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Post by dabe on Jun 21, 2022 13:56:35 GMT -5
My kid keeps getting invites to EXACT soccer ID Camps.
Joining an "elite community" is always a red flag IMO. The price seems outrageous. $950 for three days.
Their site lists all of these evaluations and feedback, but do college coaches actually do this or does camp staff? I can't imagine very many college coaches sitting down and evaluating every single player.
If you have any experience with the camp, what are your thoughts? My hunch is that it's a cash-grab that will exhaust my kid and my wallet.
Also wondering how they got my email...
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Post by atlcoach84 on Jun 21, 2022 15:20:56 GMT -5
Exact camps are good for college coaches needing to make extra money to come in and work. They aren't regarded as fertile recruiting events by the majority of college programs, but if you're the 2nd or 3rd assistant coach at a school and aren't particularly well-paid(and they offer to fly you in), it's an easy way to make money.
They have a weird scheme of getting you to make extra money as a coach-if you are willing to do evaluations, coach extra sessions, post on social media that you're attending their event, invite players from your recruiting database etc, you're eligible for extra compensation as a college coach.
I would not recommend them unless you know in advance you'll be able to work with a specific college coach at a school you're interested in attending.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 21, 2022 17:36:21 GMT -5
We did one years ago. I think they are good for young kids like 8th grade or 9th to see where they stand and to get an opportunity to see how ID camps are run. That being said, when my kid went it was local and not anywhere near that expensive.
I thought the recruiting talk was helpful at that young age. The college coach that did my kid's eval did a nice job and was spot on IMO about strengths and weaknesses. She had fun at the camp, but I think most of the coaches were volunteer assistants from the big schools (Power 5). NAIA and mid major D1 schools had some head coaches and associate head coaches bit not many.
Make of that what you will.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jun 22, 2022 21:00:27 GMT -5
While I agree with oraclesfriend that it is good to get the experience of knowing what and how ID Camps run, I don't believe you should ever spend $950. As many others have said, these types of all world ID camps, put on by 3rd parties, are for the 4th/5th coach on the coaching staff who need to make some rent or beer $$$ to tide them over through the lean summer months 😊 In all seriousness, before attending ID camps organized and administered by a third party, do your research or due diligence. In contrast to an ID camp organized or run by a college, their main goal is financial gain. Ask detailed questions, such as which coaches are assured to be there, how much time you will have to work with them, which coaches will be seeing you play, and what options you have if the coach you intended to be seen by decides not to go. Two purposes should be served by ID camps: To begin with, follow up and give the schools/coaches a chance to acquire a better understanding of you, your skills, and how you fit into their program. This may occur after you have been observed at a competition, showcase, or playoffs. Second, it assists you in affirming or disproving any assumptions you may have about a particular school in which you might be interested. Attending ID camps with a theme at single-school or multi-schools that is hosted by one of the actual colleges, is what you want to do. One such event is organized by "smart" universities like MIT, U-Penn, Harvard, Johns Hopkins, Wash U., and Brown but is held on their campus. That is, in my opinion, where you receive the best value for your money. You don't visit any of these camps naively, though. Contact the coaching staff in advance and let them know about your background, areas of interest, and career achievements. Before, during, and after the camp, they are more likely to remember you. In your email and at the camp, leave them with something to remember you by. Attend all ID camps that include discussions about a day in the life of. This is a chance to see how college life actually functions from the inside out. If you attend a multi-school ID camp, you get to analyze the benefits and drawbacks of each school to help you decide which ones to keep or drop. You also have the opportunity to take a tour of the facilities, sometimes interact with existing players, and establish connections with coaches. Keep in mind that invitations do not guarantee signings. Your actions toward both known and unknown players are taken into consideration. Be amiable and get to know your teammates. Please, no coaching from the sidelines or bleachers, parents. Let youngster handle this one on their own. Be a good teammate, communicate, share the ball, be intense, and just ball out. Coaches will take note. Good luck, use sunscreen, and drink plenty of water... |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 22, 2022 21:26:48 GMT -5
While I agree with oraclesfriend that it is good to get the experience of knowing what and how ID Camps run, I don't believe you should ever spend $950. As many others have said, these types of all world ID camps, put on by 3rd parties, are for the 4th/5th coach on the coaching staff who need to make some rent or beer $$$ to tide them over through the lean summer months 😊 In all seriousness, before attending ID camps organized and administered by a third party, do your research or due diligence. In contrast to an ID camp organized or run by a college, their main goal is financial gain. Ask detailed questions, such as which coaches are assured to be there, how much time you will have to work with them, which coaches will be seeing you play, and what options you have if the coach you intended to be seen by decides not to go. Two purposes should be served by ID camps: To begin with, follow up and give the schools/coaches a chance to acquire a better understanding of you, your skills, and how you fit into their program. This may occur after you have been observed at a competition, showcase, or playoffs. Second, it assists you in affirming or disproving any assumptions you may have about a particular school in which you might be interested. Attending ID camps with a theme at single-school or multi-schools that is hosted by one of the actual colleges, is what you want to do. One such event is organized by "smart" universities like MIT, U-Penn, Harvard, Johns Hopkins, Wash U., and Brown but is held on their campus. That is, in my opinion, where you receive the best value for your money. You don't visit any of these camps naively, though. Contact the coaching staff in advance and let them know about your background, areas of interest, and career achievements. Before, during, and after the camp, they are more likely to remember you. In your email and at the camp, leave them with something to remember you by. Attend all ID camps that include discussions about a day in the life of. This is a chance to see how college life actually functions from the inside out. If you attend a multi-school ID camp, you get to analyze the benefits and drawbacks of each school to help you decide which ones to keep or drop. You also have the opportunity to take a tour of the facilities, sometimes interact with existing players, and establish connections with coaches. Keep in mind that invitations do not guarantee signings. Your actions toward both known and unknown players are taken into consideration. Be amiable and get to know your teammates. Please, no coaching from the sidelines or bleachers, parents. Let youngster handle this one on their own. Be a good teammate, communicate, share the ball, be intense, and just ball out. Coaches will take note. Good luck, use sunscreen, and drink plenty of water... When we did that one (exact) it was less than 400. Not sure why it was so expensive. FYI we did mid major D1 camps at anywhere between $85 and 150. |
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