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Post by soccermaxx72 on Sept 14, 2022 17:17:54 GMT -5
I heard this will be an open event?
Or is it just Georgia soccer, NL piedmont?
What about NL 64?
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Post by bogan on Sept 14, 2022 18:38:49 GMT -5
I heard this will be an open event? Or is it just Georgia soccer, NL piedmont? What about NL 64? Then you’ve heard more than I have…🤷🏻♂️ |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Sept 14, 2022 18:42:46 GMT -5
I heard this will be an open event? Or is it just Georgia soccer, NL piedmont? What about NL 64? Seems to me that NL 64 would qualify. |
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Post by bogan on Sept 14, 2022 19:45:33 GMT -5
I heard this will be an open event? Or is it just Georgia soccer, NL piedmont? What about NL 64? Seems to me that NL 64 would qualify. The more, the merrier… |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Sept 14, 2022 20:43:46 GMT -5
Seems to me that NL 64 would qualify. The more, the merrier… Agreed. Honestly it should be open to all but I just can't see the ECNL/GA/MLS Next teams going for it. |
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Post by baller84 on Sept 21, 2022 20:45:02 GMT -5
State Cup was something special, back in the day we wished it lasted longer.
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Post by soccerloafer on Sept 22, 2022 8:13:48 GMT -5
Really enjoyed driving to Columbus to play on shizatty fields and stay in shizatty hotels when 90% of the teams, fields, and hotels in the state are in the metro Atlanta area. While it certainly made recruiting / poaching easier for coaches, it was a bust for everyone else.
Then having the Final Four in Statesboro... One year we booked a hotel late, drove up, saw it was really an hourly 'trucker' hotel and drove away. Thankfully got the last room at a brand new hotel that wasn't even online yet.
The state association pretty much breaks everything it touches.
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Post by newposter on Sept 22, 2022 11:37:00 GMT -5
Agree. Location is not good.The very top teams arent playing in the event. Even teams that do play it, as other poster said, 90% plus are metro Atl. Way back when kid played, if we had a 10 am or later game, we drove it down and back to avoid the local accomodations.
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Post by soccerlegacy on Sept 22, 2022 12:06:55 GMT -5
hmmmm... makes me wonder why others broke off from Georgia Soccer??? it sounds like a delightful experience.
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Post by bogan on Sept 22, 2022 12:12:05 GMT -5
hmmmm... makes me wonder why others broke off from Georgia Soccer??? it sounds like a delightful experience. Honestly, about as delightful as any stay/play tournament. |
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Post by soccerloafer on Sept 22, 2022 14:12:19 GMT -5
hmmmm... makes me wonder why others broke off from Georgia Soccer??? it sounds like a delightful experience. Honestly, about as delightful as any stay/play tournament. Checked TripAdvisor for the #1 thing to do in Columbus: 1. Leave |
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Post by bogan on Sept 22, 2022 14:17:40 GMT -5
Honestly, about as delightful as any stay/play tournament. Checked TripAdvisor for the #1 thing to do in Columbus: 1. Leave Can’t disagree but it’s like many of the towns I’ve had the privilege of paying to stay at. |
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Post by baller84 on Sept 22, 2022 17:30:12 GMT -5
How many actually know that State Cup has not been held in Columbus since 2017? It's been held in Atlanta. Most of us hated driving and staying down there. State Sup Director was saying was the only venue with enough fields to keep all together. I begged to differ since some teams still had to go play at CSU (loved that stadium btw those lucky to play there, but not the auxiliary). Ironically they could have held it at Mount Carmel like they do now if they really wanted to keep everyone in one location. But money talked.
