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Post by disheartenedparent on Aug 28, 2023 14:59:36 GMT -5
That wasn't my point at all. I was never stating the TM was involved, or should be involved, other that to report it with the "see something, say something" motto. I was simply stating that incidents like this ARE a high priority and that they make coaches and TM's take a lengthy course and background check to try and eliminate as many potential chances as possible for this to occur. As someone else said when quoting my original post, that doesn't mean it will change an individual's deranged views who is intent on committing such actions. However, it's also not for a lack of caring by the club or organization, that these things might wind up happening, even with all of the precautions. And you are right, it will be handled by law enforcement when reported. As for why he would be allowed to continue with two other teams, while being removed from just one, is a bit baffling to me. As someone else mentioned, if it's possibly harmful to one team, I don't see why it wouldn't be for the others. I'm guessing lawyers for the club have been contacted and not much more is being officially stated (due to possible legal ramifications) until they are allowed. But it sure allows for rumor and innuendo to run rampant. I am familiar with the Tophat situation. We also had another coach there that got complaints for similar “abusive” language. Both of those coaches at some point told players they should kill themselves. The second coach never had enough complaints to rise to the level of removal because several of the girls refrained from telling their parents until after the situation was over (they quit soccer or left the club). IT IS HARD for these kids to come forward. They are scared of being ridiculed or losing scholarships like others have said. It likely means the girls are reasonably close so they told each other and then they felt comfortable knowing they weren’t the only ones. I was also at another club that suspended a coach from player contact on ALL teams when he was under investigation for an event that happened with a player that may or may not have even been on his team. It was supposedly at private training. This is the appropriate action. I am also familiar I think this is getting a little off track. The situation with James shouldn't be lumped into any other coach's charades. Coaches at every single club in every sport, especially the highest level teams, speak to players in ways that may not be pleasant or friendly. While I am not condoning any "abusive" language, that is much different than the issues being discussed with James. Hopefully it will be revealed soon if he was in fact told to leave. And more importantly, I hope the real issue is addressed and he is banned from coaching and associating with young girls, instead of just passing him on to the next club and new set of victims. His behavior is horrible and does have history. I don’t know that you can compare various coaches’ behavior, but I do think you can compare the CLUBS’ reaction to it. THAT was the point of MY post. In case you missed it the point is that if someone is being investigated for their behavior with players of any team and they are removed from that team during an investigation they SHOULD be removed from ALL teams. UFA should (and I guess maybe has now) remove him from ALL contact with players during an investigation. Abuse, regardless of the age of the players or the type of abuse, should be grounds for a consistent response. Allowing coaches to stay with the team(s) that are not complaining allows for more potential victims and also SENDS A BAD MESSAGE. The most important thing is the safety of the kids. Keep them safe and let them know that you BELIEVE them. Finally coaches need to be reported to Safe Sport, their clubs, their leagues, US Soccer and the state associations. Everyone should know who these bad apples are to keep them away from kids! BTW I don’t think you meant “charades.” But these other coaches were not just being unfriendly. Abusive language and actions are abuse regardless of type. All of these truly bad (not just strict) people need to be gone! |
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Post by atlantagray on Aug 28, 2023 15:00:13 GMT -5
"Iggy is king POS and knew what he was hiring. He should be held equally accountable. If parents weren’t delusional they should jump ship and watch the club crumble." What the heck is wrong with you? Because you are angry at the UFA owner, and disgusted with the director, you are calling the parents at UFA delusional? We are not delusional. Do me a favor, and read back through this thread and look at all the coaches all over at all clubs and you will find more places than UFA have issues similar to this. Before you say we are delusional (defined as having faulty judgement), ask yourself who the people are with faulty judgement. Is the parents who have chosen to stay at a club with mostly great coaches and great parents- as opposed to driving to another club chasing a dream our own children don't even want? I don't call them delusional because they are doing what their child wants to do. For some of us, this is the closest club to our homes. For some of us, we work and cannot drive our kids 45 minutes or over an hour for practice. Is it the people who hop from club to club? I don't call them delusional, because they are choosing to do something for their kids that they feel is best for them- and showing their kids that others may find more value in them than the current place they are playing. Is it the kids staying at the same club showing loyalty in hopes to move up to the higher team? I don't call them delusional because they are teaching their kids GRIT. Are you saying the parents who trusted their kids to be around a grown man hired by UFA and then found out later that the relationships consisted of grooming behavior- are delusional? I sure as hell hope not, because now you are victim blaming. SO WHY DO YOU FEEL YOU CAN CALL THE PARENTS AT UFA DELUSIONAL?  We are out here doing what every parent is doing- paying fees- watching our kids grow- making friends- and enjoying the game. You are a horrible person to wish a club to crumble along with all the memberships. You are a horrible person to wish failure on others because you had a bad experience. Youth soccer is about way more than what is discussed on this soccer forum, and if the best way to provide my child with a youth soccer experience is to stay close to my work and home, then I am not delusional...I am actually a person with good judgment. QUIT NAME CALLING PARENTS AND SLAMMING CLUBS. This is about a man who has managed to have no official legal reporting (and should have) of bad behavior to the police or ECNL in his past and is able to get hired based on his ability to connect kids to colleges. It is a horrible situation. I am tired of the "I made a better choice than you did," attitude that people have on here. We are all doing the best we can. Is my daughter affected by this- ABSOLUTELY. Am I slamming ALL THE COACHES AND PARENTS because of it? No. If we, as parents, chose to allow our kids to participate in competitive soccer in Atlanta, I'd say we're all in the same boat and need to question our life choices. lol |
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Post by SoccerMom on Aug 28, 2023 16:13:26 GMT -5
3 pages of a lot of assumptions and opinions. Many personal grudges too.
