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Post by hotspur1 on Oct 6, 2022 15:56:52 GMT -5
You need to watch a higher level of soccer. Go watch some ECNL/MLS Next games(I didn’t say GA because there are only 2 decent teams in the conference and not many more in the league) if you want to see how the game is played and how physical it can be. I didn’t see many missed calls and if anything some that were called fouls shouldn’t have been. Or better yet, any college match. You can see them almost any day of the week live via TV or YouTube. This reminds me of watching my daughter play in academy and early teen years. She was very tall and fast for her age. Every time she went shoulder to shoulder it was a mismatch for about 80% of her opponents. Listening to the sideline freak out as she was able to win balls was hilarious. Big mean tall girl fouling the little girl…. Edited to add, I agree with the earlier poster. Anyone that thinks Toohat is a physical club doesn’t know youth soccer. God help them if they play SSA and Concorde. |
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Post by justhavefun on Oct 6, 2022 16:30:11 GMT -5
We are all kinda piling on, but they probably should not have come into a Georgia forum ( from Alabama none the less.  ) and posted this. Soccer is definitely a physical sport. My eldest daughter played at TH and I think we drove a lot of our opponents parents to drink but never create a video like this. This is very good quality though. Good luck to those playing this weekend. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Oct 6, 2022 16:50:56 GMT -5
You need to watch a higher level of soccer. Go watch some ECNL/MLS Next games(I didn’t say GA because there are only 2 decent teams in the conference and not many more in the league) if you want to see how the game is played and how physical it can be. I didn’t see many missed calls and if anything some that were called fouls shouldn’t have been. I have to say if u think there are only 2 decent teams in the conference then you don't watch GA soccer. There are well more than "not many more " in the league too. Each age group is a little different. Some Tophat and Florida United are the best. Sometimes IMG is too. Sometimes United Soccer Alliance. Some ages it is a different club. This is the second dissing of a league in this post. DPL was dissed earlier. The guy obviously doesn't have a lot experience watching high level soccer but that doesn't mean we should side track into dissing leagues that are here in Georgia. One of my kids played at a GA club and one is at am ECNL club. The game is good at the highest levels in both leagues and at U17 and U19 several leagues have very strong players and teams. |
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on Oct 6, 2022 17:20:01 GMT -5
You need to watch a higher level of soccer. Go watch some ECNL/MLS Next games(I didn’t say GA because there are only 2 decent teams in the conference and not many more in the league) if you want to see how the game is played and how physical it can be. I didn’t see many missed calls and if anything some that were called fouls shouldn’t have been. I have to say if u think there are only 2 decent teams in the conference then you don't watch GA soccer. There are well more than "not many more " in the league too. Each age group is a little different. Some Tophat and Florida United are the best. Sometimes IMG is too. Sometimes United Soccer Alliance. Some ages it is a different club. This is the second dissing of a league in this post. DPL was dissed earlier. The guy obviously doesn't have a lot experience watching high level soccer but that doesn't mean we should side track into dissing leagues that are here in Georgia. One of my kids played at a GA club and one is at am ECNL club. The game is good at the highest levels in both leagues and at U17 and U19 several leagues have very strong players and teams. I’ve had people playing in GA tell me they wished there was more competition than a few teams. Just passing along others opinions. |
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Post by soccerloafer on Oct 6, 2022 18:55:26 GMT -5
Funny how the video is now private...
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Post by triffling on Oct 7, 2022 10:19:19 GMT -5
I think that we can all agree that regardless of league (GA/ECNL/MLS/ECNlR/SCCL)
Alabama teams are weak and their parents weaker.
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Post by triffling on Oct 7, 2022 10:20:17 GMT -5
Also looks like the guy took his video private…guess someone said something to him.
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Post by georgiatechalum on Oct 7, 2022 11:13:46 GMT -5
Been around the youth soccer scene for more than 20 years. Alabama parents are always the funniest. An average game for them has 47 penalties, 7 hand balls, 3 red card infractions… and none ever against their team. Lol
Enjoy the beautiful weather this weekend.
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Post by magicdwarf on Oct 14, 2022 8:33:56 GMT -5
Just wondering:
How well are the GA referees trained?
Were there no issues with GA referees in the past whom always made sure their home team won?
As a parent it is frustrating to see every week a referee or AR's mess up a game, not knowing the rules or giving his/ her own spin to why he makes certain calls and others not?
Hand balls in the 18y not given
Off sides not given or called by the AR's
Direct freekicks in front of the 18 for the home team, while the same foul is not given on the other side
Referees showing up at the field in club jersey prior to the game
AR's making the wrong calls
It ruins the game, gives players & parents a bad taste and has an effect on the outcome of the game and the standings.
Over time kids see the same referee show up at the field and recognize the referee and tell each other "Guess we are gonna loose today/ No calls for our team today". This after driving 2 - 5 hours for a game.
