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Post by soccerparentx on Sept 26, 2022 10:14:11 GMT -5
E64 scheduling is a cluster. I can't understand why the schedule isn't locked down with times and places with it already being the Fall. It's like these leagues expect parents to pick up and drop everything to make plans around a fluid soccer schedule.
For the registration fees and travel expenses that are being incurred, the whole thing is unacceptable.
I'm not sure where the fault lies. USYS or the club. Maybe both. Other leagues are better organized.
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Post by Keeper on Sept 26, 2022 11:01:26 GMT -5
E64 scheduling is a cluster. I can't understand why the schedule isn't locked down with times and places with it already being the Fall. It's like these leagues expect parents to pick up and drop everything to make plans around a fluid soccer schedule. For the registration fees and travel expenses that are being incurred, the whole thing is unacceptable. I'm not sure where the fault lies. USYS or the club. Maybe both. Other leagues are better organized. If you’re a soccer family playing at E64 level then yes everything revolves around soccer so of course your weekends are soccer weekends. And the blame is USYS, as this is the same people that runs National League. |
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Post by bogan on Sept 26, 2022 11:37:41 GMT -5
E64 scheduling is a cluster. I can't understand why the schedule isn't locked down with times and places with it already being the Fall. It's like these leagues expect parents to pick up and drop everything to make plans around a fluid soccer schedule. For the registration fees and travel expenses that are being incurred, the whole thing is unacceptable. I'm not sure where the fault lies. USYS or the club. Maybe both. Other leagues are better organized. If you’re a soccer family playing at E64 level then yes everything revolves around soccer so of course your weekends are soccer weekends. And the blame is USYS, as this is the same people that runs National League. Funny thing is that National League has been run pretty flawless this year… |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 26, 2022 11:52:16 GMT -5
If you’re a soccer family playing at E64 level then yes everything revolves around soccer so of course your weekends are soccer weekends. And the blame is USYS, as this is the same people that runs National League. Funny thing is that National League has been run pretty flawless this year… Ha! scheduling years ago was my gripe, we literally would fly to south america for a game against a team from Woodstock...... |
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Post by bogan on Sept 26, 2022 11:57:44 GMT -5
Funny thing is that National League has been run pretty flawless this year… Ha! scheduling years ago was my gripe, we literally would fly to south america for a game against a team from Woodstock...... I remember those days as well. It’s better now…that hasn’t totally disappeared but it’s more rare than it used to be. I noticed when our team went to Wilson NC (500+ miles) there were some local teams playing each other… but it was my understanding that they could reschedule an instate match for another weekend. |
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Post by dabe on Sept 26, 2022 16:11:09 GMT -5
E64 scheduling is a cluster. I can't understand why the schedule isn't locked down with times and places with it already being the Fall. It's like these leagues expect parents to pick up and drop everything to make plans around a fluid soccer schedule. For the registration fees and travel expenses that are being incurred, the whole thing is unacceptable. I'm not sure where the fault lies. USYS or the club. Maybe both. Other leagues are better organized. If you’re a soccer family playing at E64 level then yes everything revolves around soccer so of course your weekends are soccer weekends. And the blame is USYS, as this is the same people that runs National League. Elite 64 is more chaotic than the time I watched my kid play in a 7 v 11 game. My youngest plays ECNL and my oldest plays E64. The issue is not that there are games every weekend. From late August - Mid December I'm marked as busy on every calendar I have. I expect that. The issue with E64 at least in this region is the lack of communication and planning ahead. OLC (girls side) dropped out of E64. Meaning we are down from the original 10 games promised to 8. We are headed to Florida with a TBD on our schedule for the first day. Our club has attempted to makeup for this by adding at least one "E64 Friendly" to the schedule. I assume more will be added. The game is scheduled for early Oct. It's late Sept and we just got the info. NCYFC and CSA are in the middle of their HS season and cannot field a full team for the fall so those games have been moved to Jan. Right about the time that kids here will start HS season. Down from 8 games this fall to 5 as both clubs have dropped out but we gained one through friendlies. I hope that games scheduled for January will happen, though who is to say that it won't be us with player issues? To compare to ECNL. We got her schedule in mid August and it has not changed and there is no talk of it changing. I couldn't even begin to imagine a team dropping out of ECNL because it could not field enough players. GA, NC, and FL three different HS seasons. GA - Spring. NC - Fall. FL - Winter. I don't understand how USYS could have overlooked something that big. Maybe they were under the assumption that players would be dying to play on their teams so they would risk their standing during their HS season. I begin to blame clubs when it comes to the communication of issues. If USYS is having internal issues, let parents know. Don't go along as though everything is alright and then add in games last minute to try and makeup for what USYS screwed up. Parents are fed up (at least on my team). Several have asked for refunds. My kid is one of the most committed players I know. Has never missed a practice or a game. She is talking about quitting. This also has to do with the coach, but that combined with the disorganization of the league is too much for her. |
