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Post by Strikeorkeep on May 25, 2022 11:41:09 GMT -5
I know this has been a topic over and over again but i feel like recruiting has changed the past few years with the extra eligibilityyear due to Covid as well as transfer portal.
Anyone guided their kid through these waters recently and have any advice they'd share?
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 25, 2022 13:14:32 GMT -5
yea, it's tough.
not to offer any insight, but wanted to add a 3rd item.
1) covid extra year of eligibility
2) transfer portal
3) increase in older international players
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Post by allthingsoccer on May 25, 2022 13:19:10 GMT -5
Its crazy. Only speaking to D1 boys
heard over 1000 in portal which is 3/4x
Plus ALOT of internationals in the mix
The extra year is causing rosters to be 30++
Very limited scholarship $$ (even more so) DO NOT EXPECT FULL RIDES those days are gone.
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 25, 2022 19:38:54 GMT -5
A great place to start is to understand NCAA and/or NAIA rules. Both have information on their websites. Due to Title IX, scholarship monies are limited. Coaches do look at grades. Academic scholarships do not cost them athletic money.
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Post by dadofthree on May 25, 2022 19:45:50 GMT -5
It is tougher but because of the portal and not as much money (players don't have as much incentive to continue playing) alot of programs are taking quite a few players because they are losing them as well. As an example I can think of a number of women's D1 programs that are having to bring in 10 to 12 players to just fill out the rosters and most of the new players are not through the portal. Also need to remember because of lack of money many players cant take advantage of the additional COVID year because they have to pay themselves for it. Just really need to still develop the relationship with the coaches and ask lots of questions. It is amazing what can be learned even from coaches who may not actually be recruiting your child.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 25, 2022 21:33:24 GMT -5
I know this has been a topic over and over again but i feel like recruiting has changed the past few years with the extra eligibilityyear due to Covid as well as transfer portal. Anyone guided their kid through these waters recently and have any advice they'd share? There are so many layers to this but here goes; If my math is correct, the extra year of eligibility will disappear after the 2023 class. That is because the freshman class of 2019-2020 is the last class that can take advantage of the 5th year. So when chatting with colleges, ask how many extra year athletes are on the team. The portal is a whole other can of worms. What a freshman is up against, is a seasoned and proven college player who Coaches know can produce given they have first hand experience playing D1/2/3/etc. versus a bright-eyed unproven freshman. Ask colleges about the depth they have at your kid's position. Some schools are struggling to find players for a particular position that they just use the portal till they are able to find a freshman that they can build and grow with. When it comes to monies for college, remember that a lot of colleges can stack funding. That means they can give you athletic money + scholastic money too. So an example would be going to UGA/KSU/GSU and getting the hope + athletic money which would generate an awesome package where you don't pay for anything. So keep those grades up! Golden Year!!! The summer before and during sophomore year attend one-day ID camps (imho overnite camps not worth it, unless you need your kids out of your hair). Start to fill out recruitment athletic profiles to show interest. Remember June 15th before your Junior year, you can start chatting with colleges legally. Here are some pointers that I hope help your kid kick off the recruitment process. Please feel free in reaching out if you have any questions I can answer or put them out on the forum. Lots of folks are just as or more knowledgeable... Good Luck!!! - Keep and maintain a high GPA - Make a list of schools, research them - Be realistic about your choice of schools - Create a YouTube channel to share videos - Keep videos lengths to 2-3 minutes of quality plays - Update and clean-up all your social media platforms - Create an email just for recruitmen(futsal.gawdess2022@...) - Collate videos during your sophomore year (first highlight reel, loading) - Attend an ID Camp where there is a panel of coaches to answer questions - Set realistic expectations for which colleges suit your skills and/or playing time - Let the kids drive this whole process, coaches are recruiting them, not you oh and Patience!, Patience!, Patience!... BTW: Did I mention please be PATIENT!!! |
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Post by dabe on May 25, 2022 23:04:04 GMT -5
