around Atlanta that has full time staff dedicated to college recruitment. Challenge that AFU has is that it cannot retain its best players as it is human to look for greener pastures. They have some great coaches… check their coaching roster. Not sure I would label their coaches as great… They are about as average or below average as their teams and results even though results aren’t most important as someone said above. |
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Post by Oceanready on May 15, 2022 13:23:15 GMT -5
Has anyone else heard that AFU is possibly losing ECNL if they can’t get their club competitive next season? I heard their 08 team might be competitive next year but would that be enough to save the club? Doubt 1 team would be enough? I hope it isn’t true, but didn’t Orlando lose ECNL on the boys side or is that a rumor also? |
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Post by Brinker on May 15, 2022 13:26:25 GMT -5
Has anyone else heard that AFU is possibly losing ECNL if they can’t get their club competitive next season? I heard their 08 team might be competitive next year but would that be enough to save the club? Doubt 1 team would be enough? Before doing that, why not take Concorde’s second ECNL team away. No good reason why that club should have 2 ECNL teams, I don’t care what their legacy with that league is, they can’t field 2 competitive teams. |
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Post by rudy on May 15, 2022 13:30:39 GMT -5
Kid left AFU for reasons posted by others. Went to another Big 5 club and had great experience there playing at the very top of ECNL at the national level.
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Post by dadofthree on May 15, 2022 13:36:00 GMT -5
This rumor has come up for at least the last few years that I can remember. Seems to come out during tryout season probably to just try and get folks to not go there.
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Post by GeorgiaSoccerMom on May 15, 2022 13:38:14 GMT -5
Has anyone else heard that AFU is possibly losing ECNL if they can’t get their club competitive next season? I heard their 08 team might be competitive next year but would that be enough to save the club? Doubt 1 team would be enough? Did you hear from a credible source? Hard to believe. The coach they brought in for 08 girls is also doing 09 girls. He is really, really good - so is his daughter. Also heard many of the girls are following him from GSA (both ECNL & RL) and some who left GSA that went to Tophat are following him if he gives them a spot. IMO the original girls at AFU both 09 & 08 might find themselves not getting offered. Hope they have other options of AFU doesn’t pan out for them. So that coach might be enough to at least be reconsidered. |
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Post by bogan on May 15, 2022 13:42:40 GMT -5
Has anyone else heard that AFU is possibly losing ECNL if they can’t get their club competitive next season? I heard their 08 team might be competitive next year but would that be enough to save the club? Doubt 1 team would be enough? I hope it isn’t true, but didn’t Orlando lose ECNL on the boys side or is that a rumor also? Not sure…but my son’s team is playing them (Orlando) in a tournament and they are labeled ECNL. |
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Post by messindreams on May 15, 2022 13:50:03 GMT -5
Did you hear from a credible source? Hard to believe. The coach they brought in for 08 girls is also doing 09 girls. He is really, really good - so is his daughter. Also heard many of the girls are following him from GSA (both ECNL & RL) and some who left GSA that went to Tophat are following him if he gives them a spot. IMO the original girls at AFU both 09 & 08 might find themselves not getting offered. Hope they have other options of AFU doesn’t pan out for them. So that coach might be enough to at least be reconsidered. SG’s teams play beautiful soccer and less direct like other athletic GSA teams. They play direct as needed but well coached. What I really liked about him was that he complimented opposing team kids as well at a tournament and game planned for them. Very classy and strategic. AFU is lucky to have him. Just my two cents based on observations from sideline, my kids never played for him. |
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Post by atlsoccer123 on May 15, 2022 14:11:41 GMT -5
Has anyone else heard that AFU is possibly losing ECNL if they can’t get their club competitive next season? I heard their 08 team might be competitive next year but would that be enough to save the club? Doubt 1 team would be enough? Before doing that, why not take Concorde’s second ECNL team away. No good reason why that club should have 2 ECNL teams, I don’t care what their legacy with that league is, they can’t field 2 competitive teams. True. And then they play each other for league games. Makes no sense. |
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Post by mightydawg on May 15, 2022 17:24:40 GMT -5
Has any club ever lost ECNL except as it relates to the battle between ECNL and DA?
