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Post by jamsoccer on Aug 18, 2022 12:26:15 GMT -5
Does the ECNL have issues with Georgia or the Southeast? Not a single GA girl made the list. Seems hard to believe…I assume this is across all age levels. SE Conference also the only conference without a 2nd team for ECNL all-conference…weird.
Not a knock on these kids. Kudos to them. This All-Regional League seems like a last minute thing…
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Post by soccernoleuk on Aug 18, 2022 12:37:41 GMT -5
This is very strange if you ask me. Is this all age groups combined? Why not have an "All Regional League" team for each age group?
From our ECNL-R team last year, I can think of 3 girls that should have been given serious consideration to being "All League", if it was just for our age group. If you are looking at all age groups combined, I am thinking all these girls are from U17 teams & older.
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 18, 2022 12:42:06 GMT -5
Assuming it is voted on by the coaches, south Atlantic is made up of Carolina and SE. there are many more teams in Carolina division than SE. Carolina exposure to Se is limited so makes sense that coaches would vote players they see the most.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 18, 2022 13:15:24 GMT -5
Does the ECNL have issues with Georgia or the Southeast? Not a single GA girl made the list. Seems hard to believe…I assume this is across all age levels. SE Conference also the only conference without a 2nd team for ECNL all-conference…weird. Not a knock on these kids. Kudos to them. This All-Regional League seems like a last minute thing… Isn’t Georgia in the ECNL Southeast division? There are quite a few Georgia girls on those lists. Sorry I don’t have the link… For ECNL, yes. But for ECNL-R clubs, the GA teams were in the "Southeast" division of the "South Atlantic" region/conference, which also included Alabama FC. The other division in the South Atlantic region was the Carolinas, which had two SC clubs plus several NC clubs and was very large, much larger than the SE division. For 2022-2023 the Southeast, which is now it's own region/conference, includes the same teams from last year's SE division plus the two SC clubs (SC United and CESA). |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 18, 2022 15:13:11 GMT -5
Assuming it is voted on by the coaches, south Atlantic is made up of Carolina and SE. there are many more teams in Carolina division than SE. Carolina exposure to Se is limited so makes sense that coaches would vote players they see the most. I get that. It makes sense, but again you would think they would weigh that in. There is something weird about the ECNL first team only thing as well. Is that something the ECNL divisions do themselves? Like southeast says "we are only doing first team" and all others say "we are voting on 1st and 2nd team." |
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Post by oldtrafford on Aug 18, 2022 16:43:21 GMT -5
Assuming it is voted on by the coaches, south Atlantic is made up of Carolina and SE. there are many more teams in Carolina division than SE. Carolina exposure to Se is limited so makes sense that coaches would vote players they see the most. In the SE Conference, coaches don’t vote on these things. In ECNL, the team that wins the conference gets 3 all-conference places and the player of the year. The second place team gets 2 all-conference places, every other team gets one. The club names whoever they want to those slots. No one votes. There’s no second team because the conference rep doesn’t do one. That’s the same reason there isn’t all-conference for the region at the RL level. there are certainly some teams across all age groups with parents who pull strings for those selections. that doesn’t mean those kids aren’t good players, but more deserving ones will never have a shot because of it. but that’s life in general too. sometimes it’s more about who you (or your parents) know than individual merit. welcome to the real world. i can see many concorde and afu parents reading this and silently nodding their head. |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Aug 18, 2022 19:38:26 GMT -5
In the SE Conference, coaches don’t vote on these things. In ECNL, the team that wins the conference gets 3 all-conference places and the player of the year. The second place team gets 2 all-conference places, every other team gets one. The club names whoever they want to those slots. No one votes. There’s no second team because the conference rep doesn’t do one. That’s the same reason there isn’t all-conference for the region at the RL level. there are certainly some teams across all age groups with parents who pull strings for those selections. that doesn’t mean those kids aren’t good players, but more deserving ones will never have a shot because of it. but that’s life in general too. sometimes it’s more about who you (or your parents) know than individual merit. welcome to the real world. i can see many concorde and afu parents reading this and silently nodding their head. CF Premier parents aren’t nodding there heads - they get a guaranteed spot for a second team player. |
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Post by soccerbro on Aug 19, 2022 6:53:42 GMT -5
Nice gratuitous shot at Premier. Love it.
To be fair, Premier was ahead of many other teams on the league tables in multiple age groups last year, who are also guaranteed one spot (according to the above poster). Premier also sent a player to a MAJOR ACC school this past year. it is possible that they have a player or two worthy of consideration despite the burden of being branded a "second team"...
At the end of the day, there's really no other way to do it, especially at younger age groups. if the coaches truly voted, it would be far from perfect and invite all sorts of other issues.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Aug 19, 2022 6:59:09 GMT -5
Nice gratuitous shot at Premier. Love it. To be fair, Premier was ahead of many other teams on the league tables in multiple age groups last year, who are also guaranteed one spot (according to the above poster). Premier also sent a player to a MAJOR ACC school this past year. it is possible that they have a player or two worthy of consideration despite the burden of being branded a "second team"... At the end of the day, there's really no other way to do it, especially at younger age groups. if the coaches truly voted, it would be far from perfect and invite all sorts of other issues. Fair enough. I was referring to boys teams but they did still do better than FC Alliance. |
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Post by soccerbro on Aug 19, 2022 7:15:01 GMT -5
Understood. I am no defender of Concorde. It's also not completely unfair to call Premier a second team. Concorde treats it as such, regardless of their lip service.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 19, 2022 8:14:35 GMT -5
How are these "all" teams created for ecnl and ecrl?
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Post by footyfan on Aug 19, 2022 15:11:18 GMT -5
Assuming it is voted on by the coaches, south Atlantic is made up of Carolina and SE. there are many more teams in Carolina division than SE. Carolina exposure to Se is limited so makes sense that coaches would vote players they see the most. In the SE Conference, coaches don’t vote on these things. In ECNL, the team that wins the conference gets 3 all-conference places and the player of the year. The second place team gets 2 all-conference places, every other team gets one. The club names whoever they want to those slots. No one votes. There’s no second team because the conference rep doesn’t do one. That’s the same reason there isn’t all-conference for the region at the RL level. If true, this is nonsensical |
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Aug 20, 2022 7:35:39 GMT -5
Agree. That seems crazy. Player of the Year in one age group a little suspect but if above is true, makes sense now.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 20, 2022 11:37:02 GMT -5
This is the finest thing I’ve heard in awhile.
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