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Post by Keeper on Sept 26, 2022 17:14:16 GMT -5
If you’re a soccer family playing at E64 level then yes everything revolves around soccer so of course your weekends are soccer weekends. And the blame is USYS, as this is the same people that runs National League. Elite 64 is more chaotic than the time I watched my kid play in a 7 v 11 game. My youngest plays ECNL and my oldest plays E64. The issue is not that there are games every weekend. From late August - Mid December I'm marked as busy on every calendar I have. I expect that. The issue with E64 at least in this region is the lack of communication and planning ahead. OLC (girls side) dropped out of E64. Meaning we are down from the original 10 games promised to 8. We are headed to Florida with a TBD on our schedule for the first day. Our club has attempted to makeup for this by adding at least one "E64 Friendly" to the schedule. I assume more will be added. The game is scheduled for early Oct. It's late Sept and we just got the info. NCYFC and CSA are in the middle of their HS season and cannot field a full team for the fall so those games have been moved to Jan. Right about the time that kids here will start HS season. Down from 8 games this fall to 5 as both clubs have dropped out but we gained one through friendlies. I hope that games scheduled for January will happen, though who is to say that it won't be us with player issues? To compare to ECNL. We got her schedule in mid August and it has not changed and there is no talk of it changing. I couldn't even begin to imagine a team dropping out of ECNL because it could not field enough players. GA, NC, and FL three different HS seasons. GA - Spring. NC - Fall. FL - Winter. I don't understand how USYS could have overlooked something that big. Maybe they were under the assumption that players would be dying to play on their teams so they would risk their standing during their HS season. I begin to blame clubs when it comes to the communication of issues. If USYS is having internal issues, let parents know. Don't go along as though everything is alright and then add in games last minute to try and makeup for what USYS screwed up. Parents are fed up (at least on my team). Several have asked for refunds. My kid is one of the most committed players I know. Has never missed a practice or a game. She is talking about quitting. This also has to do with the coach, but that combined with the disorganization of the league is too much for her. Is the lack of communication USYS or AFU related? ECNL is still the best League around. |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Sept 26, 2022 18:16:38 GMT -5
If you’re a soccer family playing at E64 level then yes everything revolves around soccer so of course your weekends are soccer weekends. And the blame is USYS, as this is the same people that runs National League. Elite 64 is more chaotic than the time I watched my kid play in a 7 v 11 game. My youngest plays ECNL and my oldest plays E64. The issue is not that there are games every weekend. From late August - Mid December I'm marked as busy on every calendar I have. I expect that. The issue with E64 at least in this region is the lack of communication and planning ahead. OLC (girls side) dropped out of E64. Meaning we are down from the original 10 games promised to 8. We are headed to Florida with a TBD on our schedule for the first day. Our club has attempted to makeup for this by adding at least one "E64 Friendly" to the schedule. I assume more will be added. The game is scheduled for early Oct. It's late Sept and we just got the info. NCYFC and CSA are in the middle of their HS season and cannot field a full team for the fall so those games have been moved to Jan. Right about the time that kids here will start HS season. Down from 8 games this fall to 5 as both clubs have dropped out but we gained one through friendlies. I hope that games scheduled for January will happen, though who is to say that it won't be us with player issues? To compare to ECNL. We got her schedule in mid August and it has not changed and there is no talk of it changing. I couldn't even begin to imagine a team dropping out of ECNL because it could not field enough players. GA, NC, and FL three different HS seasons. GA - Spring. NC - Fall. FL - Winter. I don't understand how USYS could have overlooked something that big. Maybe they were under the assumption that players would be dying to play on their teams so they would risk their standing during their HS season. I begin to blame clubs when it comes to the communication of issues. If USYS is having internal issues, let parents know. Don't go along as though everything is alright and then add in games last minute to try and makeup for what USYS screwed up. Parents are fed up (at least on my team). Several have asked for refunds. My kid is one of the most committed players I know. Has never missed a practice or a game. She is talking about quitting. This also has to do with the coach, but that combined with the disorganization of the league is too much for her. Is E64 the only thing on the schedule or is this a supplemental league which is just adding games to the schedule? As for the high school part, I doubt USYS overlooked it. They probably just thought the clubs would convince the players that high school soccer is crap and they need to stick with club all year instead of leaving for the high school season. *** For the record, I don't think high school soccer is crap, that is just the general thought amongst club coaches. We are actually in the position where high school is better for us than club...better players on the team, better commitment, better intensity, etc. Of course the competition isn't always great, but practices every day are head & shoulders better than what we experience at club.*** |