I know this has been a topic over and over again but i feel like recruiting has changed the past few years with the extra eligibilityyear due to Covid as well as transfer portal. Anyone guided their kid through these waters recently and have any advice they'd share? There are so many layers to this but here goes; If my math is correct, the extra year of eligibility will disappear after the 2023 class. That is because the freshman class of 2019-2020 is the last class that can take advantage of the 5th year. So when chatting with colleges, ask how many extra year athletes are on the team. The portal is a whole other can of worms. What a freshman is up against, is a seasoned and proven college player who Coaches know can produce given they have first hand experience playing D1/2/3/etc. versus a bright-eyed unproven freshman. Ask colleges about the depth they have at your kid's position. Some schools are struggling to find players for a particular position that they just use the portal till they are able to find a freshman that they can build and grow with. When it comes to monies for college, remember that a lot of colleges can stack funding. That means they can give you athletic money + scholastic money too. So an example would be going to UGA/KSU/GSU and getting the hope + athletic money which would generate an awesome package where you don't pay for anything. So keep those grades up! Golden Year!!! The summer before and during sophomore year attend one-day ID camps (imho overnite camps not worth it, unless you need your kids out of your hair). Start to fill out recruitment athletic profiles to show interest. Remember June 15th before your Junior year, you can start chatting with colleges legally. Here are some pointers that I hope help your kid kick off the recruitment process. Please feel free in reaching out if you have any questions I can answer or put them out on the forum. Lots of folks are just as or more knowledgeable... Good Luck!!! - Keep and maintain a high GPA - Make a list of schools, research them - Be realistic about your choice of schools - Create a YouTube channel to share videos - Keep videos lengths to 2-3 minutes of quality plays - Update and clean-up all your social media platforms - Create an email just for recruitmen(futsal.gawdess2022@...) - Collate videos during your sophomore year (first highlight reel, loading) - Attend an ID Camp where there is a panel of coaches to answer questions - Set realistic expectations for which colleges suit your skills and/or playing time - Let the kids drive this whole process, coaches are recruiting them, not you oh and Patience!, Patience!, Patience!... BTW: Did I mention please be PATIENT!!! Thank you so much for this! What exactly is the portal? My kids have NCAA #s is that it? |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 26, 2022 2:58:34 GMT -5
The NCAA #s you are referring to may be tied to the NCAA Clearing House. All student athletes need to register and be cleared by the NCAA before you can commence with your college career. Think of it as you would say an HR dept. clearing you to be hired. The Transfer Portal is for current college athletes. In the past, if you transferred to an equal level school, you had to sit out a year as a penalty. Now you can make a one-time transfer without having to sit out a year. As an example, if you are at UGA and you're not getting any playing time or a new coach comes in and tells you, hey Suzy I don't rate you highly, you can enter the portal and another coach/college can pick you up. It's like Indeed for college athletes. Here is a good enough article that explains it more: thewire.signingdaysports.com/articles/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-ncaa-transfer-portal/ |
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Post by hotspur1 on May 26, 2022 6:46:57 GMT -5
I know this has been a topic over and over again but i feel like recruiting has changed the past few years with the extra eligibilityyear due to Covid as well as transfer portal. Anyone guided their kid through these waters recently and have any advice they'd share? There are so many layers to this but here goes; If my math is correct, the extra year of eligibility will disappear after the 2023 class. That is because the freshman class of 2019-2020 is the last class that can take advantage of the 5th year. So when chatting with colleges, ask how many extra year athletes are on the team. The portal is a whole other can of worms. What a freshman is up against, is a seasoned and proven college player who Coaches know can produce given they have first hand experience playing D1/2/3/etc. versus a bright-eyed unproven freshman. Ask colleges about the depth they have at your kid's position. Some schools are struggling to find players for a particular position that they just use the portal till they are able to find a freshman that they can build and grow with. When it comes to monies for college, remember that a lot of colleges can stack funding. That means they can give you athletic money + scholastic money too. So an example would be going to UGA/KSU/GSU and getting the hope + athletic money which would generate an awesome package where you don't pay for anything. So keep those grades up! Golden Year!!! The summer before and during sophomore year attend one-day ID camps (imho overnite camps not worth it, unless you need your kids out of your hair). Start to fill out recruitment athletic profiles to show interest. Remember June 15th before your Junior year, you can start chatting with colleges legally. Here are some pointers that I hope help your kid kick off the recruitment process. Please feel free in reaching out if you have any questions I can answer or put them out on the forum. Lots of folks are just as or more knowledgeable... Good Luck!!! - Keep and