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Post by atlutd17 on Aug 31, 2022 18:21:10 GMT -5
for saying for Atlanta United exactly what's been on our minds all along!
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Post by rifle on Aug 31, 2022 18:56:22 GMT -5
Dang. I was hoping he announced his retirement.
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Post by atlutd17 on Aug 31, 2022 19:25:24 GMT -5
Dang. I was hoping he announced his retirement. LOL he says a lot of stuff I don't like, but man he nailed it tonight. |
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Post by soccergurl on Aug 31, 2022 19:46:13 GMT -5
for saying for Atlanta United exactly what's been on our minds all along! |me think u try 2 get likes| |me think it silly 2 give half of story| |me think u say what AL say|
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Post by atlutd17 on Aug 31, 2022 20:35:50 GMT -5
for saying for Atlanta United exactly what's been on our minds all along! |me think u try 2 get likes| |me think it silly 2 give half of story| |me think u say what AL say|
WHAT A DISGRACE AGAIN tonight, need a drink. They should show Atlanta United team defending in coaching schools as an example of how to not defend. And the inconsistency among our top attacking players who can be great if managed better and worked together is beyond words. And I don't need likes soccergurl, thank you. Not sure I understand the rest. I need to enjoy watching soccer with Atlanta United the way I did during the first two years. Wasn't perfect but was fun to watch and I miss it. And it felt the powers that be cared. That was Atlanta United back then. We've been patient for four years. This now is anything but what Atlanta United should look like. |
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Post by unitedwestand on Aug 31, 2022 21:13:37 GMT -5
for saying for Atlanta United exactly what's been on our minds all along! |me think u try 2 get likes| |me think it silly 2 give half of story| |me think u say what AL say|
Soccergirl or whomever you are. Why, do you always type like that? It's extremely annoying! Grow up! |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 31, 2022 21:34:40 GMT -5
WHAT A DISGRACE AGAIN tonight, need a drink. They should show Atlanta United team defending in coaching schools as an example of how to not defend. And the inconsistency among our top attacking players who can be great if managed better and worked together is beyond words. And I don't need likes soccergurl, thank you. Not sure I understand the rest. I need to enjoy watching soccer with Atlanta United the way I did during the first two years. Wasn't perfect but was fun to watch and I miss it. And it felt the powers that be cared. That was Atlanta United back then. We've been patient for four years. This now is anything but what Atlanta United should look like. I'm already two drinks in, geezus. That last(4th) goal was one for the ages. For the record, not in a good way. It was like keystone cops. It's appalling that these paid players were just standing around watching. I get that Robinson n Guzan are out, but this is fundamental soccer at its worse. Now keep in mind Philly has one of the lowest overall payrolls and we have the largest. Do you overhaul team, clean-out the front office, who knows. I would say that whoever takes over at AU, needs to listen to the Philly coaches interview after the game. Their model works... |
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Post by baller84 on Aug 31, 2022 23:20:00 GMT -5
WHAT A DISGRACE AGAIN tonight, need a drink. They should show Atlanta United team defending in coaching schools as an example of how to not defend. And the inconsistency among our top attacking players who can be great if managed better and worked together is beyond words. And I don't need likes soccergurl, thank you. Not sure I understand the rest. I need to enjoy watching soccer with Atlanta United the way I did during the first two years. Wasn't perfect but was fun to watch and I miss it. And it felt the powers that be cared. That was Atlanta United back then. We've been patient for four years. This now is anything but what Atlanta United should look like. I'm already two drinks in, geezus. That last(4th) goal was one for the ages. For the record, not in a good way. It was like keystone cops. It's appalling that these paid players were just standing around watching. I get that Robinson n Guzan are out, but this is fundamental soccer at its worse. Now keep in mind Philly has one of the lowest overall payrolls and we have the largest. Do you overhaul team, clean-out the front office, who knows. I would say that whoever takes over at AU, needs to listen to the Philly coaches interview after the game. Their model works… Clean up front office obviously, and head coach yesterday. Important question is whom you bring in. This tonight like too many games was painful. Real nice guy (coach) but has managed worse than GH who was a total a*hole and FDB. Most naive soccer ever, most ineffective team in MLS. That's not what the fans meant by possession style soccer. Odd starting line ups too often, defensive organization among the worst in MLS (was bad under GH too to be fair), poor team attacking apart from sporadic