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Post by dabe on Sept 26, 2022 22:02:10 GMT -5
Elite 64 is more chaotic than the time I watched my kid play in a 7 v 11 game. My youngest plays ECNL and my oldest plays E64. The issue is not that there are games every weekend. From late August - Mid December I'm marked as busy on every calendar I have. I expect that. The issue with E64 at least in this region is the lack of communication and planning ahead. OLC (girls side) dropped out of E64. Meaning we are down from the original 10 games promised to 8. We are headed to Florida with a TBD on our schedule for the first day. Our club has attempted to makeup for this by adding at least one "E64 Friendly" to the schedule. I assume more will be added. The game is scheduled for early Oct. It's late Sept and we just got the info. NCYFC and CSA are in the middle of their HS season and cannot field a full team for the fall so those games have been moved to Jan. Right about the time that kids here will start HS season. Down from 8 games this fall to 5 as both clubs have dropped out but we gained one through friendlies. I hope that games scheduled for January will happen, though who is to say that it won't be us with player issues? To compare to ECNL. We got her schedule in mid August and it has not changed and there is no talk of it changing. I couldn't even begin to imagine a team dropping out of ECNL because it could not field enough players. GA, NC, and FL three different HS seasons. GA - Spring. NC - Fall. FL - Winter. I don't understand how USYS could have overlooked something that big. Maybe they were under the assumption that players would be dying to play on their teams so they would risk their standing during their HS season. I begin to blame clubs when it comes to the communication of issues. If USYS is having internal issues, let parents know. Don't go along as though everything is alright and then add in games last minute to try and makeup for what USYS screwed up. Parents are fed up (at least on my team). Several have asked for refunds. My kid is one of the most committed players I know. Has never missed a practice or a game. She is talking about quitting. This also has to do with the coach, but that combined with the disorganization of the league is too much for her. Is the lack of communication USYS or AFU related? ECNL is still the best League around. She plays for Norcross. I would say the issue with communication mainly lies with the coach, so club. On the other hand the league majorly screwed up scheduling and were unable to keep OLC teams interested. All said and done, I'm not part of internal club communication so perhaps USYS is not getting info out as soon as they need to. My youngest plays ECNL at AFU and it's by far the most organized team she has ever been a part of. Haven't had an issue yet. |
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Post by dabe on Sept 26, 2022 22:11:06 GMT -5
Elite 64 is more chaotic than the time I watched my kid play in a 7 v 11 game. My youngest plays ECNL and my oldest plays E64. The issue is not that there are games every weekend. From late August - Mid December I'm marked as busy on every calendar I have. I expect that. The issue with E64 at least in this region is the lack of communication and planning ahead. OLC (girls side) dropped out of E64. Meaning we are down from the original 10 games promised to 8. We are headed to Florida with a TBD on our schedule for the first day. Our club has attempted to makeup for this by adding at least one "E64 Friendly" to the schedule. I assume more will be added. The game is scheduled for early Oct. It's late Sept and we just got the info. NCYFC and CSA are in the middle of their HS season and cannot field a full team for the fall so those games have been moved to Jan. Right about the time that kids here will start HS season. Down from 8 games this fall to 5 as both clubs have dropped out but we gained one through friendlies. I hope that games scheduled for January will happen, though who is to say that it won't be us with player issues? To compare to ECNL. We got her schedule in mid August and it has not changed and there is no talk of it changing. I couldn't even begin to imagine a team dropping out of ECNL because it could not field enough players. GA, NC, and FL three different HS seasons. GA - Spring. NC - Fall. FL - Winter. I don't understand how USYS could have overlooked something that big. Maybe they were under the assumption that players would be dying to play on their teams so they would risk their standing during their HS season. I begin to blame clubs when it comes to the communication of issues. If USYS is having internal issues, let parents know. Don't go along as though everything is alright and then add in games last minute to try and makeup for what USYS screwed up. Parents