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Post by diamondmid on May 15, 2022 17:28:28 GMT -5
Kid left AFU for reasons posted by others. Went to another Big 5 club and had great experience there playing at the very top of ECNL at the national level. Winning is attractive... there are several kids that came up through AFU that are now at top ECNL clubs - so they must have done something right for those players to have been at the level to get in with those other teams. Same with Concorde. You look at NASA - how many former Concorde players on that team? And same with UFA... not sure about GSA. Imagine the talent pool Concorde would have for two teams had those players not left and I would also imagine AFU would be in a different boat had they retained players. |
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Post by diamondmid on May 15, 2022 17:32:16 GMT -5
I would add - there will be movement this year as every year. Maybe the most locked up team would be NASA. Based on just the IDs - I've seen lots of Concorde players looking around but not a lot of other Big 5 players at Concorde. I guess we will see how things shake up pretty soon.
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Post by Brinker on May 15, 2022 18:57:19 GMT -5
I would add - there will be movement this year as every year. Maybe the most locked up team would be NASA. Based on just the IDs - I've seen lots of Concorde players looking around but not a lot of other Big 5 players at Concorde. I guess we will see how things shake up pretty soon. Saw some impressive players at the NASA ECNL boys ID event. May be difficult to make those teams since they are 1st or 2nd in every age group, but there is some good talent out there. |
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Post by soccermaxx72 on May 15, 2022 19:50:22 GMT -5
Has anyone else heard that AFU is possibly losing ECNL if they can’t get their club competitive next season? I heard their 08 team might be competitive next year but would that be enough to save the club? Doubt 1 team would be enough? That is why Atlanta Fire joined NL 64, to get their foot in the door with usys. They know this is their last year in ECNL on the girls. |
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Post by nottedlasso on May 15, 2022 20:03:13 GMT -5
I don’t know the how’s or why’s. I agree totally that soccer is a mess with leagues and club soccer is a nightmare. I think the idea is to cut down the number of ECNL teams in the ATL market since AFU is consistantly the one lagging in all age groups. Who knows? That’s what makes this forum great- debunking rumors? But I did here this from Someone pretty high up…that it’s a possibility at least. This is a total lie. There is ZERO truth to this rumor. AFU will remain in ECNL. This is just a rumor started by a local club and some parents who want to continue to steal players. You do realize that Garth is on the ECNL board correct? |
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Post by nottedlasso on May 15, 2022 20:05:47 GMT -5
Has anyone else heard that AFU is possibly losing ECNL if they can’t get their club competitive next season? I heard their 08 team might be competitive next year but would that be enough to save the club? Doubt 1 team would be enough? That is why Atlanta Fire joined NL 64, to get their foot in the door with usys. They know this is their last year in ECNL on the girls. Another lie. This is not the reason AFU joined Elite 64. AFU South will benefit most from Elite 64. At least know the name of the new league. |
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Post by Keeper on May 15, 2022 20:33:30 GMT -5
Has anyone else heard that AFU is possibly losing ECNL if they can’t get their club competitive next season? I heard their 08 team might be competitive next year but would that be enough to save the club? Doubt 1 team would be enough? That is why Atlanta Fire joined NL 64, to get their foot in the door with usys. They know this is their last year in ECNL on the girls. Pretty sure AFU South got the NL 64 bid. Not North. |
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Post by kickinondaweekend on May 15, 2022 21:25:41 GMT -5
AFU North will actually have at least 1 Elite 64 Girls teams. The U16 third team will be an Elite 64 team that according to several parents that spoke directly with Mirza will be made up of players from the ECNL and ECNL-R teams.
As far as if AFU will actually lose ECNL, maybe not, at least not yet, but Garth won’t be the reason AFU would maintain ECNL status…you’re giving one man a lot of credit to be able to have that much pull…especially when the teams he manages as assistant DOC at AFU have struggled with being competitive in ECNL since his involvement in those roles. Almost every single age group on both the girls and boys sides ended up in the bottom third of their brackets and were out scored by an average of 3 to 1.
Unless AFU can start developing players(from the bottom team to the top team) and retain players and coaches, they won’t be able to improve their standings and ECNL will eventually remove AFU due to lack of competitiveness and development. Otherwise, it will be yet another example proving what we all have said at one point or another on this forum or on the sidelines….these organizations just want our money and don’t truly care about improving the player or the sport!
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Post by oldtrafford on May 15, 2022 22:12:47 GMT -5
afu tends to outkick their coverage for college scholarships on the boys side and girls (moreso on the girls from what i can tell). something to say for that. it’s funny these rumors only come out during tryout season. sure the club has issues. they all do. that’s youth soccer though
but ecnl provides a great opportunity for kids to get noticed for college. we should hope they keep it. exposure for more local kids is a good thing.
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