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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 16, 2022 16:47:47 GMT -5
TWENTY-THREE PLAYERS CALLED FOR U-17 MYNT TRAINING CAMP IN CHULA VISTA, CALIF.
I think it's 2 players not at MLS clubs, and all play MLS next?
To not throw a bone to a single ecnl player to me is disgusting honeslty. disturbing and shows lazy scouting.
That off my chest, who is Bryce Jamison (Barca Academy; Atlanta, Ga.)? what club did he play at here?
U-17 MYNT ROSTER BY POSITION (CLUB; HOMETOWN) - AUGUST TRAINING CAMP
GOALKEEPERS (3): Nolan Anderson (Houston Dynamo FC; Murrieta, Calif.), Adam Beaudry (Colorado Rapids; Castle Pines, Colo.), Julian Eyestone (FC Dallas; Dallas, Texas)
DEFENDERS (7): Ezequial Abadia-Reda (Inter Miami CF; Davie, Fla.), Matai Akinmboni (D.C. United; Upper Marlboro, Md.), Dominic Bell (Orlando City SC; Orlando, Fla.), Christian Diaz (LAFC; San Bernardino, Calif.), Sawyer Jura (Portland Timbers; Bend, Ore.), Tadeo Razo Sanchez (Colorado Rapids; Denver, Colo.), Lazar Stefanovic (Toronto FC/CAN; Oakville, Canada)
MIDFIELDERS (6): Bajung Darboe (Philadelphia Union; Sun Prairie, Wisc.), Bento Estrela (New York Red Bulls; Bloomfield, N.J.), Alejandro Granados (Orlando City SC; Orlando, Fla.), Aaron Heard (St. Louis CITY SC; Fairfax, Va.), Ian Shaul (Portland Timbers; North St. Paul, Minn.), Luke Zielinksi (Philadelphia Union; Weston, Conn.)
FORWARDS (7): Brian Carmona Romero (Charlotte FC; Concord, N.C.), Andre Gitau (Houston Dynamo FC; Richmond, Texas), Bryce Jamison (Barca Academy; Atlanta, Ga.), Ruben Ramos Jr. (LA Galaxy, La Puente, Calif.), Ezekiel Soto (Houston Dynamo FC; Menifee, Calif.), David Vazquez (Philadelphia Union; Los Angeles, Calif.), Adrian Wibowo (LAFC; Los Angeles, Calif.)
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on Aug 16, 2022 21:20:37 GMT -5
NASA and Atl Utd.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 17, 2022 0:09:38 GMT -5
TWENTY-THREE PLAYERS CALLED FOR U-17 MYNT TRAINING CAMP IN CHULA VISTA, CALIF. I think it's 2 players not at MLS clubs, and all play MLS next? To not throw a bone to a single ecnl player to me is disgusting honeslty. disturbing and shows lazy scouting (LOUDER)That off my chest, who is Bryce Jamison (Barca Academy; Atlanta, Ga.)? what club did he play at here? Family felt he would not get any luv here in the AU system. They were not developing him and felt he was heading in the wrong direction. European scout advised him to move. Parent took job with west coast division of company, so it was a no brainer. Yada yada. He now plays for the Barca Academy... Aside: I'm hearing far too many people who are no longer drinking the kool-aid that AU is offering, and they often belong to the younger teams rather than the more cynical older teams. At age 12, one player has already decided not to come back after his first year. The current 17s performed poorly during the weekend in the SOMOS UNIDOS CUP, finishing 1-4, 1-4, and 0-3. a setback against a USL Academy, an MLS Academy, and a LigaMX Academy teams. Last year, many of the current U17 players played up and enjoyed some success. I mention all of this in the hopes that I'm incorrect and the new c-suite leader recognizes the actual worth of a strong Academy that seeks to create a fully developed player that does have a real chance at success at the next level... |
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Post by datrain on Aug 17, 2022 9:41:45 GMT -5
I have said this on several different threads....in a nutshell, on the boys side, college coaches and national team scouts focus their efforts on MLS Next clubs. Not to say there are not quality players outside of that league....but they will tell you that the quality of competition and the level of overall talent is just higher nationally at MLS Next. My son was at an Ivy League institution's ID camp this summer....of the 28 players invited by the coaches to play in the select game, 27 were MLS Next players.
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Post by newguy on Aug 17, 2022 11:32:46 GMT -5
It’s pretty evident US Soccer is telling everyone this is our path forward. Either get on board or get left behind. In the long run it should lead to some consolidation at the highest levels of play which I don’t think is a bad thing.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 17, 2022 12:02:06 GMT -5
I'd argue it's not even MLS next...it's these kids have to be at MLS clubs --
Barca seems to have kids identified more than others as well. It's built was seems a favorable reputation in a rather short time period.