maintain a high GPA - Make a list of schools, research them - Be realistic about your choice of schools - Create a YouTube channel to share videos - Keep videos lengths to 2-3 minutes of quality plays - Update and clean-up all your social media platforms - Create an email just for recruitmen(futsal.gawdess2022@...) - Collate videos during your sophomore year (first highlight reel, loading) - Attend an ID Camp where there is a panel of coaches to answer questions - Set realistic expectations for which colleges suit your skills and/or playing time - Let the kids drive this whole process, coaches are recruiting them, not you oh and Patience!, Patience!, Patience!... BTW: Did I mention please be PATIENT!!! As someone who went through this with my daughter, this is fantastic advice. The key is being realistic about where the fit is, what level, and the why. My daughter wanted to play soccer while going to college. Some kids want to go to college to play soccer. There’s a difference. It’s a lot of work and a lot of outreach needed. You and your kid will put in a ton of effort. Before every showcase, tourney, camp, email the coaches/schools attending. Make good, quality highlight vids. But don’t put so much pressure on the process that you take the fun out of the game. Most kids that want a place to play can find a place. Maybe not high level D1 but outside of the top 20-30 teams, the top D2 and some NAIA are equal programs, and may give you a better education. |
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Post by dabe on May 26, 2022 8:26:27 GMT -5
The NCAA #s you are referring to may be tied to the NCAA Clearing House. All student athletes need to register and be cleared by the NCAA before you can commence with your college career. Think of it as you would say an HR dept. clearing you to be hired. The Transfer Portal is for current college athletes. In the past, if you transferred to an equal level school, you had to sit out a year as a penalty. Now you can make a one-time transfer without having to sit out a year. As an example, if you are at UGA and you're not getting any playing time or a new coach comes in and tells you, hey Suzy I don't rate you highly, you can enter the portal and another coach/college can pick you up. It's like Indeed for college athletes. Here is a good enough article that explains it more: thewire.signingdaysports.com/articles/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-ncaa-transfer-portal/Makes sense. I've signed my kids up for so many things and gotten so many numbers and usernames I definitely thought I missed something. Thanks again. |
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Post by soccermaxx72 on May 26, 2022 10:42:06 GMT -5
For those with twitter both of these share amazing and honest recruiting Insight:
@imcollegesoccer
@recruitsoccerxp
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 26, 2022 11:00:07 GMT -5
There are so many layers to this but here goes; If my math is correct, the extra year of eligibility will disappear after the 2023 class. That is because the freshman class of 2019-2020 is the last class that can take advantage of the 5th year. So when chatting with colleges, ask how many extra year athletes are on the team. The portal is a whole other can of worms. What a freshman is up against, is a seasoned and proven college player who Coaches know can produce given they have first hand experience playing D1/2/3/etc. versus a bright-eyed unproven freshman. Ask colleges about the depth they have at your kid's position. Some schools are struggling to find players for a particular position that they just use the portal till they are able to find a freshman that they can build and grow with. When it comes to monies for college, remember that a lot of colleges can stack funding. That means they can give you athletic money + scholastic money too. So an example would be going to UGA/KSU/GSU and getting the hope + athletic money which would generate an awesome package where you don't pay for anything. So keep those grades up! Golden Year!!! The summer before and during sophomore year attend one-day ID camps (imho overnite camps not worth it, unless you need your kids out of your hair). Start to fill out recruitment athletic profiles to show interest. Remember June 15th before your Junior year, you can start chatting with colleges legally. Here are some pointers that I hope help your kid kick off the recruitment process. Please feel free in reaching out if you have any questions I can answer or put them out on the forum. Lots of folks are just as or more knowledgeable... Good Luck!!! - Keep and maintain a high GPA - Make a list of schools, research them - Be realistic about your choice of schools - Create a YouTube channel to share videos - Keep videos lengths to 2-3 minutes of quality plays - Update and clean-up all your social media platforms - Create an email just for recruitmen(futsal.gawdess2022@...) - Collate videos during your sophomore year (first highlight reel, loading) - Attend an ID Camp where there is a panel of coaches to answer questions - Set realistic expectations for which colleges suit your skills and/or playing time - Let the kids drive this whole process, coaches are recruiting them, not you oh and Patience!, Patience!, Patience!... BTW: Did I mention please be PATIENT!!! As someone who went through this with my daughter, this is fantastic advice. The