combination plays by some of our better players. Possession mostly in the wrong areas of the pitch lacking purpose or urgency, and, when we need it to hold a lead, keep the ball, freeze opponent and kill the game, we can't. In other words, we possess the ball in times and areas our opponents want us to and let us. Players look to be out of ideas against organized defenses. Moreno, Almada and Arauju especially get frustrated resorting to individual efforts. Excessive dribbling slows down attack and makes it predictable, easier for compact defenses to cover space or double team. We miss too many of the few chances we create, and dearly miss the lethal striker Josef once was. Arauju, Almada, Gutman are legit, and must stay if they still want to be around. Not easy to find such quality/value ..see money spent on Pity, Barco, Damm etc. Such players need the right manager and supporting cast. Like the ways Tata used Gressel, Carmona, Nagbe, Parky, Escobar, Garza, Assad, Tito and others to support Miggy & Josef. Love Josef, grateful for the memories and want him around but I'm afraid we'll never see again the Josef who spoiled us in 2018 along with Miggy (still watch Newcastle just for him). Moreno has good skills but holds on to the ball too long, plays with his head down, but can be useful coming off the bench if you need a player to hold on to the ball, help with possession or protect a lead. Also costs much for the bench. Everything else should be on the table imo. Total overhaul at AU2 as well. 2 games will never forget the joy of things to come, 6-0 at Minnesota 2017 in the snow and the MLS Cup in 2018 with the pledge the CONCACAF Champions League would be next… |
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Post by bogan on Sept 1, 2022 4:51:16 GMT -5
My comments on this team and recent form would have been an expletive laden tirade so I just didn’t post until now. Discretion is the better part of valor.
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Post by rifle on Sept 1, 2022 5:01:42 GMT -5
for saying for Atlanta United exactly what's been on our minds all along! can you help me find the quote you are talking about? Because I tried and have no idea. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 1, 2022 7:55:41 GMT -5
Novo is not an MLS caliber keeper. We paid all this money to acquire Raul Gudino and haven't played him once yet. Is Novo really the best we got or is our Manager being stubborn? I realize keeper isn't the only issue we have but it is a big glaring one.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 1, 2022 8:24:32 GMT -5
Anyone have link to Lexi's comments --
this is pretty funny actually:
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 1, 2022 11:51:52 GMT -5
found it:
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Post by baller84 on Sept 1, 2022 20:52:40 GMT -5
He spoke like an Atlanta United fan who wants it all. |
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Post by 04gparent on Sept 2, 2022 8:25:23 GMT -5
Atlanta WAS that super club. I think the club and powers that be created a plan to get to the top. They found undiscovered talent in South America (SA) and spent their way up. Staying at the top is MUCH harder than getting there. Now ALL the original masterminds are gone... Plus MLS is harder to win now. Other clubs copied the model of bringing in young SA talent to MLS...
I hope they figure it out, but this is no longer a fix one thing and the whole team changes type of deal. There are holes everywhere.
My hope for them is that they find the right GM and president that can instill the right culture at ATLUTD. The next set of decisions are really important.
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Post by bogan on Sept 2, 2022 8:30:19 GMT -5
They have incredible talent, they just don’t gel. Is it the players’ fault? Coach? Front office? All of the above.?
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 2, 2022 10:59:45 GMT -5
They have incredible talent, they just don’t gel. Is it the players’ fault? Coach? Front office? All of the above.? I agree. I think we need to get rid of some folks and bring in some others, but overall we have some good talent. Players I want to stay: Lennon, Robinson, Gutman, Almada, Dwyer, Araujo, Cisneros, Wiley, maybe Purata Players that need to be traded off: Franco, Novo, Martinez(yes I said it), Moreno, Ambrose, Campbell and probably some others. As far as keeper goes we either need to get a stud in (if Gudino is not one) or we are going to still have issues there. I Think Guzan probably needs to retire. |
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Post by Whistledown on Sept 2, 2022 12:11:19 GMT -5
|me think u try 2 get likes| |me think it silly 2 give half of story| |me think u say what AL say|
Soccergirl or whomever you are. Why, do you always type like that? It's extremely annoying! Grow up! Actually, a good amount of fantastic literary figures used “me thinks,” Brontë for one. Shakespeare. |
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Post by atlutd17 on Sept 2, 2022 17:55:09 GMT -5
All three have to happen in Atlanta and that's a tall order:
1. Hire a president who wants titles, doesn't settle for #2, understands the game and business, and hires the right GM for it.