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Post by allthingsoccer on Aug 17, 2022 12:06:49 GMT -5
I have said this on several different threads....in a nutshell, on the boys side, college coaches and national team scouts focus their efforts on MLS Next clubs. Not to say there are not quality players outside of that league....but they will tell you that the quality of competition and the level of overall talent is just higher nationally at MLS Next. My son was at an Ivy League institution's ID camp this summer....of the 28 players invited by the coaches to play in the select game, 27 were MLS Next players. Yes its growing every year but still a strong mix of ECNL players on D1 rosters. MLS, ECNL and the biggest threat is International players. A good 25-35% of rosters are now International players. TA of the Gamecocks is an example... 18 new players, 8 are Internationals. PC (Presbyterian)- 15 new players, 8 are Internationals and so on... |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 17, 2022 12:08:51 GMT -5
I have said this on several different threads....in a nutshell, on the boys side, college coaches and national team scouts focus their efforts on MLS Next clubs. Not to say there are not quality players outside of that league....but they will tell you that the quality of competition and the level of overall talent is just higher nationally at MLS Next. My son was at an Ivy League institution's ID camp this summer....of the 28 players invited by the coaches to play in the select game, 27 were MLS Next players. Yes its growing every year but still a strong mix of ECNL players on D1 rosters. MLS, ECNL and the biggest threat is International players. A good 25-35% of rosters are now International players. TA of the Gamecocks is an example... 18 new players, 8 are Internationals. PC (Presbyterian)- 15 new players, 8 are Internationals and so on... Yea, my assumption is as well, that the 8 international players are also where the scholarship money is going..... |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Aug 17, 2022 12:10:36 GMT -5
Yes its growing every year but still a strong mix of ECNL players on D1 rosters. MLS, ECNL and the biggest threat is International players. A good 25-35% of rosters are now International players. TA of the Gamecocks is an example... 18 new players, 8 are Internationals. PC (Presbyterian)- 15 new players, 8 are Internationals and so on... Yea, my assumption is as well, that the 8 international players are also where the scholarship money is going..... Yep. For sure! No to mention the freaking crazy transfer portal. Its truly nuts right now. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 17, 2022 12:23:00 GMT -5
Yea, wanted to watch GA State vs Pres last night -- only followed it on twitter, assuming there was no live stream.
The internationals --- lots of arguments in the twitterworld about intranational players taking scholarships. I think public institutions should have limitations and private schools can do what ever they want.
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Post by datrain on Aug 17, 2022 12:49:11 GMT -5
Yes its growing every year but still a strong mix of ECNL players on D1 rosters. MLS, ECNL and the biggest threat is International players. A good 25-35% of rosters are now International players. TA of the Gamecocks is an example... 18 new players, 8 are Internationals. PC (Presbyterian)- 15 new players, 8 are Internationals and so on... Yea, my assumption is as well, that the 8 international players are also where the scholarship money is going..... Candidly, I don't see a strong mix anywhere. There are ECNL players for certain......but they are a materially smaller percentage than MLS kids |
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 17, 2022 14:02:31 GMT -5
Yea, my assumption is as well, that the 8 international players are also where the scholarship money is going..... Candidly, I don't see a strong mix anywhere. There are ECNL players for certain......but they are a materially smaller percentage than MLS kids Let's be clear. When you are talking about most D1 men's soccer players coming from MLS Next instead of ECNL, are those players coming from MLS academy teams or are you saying that non-MLS teams that are playing in MLS Next are putting more players into D1 than ECNL teams? If your answer is that MLS academies are placing more kids into D1 than ECNL is, my answer is no, shizat. MLS academies have their pick of many of the best players and can take a player for a year and take credit for them. If your answer is that non-MLS teams that are playing in MLS Next are placing more players in D1 than ECNL, I call bullshizat and need some proof. I have a real hard time believing that AFC Lightning, Inter Atlanta, KSA, LSA, SSA and Tormenta are sending more boys to D1 schools than NTH, Concorde, UFA, AFU, and GSA. |
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Post by soccerparentx on Aug 17, 2022 14:18:12 GMT -5
Candidly, I don't see a strong mix anywhere. There are ECNL players for certain......but they are a materially smaller percentage than MLS kids Let's be clear. When you are talking about most D1 men's soccer players coming from MLS Next instead of ECNL, are those players coming from MLS academy teams or are you saying that non-MLS teams that are playing in MLS Next are putting more players into D1 than ECNL teams? If your answer is that MLS academies are placing more kids into D1 than ECNL is, my answer is no, shizat. MLS academies have their pick of many of the best players and can take a player for a year and take credit for them. If your answer is that non-MLS teams that are playing in MLS Next are placing more players in D1 than ECNL, I call bullshizat and need some proof. I have a real hard time believing that AFC Lightning, Inter Atlanta, KSA, LSA, SSA and Tormenta are sending more boys to D1 schools than NTH, Concorde, UFA, AFU, and GSA. Does anyone have a list of D1 signees from all of the clubs listed above? (Exclude AU) All I see is what is on social media. In looking at CF's website, it's predominantly girls' signings. |