key is being realistic about where the fit is, what level, and the why. My daughter wanted to play soccer while going to college. Some kids want to go to college to play soccer. There’s a difference. It’s a lot of work and a lot of outreach needed. You and your kid will put in a ton of effort. Before every showcase, tourney, camp, email the coaches/schools attending. Make good, quality highlight vids. But don’t put so much pressure on the process that you take the fun out of the game. Most kids that want a place to play can find a place. Maybe not high level D1 but outside of the top 20-30 teams, the top D2 and some NAIA are equal programs, and may give you a better education. You mentioned it here, FG as well, about highlight videos. Does anyone have any tipsheets or guidance on how to create the highlight videos?? Our team uses the Veo and I have the access to the full length games, but don't know how to get it from the Veo to an edited YouTube video that can be sent out. Up until now, we just watch on the Veo and didn't need to make our own videos off of it. I know there are parents out there that have gone through this using Veo... please share your knowledge!! Is there editing software? Free or paid for? Does the video data need to be converted to a usable format? Are there any websites that can walk you through it? What other knowledge of the process is there that I am too uniformed to even ask? Thanks in advance for any insight you can share! |
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Post by hotspur1 on May 26, 2022 11:31:12 GMT -5
As someone who went through this with my daughter, this is fantastic advice. The key is being realistic about where the fit is, what level, and the why. My daughter wanted to play soccer while going to college. Some kids want to go to college to play soccer. There’s a difference. It’s a lot of work and a lot of outreach needed. You and your kid will put in a ton of effort. Before every showcase, tourney, camp, email the coaches/schools attending. Make good, quality highlight vids. But don’t put so much pressure on the process that you take the fun out of the game. Most kids that want a place to play can find a place. Maybe not high level D1 but outside of the top 20-30 teams, the top D2 and some NAIA are equal programs, and may give you a better education. You mentioned it here, FG as well, about highlight videos. Does anyone have any tipsheets or guidance on how to create the highlight videos?? Our team uses the Veo and I have the access to the full length games, but don't know how to get it from the Veo to an edited YouTube video that can be sent out. Up until now, we just watch on the Veo and didn't need to make our own videos off of it. I know there are parents out there that have gone through this using Veo... please share your knowledge!! Is there editing software? Free or paid for? Does the video data need to be converted to a usable format? Are there any websites that can walk you through it? What other knowledge of the process is there that I am too uniformed to even ask? Thanks in advance for any insight you can share! Not familiar with Veo at all but there are lots of options on the editing software, both free and paid. I used light works because it seemed to be easiest for me (I’m a Windows guy, there are some good Apple/Mac products out there). I believe Hudl may have introduced an editor but not sure. My daughter actually did a lot of the work herself, but then again she’s an Instagram junkie so familiar with editing a lot of crap. Most of our videos came from me with a decent camera (or camera phone) mounted on a tripod at strategic locations. If your child plays high school ball, most schools also video full games from a good vantage point. One other tip, we had an AV program at our high school and asked for help on a few clips - paid a couple of kids to help clean up some stuff that we sent out to various coaches directly. |
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Post by collegesoccer on May 26, 2022 11:43:58 GMT -5
As someone who went through this with my daughter, this is fantastic advice. The key is being realistic about where the fit is, what level, and the why. My daughter wanted to play soccer while going to college. Some kids want to go to college to play soccer. There’s a difference. It’s a lot of work and a lot of outreach needed. You and your kid will put in a ton of effort. Before every showcase, tourney, camp, email the coaches/schools attending. Make good, quality highlight vids. But don’t put so much pressure on the process that you take the fun out of the game. Most kids that want a place to play can find a place. Maybe not high level D1 but outside of the top 20-30 teams, the top D2 and some NAIA are equal programs, and may give you a better education. You mentioned it here, FG as well, about highlight videos. Does anyone have any tipsheets or guidance on how to create the highlight videos?? Our team uses the Veo and I have the access to the full length games, but don't know how to get it from the Veo to an edited YouTube video that can be sent out. Up until now, we just watch on the Veo and didn't need to make our own videos off of it. I know there are parents out there that have gone through this using Veo... please share your knowledge!! Is there editing software? Free or paid for? Does the video data need to be converted to a usable format? Are there any websites that can walk you through it? What other knowledge of the process is there that I am too uniformed to even ask? Thanks in advance for any insight you can share! To specifically answer your question about how to get veo video into a format that you can edit.… I don’t believe that you can download veo video unless you are the administrator. Your administrator at your club may be able to turn that feature on as well. Again I don’t know. However you can find the clips that you want and use a screen capture software to record the video clip as you play it on your screen. Then stitch it together with other clips to create a highlight video. We purchased Camtasia video editing software which includes a screen capture software as well. |