are fed up (at least on my team). Several have asked for refunds. My kid is one of the most committed players I know. Has never missed a practice or a game. She is talking about quitting. This also has to do with the coach, but that combined with the disorganization of the league is too much for her. Is E64 the only thing on the schedule or is this a supplemental league which is just adding games to the schedule? As for the high school part, I doubt USYS overlooked it. They probably just thought the clubs would convince the players that high school soccer is crap and they need to stick with club all year instead of leaving for the high school season. *** For the record, I don't think high school soccer is crap, that is just the general thought amongst club coaches. We are actually in the position where high school is better for us than club...better players on the team, better commitment, better intensity, etc. Of course the competition isn't always great, but practices every day are head & shoulders better than what we experience at club.*** We're doing E64 as the only thing on the schedule. Which may be why there are so many issues. I wouldn't care if E64 games got cancelled it we were guaranteed other games through SCCL or something other. I agree. HS is great! We have a few players on our team that made it pretty far in playoffs during HS season. They've already made it clear they aren't going to be available in the spring. |
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Post by soccerparentx on Sept 27, 2022 10:58:09 GMT -5
Elite 64 is more chaotic than the time I watched my kid play in a 7 v 11 game. My youngest plays ECNL and my oldest plays E64. The issue is not that there are games every weekend. From late August - Mid December I'm marked as busy on every calendar I have. I expect that. The issue with E64 at least in this region is the lack of communication and planning ahead. OLC (girls side) dropped out of E64. Meaning we are down from the original 10 games promised to 8. We are headed to Florida with a TBD on our schedule for the first day. Our club has attempted to makeup for this by adding at least one "E64 Friendly" to the schedule. I assume more will be added. The game is scheduled for early Oct. It's late Sept and we just got the info. NCYFC and CSA are in the middle of their HS season and cannot field a full team for the fall so those games have been moved to Jan. Right about the time that kids here will start HS season. Down from 8 games this fall to 5 as both clubs have dropped out but we gained one through friendlies. I hope that games scheduled for January will happen, though who is to say that it won't be us with player issues? To compare to ECNL. We got her schedule in mid August and it has not changed and there is no talk of it changing. I couldn't even begin to imagine a team dropping out of ECNL because it could not field enough players. GA, NC, and FL three different HS seasons. GA - Spring. NC - Fall. FL - Winter. I don't understand how USYS could have overlooked something that big. Maybe they were under the assumption that players would be dying to play on their teams so they would risk their standing during their HS season. I begin to blame clubs when it comes to the communication of issues. If USYS is having internal issues, let parents know. Don't go along as though everything is alright and then add in games last minute to try and makeup for what USYS screwed up. Parents are fed up (at least on my team). Several have asked for refunds. My kid is one of the most committed players I know. Has never missed a practice or a game. She is talking about quitting. This also has to do with the coach, but that combined with the disorganization of the league is too much for her. Is E64 the only thing on the schedule or is this a supplemental league which is just adding games to the schedule? As for the high school part, I doubt USYS overlooked it. They probably just thought the clubs would convince the players that high school soccer is crap and they need to stick with club all year instead of leaving for the high school season. *** For the record, I don't think high school soccer is crap, that is just the general thought amongst club coaches. We are actually in the position where high school is better for us than club...better players on the team, better commitment, better intensity, etc. Of course the competition isn't always great, but practices every day are head & shoulders better than what we experience at club.*** Yep. That's pretty much our sentiment. There aren't a lot of games and USYS with the Clubs can't seem to get the schedules together. It looks like a lot of clubs, because they had already locked down the incumbent teams, treated E64 as extracurricular. Unfortunately for those club locations (e.g., Norcross) that are more formalized and had pretty solid teams, they got shafted with ECNL fees, travel expenses, and less games. So awesome... |
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Post by soccerparent02 on Sept 27, 2022 11:55:24 GMT -5
Would disagree that parents and players were "shafted" with ECNL. Our kid had a great experience with ECNL and playoffs. Travel is understood if you are playing beyond rec even for lower leagues. There used to be a saying that said something like "to be the best, you've got to beat the best." Beyond the Big 5 or 6, that means traveling outside Atlanta Metro.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Sept 27, 2022 12:12:42 GMT -5
I had heard that several clubs that had E64 were using it as a supplemental league and it is unfortunate that Norcross was set up with only those games.