2. Hire a GM who will be smart enough to hire the right coach, knows the MLS system, knows when not to put his ego first, let the coach do his job, and work with him to bring the players needed.
3. Hire a coach with the knowledge, personality, experience, winning mentality, loves attacking soccer (not just possession), and reputation to attract the players needed.
Do those three and I don't care what player stays or goes, despite my preferences if it's for the best. Hit the restart button.
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Post by atlutd17 on Sept 2, 2022 17:59:37 GMT -5
Atlanta WAS that super club. I think the club and powers that be created a plan to get to the top. They found undiscovered talent in South America (SA) and spent their way up. Staying at the top is MUCH harder than getting there. Now ALL the original masterminds are gone... Plus MLS is harder to win now. Other clubs copied the model of bringing in young SA talent to MLS... I hope they figure it out, but this is no longer a fix one thing and the whole team changes type of deal. There are holes everywhere. My hope for them is that they find the right GM and president that can instill the right culture at ATLUTD. The next set of decisions are really important. It turned out thanks to some reporters there was ONE mastermind: Tata. We were just very lucky they listened to him when they did. And not so lucky when they stopped listening, and took it all for granted. And all many other clubs did after that was to copy us while we decided to go in … another direction and another and another (heck, we didn't even need .. Nagbe..) .. And we all know how well that has worked … |
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Post by footyfan on Sept 5, 2022 20:12:47 GMT -5
If only there was something, you know, to deter teams from coming in last place.
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Post by rifle on Sept 5, 2022 21:02:10 GMT -5
If only there was something, you know, to deter teams from coming in last place. You need to think of all the billionaire owners who hedged their NFL investments with more real estate deals and yeah, some soccer and a Ponzi scheme. How dare you suggest it. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Sept 6, 2022 14:04:05 GMT -5
Atlanta WAS that super club. I think the club and powers that be created a plan to get to the top. They found undiscovered talent in South America (SA) and spent their way up. Staying at the top is MUCH harder than getting there. Now ALL the original masterminds are gone... Plus MLS is harder to win now. Other clubs copied the model of bringing in young SA talent to MLS... I hope they figure it out, but this is no longer a fix one thing and the whole team changes type of deal. There are holes everywhere. My hope for them is that they find the right GM and president that can instill the right culture at ATLUTD. The next set of decisions are really important. It turned out thanks to some reporters there was ONE mastermind: Tata. We were just very lucky they listened to him when they did. And not so lucky when they stopped listening, and took it all for granted. And all many other clubs did after that was to copy us while we decided to go in … another direction and another and another (heck, we didn't even need .. Nagbe..) .. And we all know how well that has worked … In my opinion, CB is solely to blame for the entire Tata scandal. He was unable to move aside to allow the golden geese to lay golden eggs because he was so envious of the love and admiration Tata received. Instead, he began to discredit Tata, pressuring the coaches and staff to swear allegiance to him, prolonging the contract discussions, and even putting an end to Tata's potential as a serious contender for the top position with the USMNT. You may also add that he lacks skills as a "soccer executive" and is motivated by ego. He reportedly appeared disheveled and disorganized during the Academy dinner, like he had just climbed out of a bottle. This man can't be fired by AMB fast enough. In the event that he doesn't, I hope the new CEO/President limits his responsibilities to routine tasks and hires a really seasoned pro. If CB is fortunate enough to land the top position, oh my. |
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Post by mightydawg on Sept 6, 2022 14:24:25 GMT -5
It turned out thanks to some reporters there was ONE mastermind: Tata. We were just very lucky they listened to him when they did. And not so lucky when they stopped listening, and took it all for granted. And all many other clubs did after that was to copy us while we decided to go in … another direction and another and another (heck, we didn't even need .. Nagbe..) .. And we all know how well that has worked … In my opinion, CB is solely to blame for the entire Tata scandal. He was unable to move aside to allow the golden geese to lay golden eggs because he was so envious of the love and admiration Tata received. Instead, he began to discredit Tata, pressuring the coaches and staff to swear allegiance to him, prolonging the contract discussions, and even putting an end to Tata's potential as a serious contender for the top position with the USMNT. You may also add that he lacks skills as a "soccer executive" and is motivated by ego. He reportedly appeared disheveled and disorganized during the Academy dinner, like he had just climbed out of a bottle. This man can't be fired by AMB fast enough. In the event that he doesn't, I hope the new CEO/President limits his responsibilities to routine tasks and hires a really seasoned pro. If CB is fortunate enough to land the top position, oh my. All you need to know is that Rich McKay still works for the Falcons. If you need more than that, Thomas Dimitroff was GM for Falcons for 13 years. He was finally fire 2 years ago and no one else has hired him. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 6, 2022 15:13:24 GMT -5
2 words
dumpster fire
multiple words
dumpster fire from bottom to the top
Front office are fools ---
here is how the interview for tata's replacment should have gone.