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Post by dabe on May 26, 2022 11:57:42 GMT -5
As someone who went through this with my daughter, this is fantastic advice. The key is being realistic about where the fit is, what level, and the why. My daughter wanted to play soccer while going to college. Some kids want to go to college to play soccer. There’s a difference. It’s a lot of work and a lot of outreach needed. You and your kid will put in a ton of effort. Before every showcase, tourney, camp, email the coaches/schools attending. Make good, quality highlight vids. But don’t put so much pressure on the process that you take the fun out of the game. Most kids that want a place to play can find a place. Maybe not high level D1 but outside of the top 20-30 teams, the top D2 and some NAIA are equal programs, and may give you a better education. You mentioned it here, FG as well, about highlight videos. Does anyone have any tipsheets or guidance on how to create the highlight videos?? Our team uses the Veo and I have the access to the full length games, but don't know how to get it from the Veo to an edited YouTube video that can be sent out. Up until now, we just watch on the Veo and didn't need to make our own videos off of it. I know there are parents out there that have gone through this using Veo... please share your knowledge!! Is there editing software? Free or paid for? Does the video data need to be converted to a usable format? Are there any websites that can walk you through it? What other knowledge of the process is there that I am too uniformed to even ask? Thanks in advance for any insight you can share! We used Veo last year for a little bit. I think the owner of your Veo team can make videos downloadable. My kid just screen recorded the clips she liked in Veo and the quality was always okay. Trace has been much easier as far as being able to download the clips. I put the clips into iMovie and then upload to YouTube. It's free with iPhones and I believe on Macs as well, but definitely limited in its capabilities. Keep videos 3-5 minutes long. No sound/music is best. If any sound use game audio. I used ConnectSoccer as well. It was pretty easy and it walks you through everything. You can add a circle that highlights the player during each clip, titles, the whole thing. Comes with a profile too, but we don't use it. I'm sure other softwares can do this too that don't require you to create a profile. Final Cut comes to mind, but it's $300 and mac only. ConnectSoccer Costs $9 or $10 a month to add more than 10 clips for videos. All videos are uploaded to the CS YouTube channel which is a downside IMO, but I'm sure they're downloadable. Think I'm going to aim for something like this from here on: I'm new to this and my daughter is a better editor than I am, but hopes this helps a little. |
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Post by allthingsoccer on May 26, 2022 14:22:09 GMT -5
I love this forum. Hands down clear advise from everyone. GPA and communication is key. Some wanted to see full matches plus highlights. You are essentially marketing yourself. (your player) Build "free" player profiles on TopDrawer, Be Recruited, and others. You can also subscribe for $$ for more features. The schools website you can get emails/numbers. Calling is better. Smile and dial. For help with video once you have it. I have used Stafford Productions and also free lancers off Fiverr.com www.instagram.com/staff.highlights/ |
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Post by dabe on May 26, 2022 14:36:50 GMT -5
I love this forum. Hands down clear advise from everyone. GPA and communication is key. Some wanted to see full matches plus highlights. You are essentially marketing yourself. (your player) Build "free" player profiles on TopDrawer, Be Recruited, and others. You can also subscribe for $$ for more features. The schools website you can get emails/numbers. Calling is better. Smile and dial. For help with video once you have it. I have used Stafford Productions and also free lancers off Fiverr.com www.instagram.com/staff.highlights/Can you give some examples on what to say during calls? or what has worked best in your experience? TIA! |
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Post by allthingsoccer on May 26, 2022 15:02:21 GMT -5
I never spoke to the coaches. They want to speak with the player and build repour.
Some good questions to ask. I think futsal mentioned some good ones. How many extra year athletes are on the team, about the depth they have at your kid's position.
Are they seeking players for such and such year for said position.