Based on the above mentioned history, I can understand janding's frustration
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Post by triffling on Oct 14, 2022 13:42:34 GMT -5
Just wondering: How well are the GA referees trained? Were there no issues with GA referees in the past whom always made sure their home team won? As a parent it is frustrating to see every week a referee or AR's mess up a game, not knowing the rules or giving his/ her own spin to why he makes certain calls and others not? Hand balls in the 18y not given Off sides not given or called by the AR's Direct freekicks in front of the 18 for the home team, while the same foul is not given on the other side Referees showing up at the field in club jersey prior to the game AR's making the wrong calls It ruins the game, gives players & parents a bad taste and has an effect on the outcome of the game and the standings. Over time kids see the same referee show up at the field and recognize the referee and tell each other "Guess we are gonna loose today/ No calls for our team today". This after driving 2 - 5 hours for a game. Based on the above mentioned history, I can understand janding's frustration Wah, wah, wah 😫 For the record, referees in GA get the same training as referees in AL and other states. For the record, ignorant parents in every sport have complained about homer referees for ever. For the record, your son or daughter has never played a perfect game and no referee has ever done a perfect job refereeing. Guess what, lots of teenage players also referee, so you are going to see a teenager finish playing and then change into a referee uniform. But my gosh, if you find all of this to be troubling and are so wise as to what calls are being missed, why don’t you sign up for a referee class and show us how it’s done. |
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Post by magicdwarf on Oct 14, 2022 16:18:14 GMT -5
triffling, your not answering the actual question:
How well are the GA referees trained?
Lots of defensive words from people whom are affiliated I guess, with refs or are refs themselves.
Is it in GA a 1 Saturday course and you can Ref?
Is it the clubs or GA State that appoints referees?
Are the first games of each ref monitored? and afterwards reviewed... to hone their skills and keep them neutral.
What does GA do with referees that do not "feel" the game or have had an incident report?
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Post by triffling on Oct 14, 2022 18:17:37 GMT -5
triffling, your not answering the actual question: How well are the GA referees trained? Lots of defensive words from people whom are affiliated I guess, with refs or are refs themselves. Is it in GA a 1 Saturday course and you can Ref? Is it the clubs or GA State that appoints referees? Are the first games of each ref monitored? and afterwards reviewed... to hone their skills and keep them neutral. What does GA do with referees that do not "feel" the game or have had an incident report? Oh Dwarf. Refs receive the same training as your Alabama referees. For ECNL, they are assigned the same way as your Hoover refs are. Again, if you think you can do better, go take a course and let us know in about 5 years how you are doing as a referee. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Oct 15, 2022 15:29:27 GMT -5
triffling, your not answering the actual question: How well are the GA referees trained? Lots of defensive words from people whom are affiliated I guess, with refs or are refs themselves. Is it in GA a 1 Saturday course and you can Ref? Is it the clubs or GA State that appoints referees? Are the first games of each ref monitored? and afterwards reviewed... to hone their skills and keep them neutral. What does GA do with referees that do not "feel" the game or have had an incident report? Whether the refs are "honed" and reviewed depends on the assignors. I know UFA assignors had ref classes during the week for the refs to get further instruction and checking. They also watched them ref. More experienced CR's would eval AR's and recommend for higher and higher level (age-appropriate) assignments. But my child has not done much in the last 2 years because she has been traveling so much for her own soccer and camps and recruiting and frankly got a bit burned out. She was recommended for higher level gigs quickly, but once she got her license she was even less likely to ref. There is a MAJOR shortage. I still get TONS AND TONS AND TONS of email requests for her to take games, but she is done. My hope is that she will take it back up in college since it is pretty flexible way to make money around a college schedule. |
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Post by triffling on Oct 15, 2022 18:55:15 GMT -5
triffling, your not answering the actual question: How well are the GA referees trained? Lots of defensive words from people whom are affiliated I guess, with refs or are refs themselves. Is it in GA a 1 Saturday course and you can Ref? Is it the clubs or GA State that appoints referees? Are the first games of each ref monitored? and afterwards reviewed... to hone their skills and keep them neutral. What does GA do with referees that do not "feel" the game or have had an incident report? Whether the refs are "honed" and reviewed depends on the assignors. I know UFA assignors had ref classes during the week for the refs to get further instruction and checking. They also watched them ref. More experienced CR's would eval AR's and recommend for higher and higher level (age-appropriate) assignments. But my child has not done much in the last 2 years because she has been traveling so much for her own soccer and camps and recruiting and frankly got a bit burned out. She was recommended for higher level gigs quickly, but once she got her license she was even less likely to ref. There is a MAJOR shortage. I still get TONS AND TONS AND TONS of email requests for her to take games, but she is done. My hope is that she will take it back up in college since it is pretty flexible way to make money around a college schedule. I don’t know any assignors who assign people to center ECNL games who are not experienced referees. That said, ECNL is not the old US Soccer DA where referees were assigned by Federation level assignors. As for whether GA referees are trained and “honed” each assignor I know provides mentors and feedback to younger referees. oraclesfriend - I highly recommend reffing in college for your daughter. It’s easy money and lots of good opportunities for games and to officiate at a level that they may not be able to achieve as a player. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Oct 15, 2022 20:04:16 GMT -5