I think it will get better and more organized with time.
We have a child on an NL team this year and it has been very organized and nice. We have played in other top leagues and it has been as organized but doesn't have tents for all games like I expected. Scheduling has been good.
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Post by rifle on Sept 27, 2022 17:28:43 GMT -5
Is E64 the only thing on the schedule or is this a supplemental league which is just adding games to the schedule? As for the high school part, I doubt USYS overlooked it. They probably just thought the clubs would convince the players that high school soccer is crap and they need to stick with club all year instead of leaving for the high school season. *** For the record, I don't think high school soccer is crap, that is just the general thought amongst club coaches. We are actually in the position where high school is better for us than club...better players on the team, better commitment, better intensity, etc. Of course the competition isn't always great, but practices every day are head & shoulders better than what we experience at club.*** Yep. That's pretty much our sentiment. There aren't a lot of games and USYS with the Clubs can't seem to get the schedules together. It looks like a lot of clubs, because they had already locked down the incumbent teams, treated E64 as extracurricular. Unfortunately for those club locations (e.g., Norcross) that are more formalized and had pretty solid teams, they got shafted with ECNL fees, travel expenses, and less games. So awesome... is your kid’s team ONLY playing E64? |
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Post by Keeper on Sept 27, 2022 22:24:32 GMT -5
Pretty sure E64 is suppose to be a supplemental league like the old NPL days. 7-8 games in between SCCL/ECRL type seasons to get USClub players back in the USYS system.
Quote from E64 site,
“Up to 14 league games over a 10-month season, with a schedule created to aid a player’s periodization and involvement in high school soccer.”
So I wouldn’t be surprised to see 5-6 in the Fall, 3-4 in January and then 3-4 in April/May/June.
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Post by soccerparentx on Sept 28, 2022 7:44:56 GMT -5
Yep. That's pretty much our sentiment. There aren't a lot of games and USYS with the Clubs can't seem to get the schedules together. It looks like a lot of clubs, because they had already locked down the incumbent teams, treated E64 as extracurricular. Unfortunately for those club locations (e.g., Norcross) that are more formalized and had pretty solid teams, they got shafted with ECNL fees, travel expenses, and less games. So awesome... is your kid’s team ONLY playing E64? Yes. I guess I wanted to believe that supplemental meant more than just extra games since we're paying ECNL prices and incurring similar travel expenses. This league might be over before it starts... |
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Post by BubbleDad on Oct 2, 2022 22:21:55 GMT -5
Where does E64 fall in the league pecking order ... is it above or below SCCL, ECRL/ECNL-R?
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Post by soccerparentx on Oct 3, 2022 8:31:39 GMT -5
Where does E64 fall in the league pecking order ... is it above or below SCCL, ECRL/ECNL-R? Based on the level of soccer we've seen so far from teams not in GA, maybe YMCA? |
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Post by randomparent on Oct 3, 2022 19:25:57 GMT -5
Where does E64 fall in the league pecking order ... is it above or below SCCL, ECRL/ECNL-R? Somewhere in there. Basically since there is no pro/rel and leagues are disparate and there are more good kids than leagues its a place to sell the dream. Dedicated E64 teams have beaten top 3 ECRL teams this season by 4 or 5 goals each. About the same as when those ECRL teams played ECNL teams. Like anything though, there is a drop off across the entire league with the worst E64 teams being significantly worse than the worse ECRL teams. I would say in some ways similar to top 1 or 2 SCCL teams in each age group will beat the bottom 60% of ECRL teams, the top ECRL teams will be the bottom ECNL teams. Looking at U12, top teams for most part of what you would expect ATL, LSA, SSA, Nasa. Bottom two u12 teams are ECNL teams next year, UFA and Atlanta Fire with a lot of teams in between. |
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