What showcases will they be attending
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 26, 2022 15:53:26 GMT -5
I never spoke to the coaches. They want to speak with the player and build repour. Some good questions to ask. I think futsal mentioned some good ones. How many extra year athletes are on the team, about the depth they have at your kid's position. Are they seeking players for such and such year for said position. What showcases will they be attending And be prepared for some questions back and not just the "why do you want to play here?" My child was asked what they had learned from their younger sibling and what their younger sibling had learned from them? |
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Post by dadofthree on May 26, 2022 16:31:02 GMT -5
I love this forum. Hands down clear advise from everyone. GPA and communication is key. Some wanted to see full matches plus highlights. You are essentially marketing yourself. (your player) Build "free" player profiles on TopDrawer, Be Recruited, and others. You can also subscribe for $$ for more features. The schools website you can get emails/numbers. Calling is better. Smile and dial. For help with video once you have it. I have used Stafford Productions and also free lancers off Fiverr.com www.instagram.com/staff.highlights/One thing on calling. Most coaches are not at their desk they are out on a field so leaving a message there usually doesnt work well. Get their cellphone number. You can get by asking them at their camps or talking with your club coaches. (Remember if it is a D1 coach they can't talk with you about recruiting until I think June 15 after their sophomore year.) |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 26, 2022 19:02:59 GMT -5
I love this forum. Hands down clear advise from everyone. GPA and communication is key. Some wanted to see full matches plus highlights. You are essentially marketing yourself. (your player) Build "free" player profiles on TopDrawer, Be Recruited, and others. You can also subscribe for $$ for more features. The schools website you can get emails/numbers. Calling is better. Smile and dial. For help with video once you have it. I have used Stafford Productions and also free lancers off Fiverr.com www.instagram.com/staff.highlights/One thing on calling. Most coaches are not at their desk they are out on a field so leaving a message there usually doesnt work well. Get their cellphone number. You can get by asking them at their camps or talking with your club coaches. (Remember if it is a D1 coach they can't talk with you about recruiting until I think June 15 after their sophomore year.) Ditto. We also used Twitter direct messaging to set up times/exchange numbers. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 1, 2022 6:26:29 GMT -5
Boys and Girls college recruiting are completely different.
-Camps are money grabber. Unless your kid is personally invited to a camp, don't waste your $$ or time. It is rare that a kid gets picked from a crowd of kids, coaches are there tonsee certain kids. There's a lot of coaches at showcases and some will tell you not to bother paying for the camp when they can see you for free.
-Grades are important, I have heard of kids not being able to play after their 1st year because they loose their eligibility.
-Yes, theres an extra covid year, but we are seeing that a lot of kids are not caring to take advantage of it. This is even with the fact that seniors don't play their last spring season.
-The portal...lots of kids go in it after their 1st season. I blame a lot of parents for this, they push their kid to a college based on name. They want to be able to brag that their kid is going to a big D1 school not realizing that they may just sit on the bench.
Ask your kid if they would still want to attend that school even if they didn't play soccer. Injuries happen a lot in college and some are career ending. I have seen so many kids quit after their freshman year for different reasons.
As far as $$ is concerned, full rides are very rare. If the reason why you put your kid in soccer is for college $$, you're doing it for the wrong reasons. If you were to add all the $$ you spent on soccer (tuition, tournaments, uniforms, training, hotels, transportation, etc etc) you could have just saved that and used it towards college.
My kid loves her college experience so far and I wish the same for your kids.
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Post by notcrazysoccerdad on Jun 1, 2022 7:54:12 GMT -5
Ask your kid if they would still want to attend that school even if they didn't play soccer. Injuries happen a lot in college and some are career ending. I have seen so many kids quit after their freshman year for different reasons. Someone described this to me as the "Concussion Test" - if your kid got concussed on the first day of practice and couldn't ever play again, would they be happy at the school? Seems like the most important thing to me. |
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Post by bogan on Jun 1, 2022 9:39:49 GMT -5
I will say one good thing about the ID camps is that you can visit the college before or after. Of course you could do this without the camp, but if your kid is like mine, the soccer camp is what gets him to go.
