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Post by bogan on Jun 12, 2022 17:29:21 GMT -5
Will Wilson
“This afternoon, I went along to watch a game of another coach on the course. Just a short walk from the RCD Espanyol stadium, I couldn't help but admire the setting for such a game. Clear blue skies, temperature in the mid twenties, and a rooftop bar that peers over the pitch. Wow! It got me thinking about some of the sights in Missouri, and naturally I began to draw comparisons between the two footballing cultures. On my own personal Twitter, I began rambling aloud to anyone who would be bothered to read my nonsense. And then it turned into a thread which got a fair bit of reaction. So I thought I'd turn it into this article to be able to share with a wider audience.”
Article continues here-https://www.britishfootballcoaches.com/post/a-comparison-of-spanish-and-american-girls-football-culture
Good article-lots if pictures/examples.
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Post by rifle on Jun 12, 2022 21:07:40 GMT -5
Good read. Thanks for the link boganAn Englishman’s observations of America’s soccer culture versus Spain’s. He’s not sugar coating anything… American kids have it drilled into them from an early age that winning is super important. As a result, Americans don't do casual. There's no pickup or street football culture. What's the point? What does it lead to? Can you make money from it? No. It's just fun. Fun is seen as a waste of time. Something those less serious kids engage in. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 13, 2022 6:41:40 GMT -5
Good read. Thanks for the link boganAn Englishman’s observations of America’s soccer culture versus Spain’s. He’s not sugar coating anything… American kids have it drilled into them from an early age that winning is super important. As a result, Americans don't do casual. There's no pickup or street football culture. What's the point? What does it lead to? Can you make money from it? No. It's just fun. Fun is seen as a waste of time. Something those less serious kids engage in.For my older kid pick up games were done but she would not treat them differently than a regular game. She would not experiment with new tricks, etc. She always cared about winning more so would do the "best" play to score. It made the point of pick up play lost on her. We were not the ones who drilled winning into her. But it is in the culture here 100% |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jun 13, 2022 7:59:03 GMT -5
Yea, my kids had buddies over Friday and Saturday night.
about 6 boys each night. They went to the courts to play pick up hoops, didn't touch a soccer ball.
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Post by BubbleDad on Jun 13, 2022 21:40:31 GMT -5
Most fields with goals are owned by clubs that don't let you play on them casually.
Mudcreek in Marietta/Powder Springs is more available for pickup and the one in Acworth up 41 I think is too.
Terrill Mill only has one field.
Grimes Bridge in Roswell has limited space for pickup too.
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Post by beflo on Jun 14, 2022 8:00:10 GMT -5
Most fields with goals are owned by clubs that don't let you play on them casually. Mudcreek in Marietta/Powder Springs is more available for pickup and the one in Acworth up 41 I think is too. Terrill Mill only has one field. Grimes Bridge in Roswell has limited space for pickup too. Braly in Paulding county (SSA fields) are owned and maintained by the county. So as long as no club practices or games are going on, the fields there are always open to play. |
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Post by soccerparentx on Jun 27, 2022 10:02:16 GMT -5
Another good article - same site. Probably TL;DR content for many. www.britishfootballcoaches.com/post/youth-football-comparisons-between-spain-england-belgium-and-usaSubsection way down towards the bottom of the page explaining a player development graphic: My crude attempt at illustrating a player development system. Lots of young boys and girls are drawn into the football system of a given country or area. This is the input. At the other end, the output, are the future pros, amateur players, coaches, referees, and lifelong fans of football. Our job as coaches is not to produce pro players. That would be the job of a very small percentage of coaches working in the upper age groups of professional academies. But even they still have the task of creating lifelong fans. What we do with our kids today should benefit football for years to come, even long after we're gone. It is our responsibility to the sport that has given us so much. Unfortunately, what we see is too much collateral. These are kids that quit the game and fall out of love with football. When we progress to bigger fields and team sizes too quickly, the smaller, weaker, less developed kids often quit. When we encourage a hyper-competitive win at all costs grassroots, we create environments of aggression and fear, and inevitably, we lose more kids. Lots of things create collateral. Prohibitive registration fees for young players, selection policies that cut players, unrealistic demands on commitment, toxic environments etc. |
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Post by bolo on Jun 27, 2022 13:20:09 GMT -5
Will Wilson “This afternoon, I went along to watch a game of another coach on the course. Just a short walk from the RCD Espanyol stadium, I couldn't help but admire the setting for such a game. Clear blue skies, temperature in the mid twenties, and a rooftop bar that peers over the pitch. Wow! It got me thinking about some of the sights in Missouri, and naturally I began to draw comparisons between the two footballing cultures. On my own personal Twitter, I began rambling aloud to anyone who would be bothered to read my nonsense. And then it turned into a thread which got a fair bit of reaction. So I thought I'd turn it into this article to be able to share with a wider audience.” Article continues here-https://www.britishfootballcoaches.com/post/a-comparison-of-spanish-and-american-girls-football-culture Good article-lots if pictures/examples. Yawn. Typical over-generalization and America-bashing from a lazy European- who for some reason lives in America, even though he apparently can't think of much positive to say about it. He hits all the major tropes: - All American parents are competitive a**holes who live vicariously through their kids. - American kids are all athletic robots who have zero creativity and have no fun playing sports ever. - No one in America has ever gone out on their field at halftime of a game to just kick around. Like, ever. I know my daughter & I haven't done that dozens of times during her brother's games over the years, and vice versa. Nope, simply doesn't happen in hyper-competitive, bitter America. Never has even once. - Only rich kids can afford to play soccer here. No clubs ever give fee reductions or scholarships to kids that can't afford the full freight. And don't even mention school soccer, that apparently doesn't count. - American kids have zero independence. Their