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 17, 2022 14:38:44 GMT -5
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 17, 2022 14:40:01 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 17, 2022 15:14:09 GMT -5
CF needs to update. Their most recent was 2020 class (2 years ago) using DA boys. NASA had 2021 which is reasonable as maybe they have to be sure of all of the 2022 class. Might be a couple late signers. I see a lot of D3 and D2 on both lists. Most D1 were not power 5. That being said there is nothing wrong with D3 and D2 as they may get more money there. Most D2 schools are not as strong academically. They are often not as well known schools so have fewer applicants and better chances of getting academic money (out of state ones). D3 signings might be more about academics. Emory is a great school academically. So many kids choose schools for reasons aside from soccer. |
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Post by soccerparent02 on Aug 17, 2022 18:20:27 GMT -5
Have to disagree college coaches only focus on MLS and MLS Next clubs. Kid I know played ECNL at one of the Big 5 in Atlanta, number 1 in SE in consecutive years and played for natty. He had 23 offers including by a very recent D1 National champ but turned them all down for a full academic ride to a very well known local engineering school. All but 2 received D1 offers. Currently 4 are starting D1, 3 are starting D2 or D3 and 1 that turned down D1 starts for their college club team. They would go to a showcase and have 50 coaches watching. If kid can play, coaches know and recruit them. No MLS is needed.
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Post by allthingsoccer on Aug 18, 2022 7:50:40 GMT -5
Yea, wanted to watch GA State vs Pres last night -- only followed it on twitter, assuming there was no live stream. The internationals --- lots of arguments in the twitterworld about intranational players taking scholarships. I think public institutions should have limitations and private schools can do what ever they want. Yeah no stream. Agree. Has to be some sort of limit. |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Aug 18, 2022 9:40:44 GMT -5
Have to disagree college coaches only focus on MLS and MLS Next clubs. Kid I know played ECNL at one of the Big 5 in Atlanta, number 1 in SE in consecutive years and played for natty. He had 23 offers including by a very recent D1 National champ but turned them all down for a full academic ride to a very well known local engineering school. All but 2 received D1 offers. Currently 4 are starting D1, 3 are starting D2 or D3 and 1 that turned down D1 starts for their college club team. They would go to a showcase and have 50 coaches watching. If kid can play, coaches know and recruit them. No MLS is needed. Agree. From what I have seen, way more ECNL players than MLS Academy players. But wanted to note... The 2022 class (u19s) for Atlanta United Academy had 15 D1 signees and 2 pros. |
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Post by datrain on Aug 18, 2022 15:34:46 GMT -5
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 18, 2022 16:01:07 GMT -5
I don't know about all of their current players who are seniors in HS but I do know of an '05 AU player, currently a HS senior, who is committed to Clemson. |
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Post by trainsoccer on Aug 19, 2022 14:32:09 GMT -5
TWENTY-THREE PLAYERS CALLED FOR U-17 MYNT TRAINING CAMP IN CHULA VISTA, CALIF. I think it's 2 players not at MLS clubs, and all play MLS next? To not throw a bone to a single ecnl player to me is disgusting honeslty. disturbing and shows lazy scouting (LOUDER)That off my chest, who is Bryce Jamison (Barca Academy; Atlanta, Ga.)? what club did he play at here? Family felt he would not get any luv here in the AU system. They were not developing him and felt he was heading in the wrong direction. European scout advised him to move. Parent took job with west coast division of company, so it was a no brainer. Yada yada. He now plays for the Barca Academy... Aside: I'm hearing far too many people who are no longer drinking the kool-aid that AU is offering, and they often belong to the younger teams rather than the more cynical older teams. At age 12, one player has already decided not to come back after his first year. The current 17s performed poorly during the weekend in the SOMOS UNIDOS CUP, finishing 1-4, 1-4, and 0-3. a setback against a USL Academy, an MLS Academy, and a LigaMX Academy teams. Last year, many of the current U17 players played up and enjoyed some success. I mention all of this in the hopes that I'm incorrect and the new c-suite leader recognizes the actual worth of a strong Academy that seeks to create a fully developed player that does have a real chance at success at the next level... |
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Post by justhavefun on Aug 22, 2022 8:27:24 GMT -5
This may be off topic or should have it’s own thread. But I was looking at the AU 2022 Graduate lists ( good luck to those boys and families with college and beyond) and I think I noticed some names of some boys who played for both AU and an ECNL club during the season. I could be wrong, but if not does that happen a lot? I guess since it’s two different leagues and if the coaches / clubs are okay with it I don’t see why you couldn’t except for concerns over injuries. Anyway just curious. Thanks.
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