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 1, 2022 11:30:42 GMT -5
Ask your kid if they would still want to attend that school even if they didn't play soccer. Injuries happen a lot in college and some are career ending. I have seen so many kids quit after their freshman year for different reasons. Someone described this to me as the "Concussion Test" - if your kid got concussed on the first day of practice and couldn't ever play again, would they be happy at the school? Seems like the most important thing to me. Exactly! She loves the school and experience. Now granted an athlete experience is a bit different she still loves the campus. Another thing, there are different D1 schools. The bigger the conference, the bigger the roster, the least he or she may play. |
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Post by jimm0811 on Jun 1, 2022 19:49:24 GMT -5
From my experience, I don’t think as many parents “push their kids to play D1”. First, those offers aren’t being thrown out like hotcakes. Most parents I’ve talked to support their kids wish to play where their hearts desire. Also, the portal has had an impact on all college sports. And in many cases it’s not simply a case of kids sitting on the bench. Look at a lot of the D1 transfers in women’s soccer. Girls who played regularly but elect to leave for a variety of reasons. Same with football. Deep rosters can be intimidating, but hopefully kids are willing to bet on themselves to a degree
The bottom line is, creating a system of free-agency in college sports means that there will be a ton of movement because kids don’t have to sit out a year like in years past. I say let em live.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jun 1, 2022 20:16:37 GMT -5
From my experience, I don’t think as many parents “push their kids to play D1”. First, those offers aren’t being thrown out like hotcakes. Most parents I’ve talked to support their kids wish to play where their hearts desire. Also, the portal has had an impact on all college sports. And in many cases it’s not simply a case of kids sitting on the bench. I have to say, while I agree that the portal has had an impact and it's not just about sitting on the bench, nothing personal but I disagree about parents and the D1 mindset. Too many parents chirp in their kids ears about D1, some for the pride of saying their kid plays D1 and some because it's their own dream. For others it's about the status of being able to post or brag or the perceived academics. Emory and MIT are D3 people. I can never hate on a parent bragging about their kid, but the real issue is many, many, numerous players, parents, and to some degree coaches and clubs don't understand the college process. I know some that are going to D1 and are getting zero dollars, they posted by July 1st and just want to play D1 wherever they can make it. Clubs need to hire college coordinators to guide families. I believe as of August 2021, only two clubs in Metro Atlanta had a paid coach who doubles as a college coordinator - Ricky Dave at AU and Dom Martelli at AFU. One of their jobs is to bring a sense of reality to families as to where they truly belong. You may have a heart for Penn State Women's but in reality you skills are better suited for Northwest South State U... |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 1, 2022 21:48:39 GMT -5
From my experience, I don’t think as many parents “push their kids to play D1”. First, those offers aren’t being thrown out like hotcakes. Most parents I’ve talked to support their kids wish to play where their hearts desire. Also, the portal has had an impact on all college sports. And in many cases it’s not simply a case of kids sitting on the bench. I have to say, while I agree that the portal has had an impact and it's not just about sitting on the bench, nothing personal but I disagree about parents and the D1 mindset. Too many parents chirp in their kids ears about D1, some for the pride of saying their kid plays D1 and some because it's their own dream. For others it's about the status of being able to post or brag or the perceived academics. Emory and MIT are D3 people. I can never hate on a parent bragging about their kid, but the real issue is many, many, numerous players, parents, and to some degree coaches and clubs don't understand the college process. I know some that are going to D1 and are getting zero dollars, they posted by July 1st and just want to play D1 wherever they can make it. Clubs need to hire college coordinators to guide families. I believe as of August 2021, only two clubs in Metro Atlanta had a paid coach who doubles as a college coordinator - Ricky Dave at AU and Dom Martelli at AFU. One of their jobs is to bring a sense of reality to families as to where they truly belong. You may have a heart for Penn State Women's but in reality you skills are better suited for Northwest South State U... I agree on the 90+% here. But the D1 thing is kind of a split IMO. There are so many great D3 academic institutions but kids often don't know the names of these schools because they are not on ESPN. So they focus on what they know. I would rather my kid go to many D3 schools over D1 schools but really I just want my kid to be happy. Also where you come from in the country plays a big role on what D3 academic powerhouses that people have even heard of. You mentioned MIT and Emory. Emory is local and MIT is likely the best known D3 school in the country. There are several top 50 academic schools that are D3 that few kids from my kids' school have ever heard of. It is tough to hear about D3 schools that are thousands of miles away from home. |
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Post by dadofthree on Jun 2, 2022 8:03:51 GMT -5
As a dad with one daughter playing d3 and one d1 I can't agree more that d3 programs can be great fits for many. For my d3 daughter she had basically given up playing in college because she wanted to be a pharmacist and saw no way to do both. But she was recruited by a program with one of the better pharmacy schools in the country and she has thrived playing. She has all the benefits of playing the sport she loves and has learn discipline, made lifelong friendships and has done most of the things that d1 athletes do but without the pressure of the full year d1 commitments. If your kid is wondering take them and let them see the schools while many don't have a name that you might recognize most provide things that you would be surprised about.
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