parents do everything for them. OK, right. Again, the over-generalization is staggering & ignorant. It's almost like he's describing Europeans who are so reliant on government for everything! Read between the lines in many of his statements and you'll see valid reasons for the things he criticizes about the US, our parents & players, style of play, etc. If everything sucks so badly about American soccer- specifically at the youth level, where he somewhat focuses, though he seems to be contrasting a semi-pro women's team in Barcelona with youth soccer in Missouri for most of his rant- why doesn't he do something concrete to fix it? I swear, it's like some Europeans don't understand or can't acknowledge that there are major differences between Europe & America, in terms of society, geography, sports, etc. For example, most areas of America are not "walking cities" like Barcelona or many old Europeans cities, so it's virtually impossible for a stadium like the one he described to even exist. And it's hard to get a pickup soccer game going when you need a decent-sized number of players, and most of American is more spread out than somewhere like Barcelona, so you need cars to get to the games. That's just how most of America is- we're a spread out society, outside of a few big crowded cities. And soccer is not the #1 sport in America like it is in virtually every other country in the world by far. So yeah, kids here try other sports & activities, and often prefer them to soccer. Financially, we have a higher standard of living than most of Europe does. So a lot of things- like soccer club dues- cost more in America than they might elsewhere. And people here often have more money to spend because we're not burdened by massive government taxes (comparatively speaking) like most European countries are. So it's a trade off. Bottom line, everybody loves to bash America, I get it. Most are jealous, whether they want to admit it or not. Are we perfect? No, of course not, no country or society is. But we seem to be a pretty damn good place to live, considering how many people want to come here. So if this guy thinks America is such an irredeemable craphole, Delta is ready when he is. |
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Post by rifle on Jun 27, 2022 20:46:57 GMT -5
You’re both right.
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Post by georgiasoccerdad on Jun 28, 2022 15:52:13 GMT -5
Will Wilson “This afternoon, I went along to watch a game of another coach on the course. Just a short walk from the RCD Espanyol stadium, I couldn't help but admire the setting for such a game. Clear blue skies, temperature in the mid twenties, and a rooftop bar that peers over the pitch. Wow! It got me thinking about some of the sights in Missouri, and naturally I began to draw comparisons between the two footballing cultures. On my own personal Twitter, I began rambling aloud to anyone who would be bothered to read my nonsense. And then it turned into a thread which got a fair bit of reaction. So I thought I'd turn it into this article to be able to share with a wider audience.” Article continues here-https://www.britishfootballcoaches.com/post/a-comparison-of-spanish-and-american-girls-football-culture Good article-lots if pictures/examples. nd America-bashing from a lazy European- who for some reason lives in America, even though he apparently can't think of much positive to say about it. He hits all the major tropes: - All American parents are competitive a**holes who live vicariously through their kids. - American kids are all athletic robots who have zero creativity and have no fun playing sports ever. - No one in America has ever gone out on their field at halftime of a game to just kick around. Like, ever. I know my daughter & I haven't done that dozens of times during her brother's games over the years, and vice versa. Nope, simply doesn't happen in hyper-competitive, bitter America. Never has even once. - Only rich kids can afford to play soccer here. No clubs ever give fee reductions or scholarships to kids that can't afford the full freight. And don't even mention school soccer, that apparently doesn't count. - American kids have zero independence. Their parents do everything for them. OK, right. Again, the over-generalization is staggering & ignorant. It's almost like he's describing Europeans who are so reliant on government for everything! Read between the lines in many of his statements and you'll see valid reasons for the things he criticizes about the US, our parents & players, style of play, etc. If everything sucks so badly about American soccer- specifically at the youth level, where he somewhat focuses, though he seems to be contrasting a semi-pro women's team in Barcelona with youth soccer in Missouri for most of his rant- why doesn't he do something concrete to fix it? I swear, it's like some Europeans don't understand or can't acknowledge that there are major differences between Europe & America, in terms of society, geography, sports, etc. For example, most areas of America are not "walking cities" like Barcelona or many old Europeans cities, so it's virtually impossible for a stadium like the one he described to even exist. And it's hard to get a pickup soccer game going when you need a decent-sized number of players, and most of American is more spread out than somewhere like Barcelona, so you need cars to get to the games. That's just how most of America is- we're a spread out society, outside of a few big crowded cities. And soccer is not the #1 sport in America like it is in virtually every other country in the world by far. So yeah, kids here try other sports & activities, and often prefer them to soccer. Financially, we have a higher standard of living than most of Europe does. So a lot of things- like soccer club dues- cost more in America than they might elsewhere. And people here often have more money to spend because we're not burdened by massive government taxes (comparatively speaking) like most European countries are. So it's a trade off. Bottom line, everybody loves to bash America, I get it. Most are jealous, whether they want to admit it or not. Are we perfect? No, of course not, no country or society is. But we seem to be a pretty damn good place to live, considering how many people want to come here. So if this guy thinks America is such an irredeemable craphole, Delta is ready when he is. Thank you- exactly what I was thinking. I lost interest when the writer had to bring in Fox News and the Boggieman- please just keep it about the sport. How's the Spanish women's softball team doing? Volleyball? Basketball? Now US girls can even get into flag football. You know American girls are lucky there are a number of sports where they can not only just play to have fun- but play with a goal in mind. For many it may be to win the State Cup, for others- to move on to ODP. To many on the girls side, it's to play for their high school team- and then maybe after that, in college. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jun 29, 2022 8:49:36 GMT -5
Hmmmmm
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