front office: "What do you plan on changing?"
potential hire "absolutely nothing"
hired
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Post by mightydawg on Sept 6, 2022 15:31:00 GMT -5
2 words dumpster fire multiple words dumpster fire from bottom to the top Front office are fools --- here is how the interview for tata's replacment should have gone. front office: "What do you plan on changing?" potential hire "absolutely nothing" hired Even though Frank was not exciting, we still won 2 cups with him--U.S. Open and Campeones. Since then, drove the bus straight off a cliff. |
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Post by soccergurl on Sept 8, 2022 10:22:03 GMT -5
|me think u try 2 get likes| |me think it silly 2 give half of story| |me think u say what AL say|
Soccergirl or whomever you are. Why, do you always type like that? It's extremely annoying! Grow up! |me thinks if u no like the show| |me thinks u change the channel|
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Post by atlutd17 on Sept 8, 2022 17:27:52 GMT -5
It turned out thanks to some reporters there was ONE mastermind: Tata. We were just very lucky they listened to him when they did. And not so lucky when they stopped listening, and took it all for granted. And all many other clubs did after that was to copy us while we decided to go in … another direction and another and another (heck, we didn't even need .. Nagbe..) .. And we all know how well that has worked … In my opinion, CB is solely to blame for the entire Tata scandal. He was unable to move aside to allow the golden geese to lay golden eggs because he was so envious of the love and admiration Tata received. Instead, he began to discredit Tata, pressuring the coaches and staff to swear allegiance to him, prolonging the contract discussions, and even putting an end to Tata's potential as a serious contender for the top position with the USMNT. You may also add that he lacks skills as a "soccer executive" and is motivated by ego. He reportedly appeared disheveled and disorganized during the Academy dinner, like he had just climbed out of a bottle. This man can't be fired by AMB fast enough. In the event that he doesn't, I hope the new CEO/President limits his responsibilities to routine tasks and hires a really seasoned pro. If CB is fortunate enough to land the top position, oh my. I totally agree on CB, however, I can't hold DE totally unaccountable or not guilty. He had to have known what was going on, and had to have the power to do something about it. Not to mention he was the one with the shiny words about Champions League and Super Club etc etc … Instead the team has progressively gotten worse and less promising while at the same time the season ticket prices kept and keep going up (must be the highest in the league). And wouldn't have minded the prices one bit if the quality and value were shown on the field. |
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Post by footyfan on Sept 9, 2022 18:05:21 GMT -5
If only there was something, you know, to deter teams from coming in last place. You need to think of all the billionaire owners who hedged their NFL investments with more real estate deals and yeah, some soccer and a Ponzi scheme. How dare you suggest it. With the understanding that we (our kids) must make the best of the situation in front of us, we must all also realize that in creating division upon division of "invitational" leagues, the invitations to which are based on who your DOC knows or how well you aggregate talent, rather than the quality of your development, we are doing MLS' bidding. Youth soccer is refashioning itself in MLS' image and that is devastating to our youth. |
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Post by rifle on Sept 9, 2022 18:52:44 GMT -5
You need to think of all the billionaire owners who hedged their NFL investments with more real estate deals and yeah, some soccer and a Ponzi scheme. How dare you suggest it. With the understanding that we (our kids) must make the best of the situation in front of us, we must all also realize that in creating division upon division of "invitational" leagues, the invitations to which are based on who your DOC knows or how well you aggregate talent, rather than the quality of your development, we are doing MLS' bidding. Youth soccer is refashioning itself in MLS' image and that is devastating to our youth. How dare you suggest that. The billionaires play by the golden rule. |
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