As for the breakout GA Soccer was not even relevant enough to matter after DA/ECNL went to full gear. It was a lot more related to the RPL mismanagement at USYS at the time, and (here is the secret and why the diversion) the poor performance of the big clubs not yet deep enough to have 2nd or 3rd competitive teams (except TH) in a league that was still strong. That changed when more leagues started to form after 2017 (including SCCL) that gave those clubs total control.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Sept 22, 2022 21:59:08 GMT -5
How many actually know that State Cup has not been held in Columbus since 2017? It's been held in Atlanta. Most of us hated driving and staying down there. State Sup Director was saying was the only venue with enough fields to keep all together. I begged to differ since some teams still had to go play at CSU (loved that stadium btw those lucky to play there, but not the auxiliary). Ironically they could have held it at Mount Carmel like they do now if they really wanted to keep everyone in one location. But money talked. As for the breakout GA Soccer was not even relevant enough to matter after DA/ECNL went to full gear. It was a lot more related to the RPL mismanagement at USYS at the time, and (here is the secret and why the diversion) the poor performance of the big clubs not yet deep enough to have 2nd or 3rd competitive teams (except TH) in a league that was still strong. That changed when more leagues started to form after 2017 (including SCCL) that gave those clubs total control. Oh boy! Not this again! This was such a huge discussion in the past. Who was deep enough to have multiple very strong teams (2nd or 3rd) so that they could be some competition...not a slaughter. Hoping not to rehash. |
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Post by baller84 on Sept 23, 2022 20:10:20 GMT -5
How many actually know that State Cup has not been held in Columbus since 2017? It's been held in Atlanta. Most of us hated driving and staying down there. State Sup Director was saying was the only venue with enough fields to keep all together. I begged to differ since some teams still had to go play at CSU (loved that stadium btw those lucky to play there, but not the auxiliary). Ironically they could have held it at Mount Carmel like they do now if they really wanted to keep everyone in one location. But money talked. As for the breakout GA Soccer was not even relevant enough to matter after DA/ECNL went to full gear. It was a lot more related to the RPL mismanagement at USYS at the time, and (here is the secret and why the diversion) the poor performance of the big clubs not yet deep enough to have 2nd or 3rd competitive teams (except TH) in a league that was still strong. That changed when more leagues started to form after 2017 (including SCCL) that gave those clubs total control. Oh boy! Not this again! This was such a huge discussion in the past. Who was deep enough to have multiple very strong teams (2nd or 3rd) so that they could be some competition...not a slaughter. Hoping not to rehash. No need. With some great branding and marketing it worked with the shiny league. And surely was for the "good of the game". |
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 24, 2022 0:13:31 GMT -5
I seem to remember a TH White team (third team) making it the State Cup Final Four a few years, beat GSA, Concorde and UFA and their respective ECNL "guest players"
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Post by bogan on Sept 24, 2022 8:10:32 GMT -5
Oh boy! Not this again! This was such a huge discussion in the past. Who was deep enough to have multiple very strong teams (2nd or 3rd) so that they could be some competition...not a slaughter. Hoping not to rehash. No need. With some great branding and marketing it worked with the shiny league. And surely was for the "good of the game". I think the new league solved some problems and created others. As much as folks like to blame GA Soccer, I think the clubs ultimately wanted control and got it. However, I have to admit GA Soccer made it way too easy with poor decisions/leadership. Long before SCCL was a reality, I thought it was silly not to have an Atlanta region…so mid tier teams didn’t have to travel to Waycross one day and Rome the next to play. |
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Post by baller84 on Sept 24, 2022 19:52:45 GMT -5
I seem to remember a TH White team (third team) making it the State Cup Final Four a few years, beat GSA, Concorde and UFA and their respective ECNL "guest players" Many TH 2nd teams were legit with little drop off in talent, sometimes even the 3rd team. Both CF and AFU were notorious for using ECNL players to get their lower teams in R3PL through State Cup to help with recruiting from smaller clubs. Make the semis and you were in R3PL back then (another nonsense criteria rule by Ga Soccer at the time). I don't think GSA did as much of that since they usually went an ECNL over Memorial Day weekend. UFA I think they got ECNL around the time SCCL started when the rest were already gone so they naturally killed it at State Cup that year. |
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