Whether the refs are "honed" and reviewed depends on the assignors. I know UFA assignors had ref classes during the week for the refs to get further instruction and checking. They also watched them ref. More experienced CR's would eval AR's and recommend for higher and higher level (age-appropriate) assignments. But my child has not done much in the last 2 years because she has been traveling so much for her own soccer and camps and recruiting and frankly got a bit burned out. She was recommended for higher level gigs quickly, but once she got her license she was even less likely to ref. There is a MAJOR shortage. I still get TONS AND TONS AND TONS of email requests for her to take games, but she is done. My hope is that she will take it back up in college since it is pretty flexible way to make money around a college schedule. I don’t know any assignors who assign people to center ECNL games who are not experienced referees. That said, ECNL is not the old US Soccer DA where referees were assigned by Federation level assignors. As for whether GA referees are trained and “honed” each assignor I know provides mentors and feedback to younger referees. oraclesfriend - I highly recommend reffing in college for your daughter. It’s easy money and lots of good opportunities for games and to officiate at a level that they may not be able to achieve as a player. Well she will be in another state so it will be a new certification again. Not sure if they will honor the Georgia license next fall in another state. I guess that is a good question to ask for 2023 |
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Post by triffling on Oct 16, 2022 7:51:32 GMT -5
I don’t know any assignors who assign people to center ECNL games who are not experienced referees. That said, ECNL is not the old US Soccer DA where referees were assigned by Federation level assignors. As for whether GA referees are trained and “honed” each assignor I know provides mentors and feedback to younger referees. oraclesfriend - I highly recommend reffing in college for your daughter. It’s easy money and lots of good opportunities for games and to officiate at a level that they may not be able to achieve as a player. Well she will be in another state so it will be a new certification again. Not sure if they will honor the Georgia license next fall in another state. I guess that is a good question to ask for 2023 As long as her certifications are current, she shouldn’t have any problem. At most, they will ask for her to request a letter of good standing from GA Soccer, which is proforma. If she has to recertify, do it here then transfer there. |
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Post by notcrazysoccerdad on Oct 16, 2022 17:04:12 GMT -5
triffling, your not answering the actual question: How well are the GA referees trained? Lots of defensive words from people whom are affiliated I guess, with refs or are refs themselves. Is it in GA a 1 Saturday course and you can Ref? Is it the clubs or GA State that appoints referees? Are the first games of each ref monitored? and afterwards reviewed... to hone their skills and keep them neutral. What does GA do with referees that do not "feel" the game or have had an incident report? If only there was some way for you to find this information as you ask your totally unbiased question. Oh look! www.georgiasoccer.org/referees/become-a-us-soccer-referee/PS: *you're |
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Post by georgiatechalum on Oct 21, 2022 10:13:53 GMT -5
Just wondering: How well are the GA referees trained? Were there no issues with GA referees in the past whom always made sure their home team won? As a parent it is frustrating to see every week a referee or AR's mess up a game, not knowing the rules or giving his/ her own spin to why he makes certain calls and others not? Hand balls in the 18y not given Off sides not given or called by the AR's Direct freekicks in front of the 18 for the home team, while the same foul is not given on the other side Referees showing up at the field in club jersey prior to the game AR's making the wrong calls It ruins the game, gives players & parents a bad taste and has an effect on the outcome of the game and the standings. Over time kids see the same referee show up at the field and recognize the referee and tell each other "Guess we are gonna loose today/ No calls for our team today". This after driving 2 - 5 hours for a game. Based on the above mentioned history, I can understand janding's frustration Wah, wah, wah 😫 For the record, referees in GA get the same training as referees in AL and other states. For the record, ignorant parents in every sport have complained about homer referees for ever. For the record, your son or daughter has never played a perfect game and no referee has ever done a perfect job refereeing. Guess what, lots of teenage players also referee, so you are going to see a teenager finish playing and then change into a referee uniform. But my gosh, if you find all of this to be troubling and are so wise as to what calls are being missed, why don’t you sign up for a referee class and show us how it’s done. |
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Post by georgiatechalum on Oct 21, 2022 10:18:53 GMT -5
I think every parent should have a child ref. ( said a bit tongue & check) It will give you new perspective. Years ago I used probably shout at refs more than I should have until my daughter started to ref. That gave me a whole different perspective as I would hear parents yell at her. It changed how I reacted to refs from that day on.
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) and posted this. Soccer is definitely a physical sport. My eldest daughter played at TH and I think we drove a lot of our opponents parents to drink but never create a video like this. This is very good quality though. Good luck to those playing this weekend. 