If you're not privvy to either side of the situation is best to stay silent and wait to see what happens instead of pointing fingers
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Post by atlsoccer123 on Aug 28, 2023 16:52:57 GMT -5
I hit the shortcut when you posted and it still had JH listed. JH got wiped off of 'College Preparation' since your post . . . . somebody is monitoring / watching closely. As they should be. |
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Post by futboldad1 on Aug 28, 2023 17:27:12 GMT -5
3 pages of a lot of assumptions and opinions. Many personal grudges too. If you're not privvy to either side of the situation is best to stay silent and wait to see what happens instead of pointing fingers And it seems like people are signing in under different logons and taking both sides of arguments? I'm new to this site, so I don't what the ethics are here. BUT, besides that . . . we have one girl that just joined UFA select this season and it has been a great experience thus far. Awesome coach . . . the players are NICE (!!), very welcoming, encouraging and they want to help each other develop. The parents are down to Earth . . . and they really don't care about what kind of car you drive. I know that familiarity breeds content, but my daughter has been welcomed with open arms and she is once again just ecstatic about playing soccer . . . that's all I can ask for. BUT, we are going to have a sit down with her because of this issue. And this will not be a new topic for her because we have discussed this with all of them since they were able to rationalize the possibility of something like this. Just because some bad decisions were made and a blind eye turned doesn't mean the the whole s-house is coming down. the players, COACHES, and parents make the club . . . and the money (almost forgot). |
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Post by atlantagray on Aug 28, 2023 20:04:52 GMT -5
It's good to hear that you're contempt at UFA
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Post by atlantagray on Aug 29, 2023 6:31:19 GMT -5
It's good to hear that you're contempt at UFA First, I think you meant content, not contempt. Second, we all need to focus on support our UFA soccer community right now. The families affected by this need our support and we all know that, but for the grace of [insert name here] go I. This could have been your child, or mine. We can bash UFA at a later date if they choose to ignore it and cover it up. For now, lets see what they do, and give the families the support they need. thanks for the grammar correction. sometimes it's like the blind leading the mime in this forum. |
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Post by soccer_uber_driver on Aug 29, 2023 6:31:24 GMT -5
Seems to me that maybe the name of this thread should change to "Ex-UFA ECNL Director" (or start a different 'new' one...) ?
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Post by futboldad1 on Aug 29, 2023 7:43:28 GMT -5
It's good to hear that you're contempt at UFA First, I think you meant content, not contempt. Second, we all need to focus on support our UFA soccer community right now. The families affected by this need our support and we all know that, but for the grace of [insert name here] go I. This could have been your child, or mine. We can bash UFA at a later date if they choose to ignore it and cover it up. For now, lets see what they do, and give the families the support they need. Yes . . . "familiarity breeds contempt" was the phrase that was the message. darned Freud and fingers/typos. the message was let's get over this and people who would like to burn the UFA house down because it will eliminate competition or some other need they have is not the right course of action. it's not the problem, it's how you deal with it (of course). |
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Post by soccergurl on Aug 29, 2023 7:49:10 GMT -5
|me tink Rafiq Sabir new 08g coach 4 ufa|
|me tink Renata Pexioto new 07g coach 4 ufa|
|me tink Alan Woods new 06g coach 4 ufa|
|me tink 4-ma coach now office secretary|
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 29, 2023 8:00:19 GMT -5
|me tink Rafiq Sabir new 08g coach 4 ufa| |me tink Renata Pexioto new 07g coach 4 ufa| |me tink Alan Woods new 06g coach 4 ufa| |me tink 4-ma coach now office secretary| Hate that it’s under these circumstances but I’m very happy for Renata that she’s getting this opportunity to coach ECNL. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 29, 2023 8:10:37 GMT -5
|me tink Rafiq Sabir new 08g coach 4 ufa| |me tink Renata Pexioto new 07g coach 4 ufa| |me tink Alan Woods new 06g coach 4 ufa| |me tink 4-ma coach now office secretary| Hate that it’s under these circumstances but I’m very happy for Renata that she’s getting this opportunity to coach ECNL. I have to second this. Should have been given a chance years ago. That team will tactically, physically and mentally get better, and they will love her for it. Great choice... |
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Post by soccer_uber_driver on Aug 29, 2023 9:28:05 GMT -5
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Post by misssocceratl on Aug 29, 2023 10:13:09 GMT -5
I’d rather they worry about the issue, rather than scrubbing every internal and external website page. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 29, 2023 10:14:23 GMT -5
That means nothing. Soccer clubs are notorious for not updating their websites. UFA is no different in this regard. |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Aug 29, 2023 14:04:53 GMT -5
Not surprising on the ECNL side of things. Other than scores, they typically do a data dump at the beginning of the season, then an update a few months down the road. |
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Post by futboldad1 on Aug 29, 2023 14:49:29 GMT -5
Hate that it’s under these circumstances but I’m very happy for Renata that she’s getting this opportunity to coach ECNL. I have to second this. Should have been given a chance years ago. That team will tactically, physically and mentally get better, and they will love her for it. Great choice... No way!! Renata needs to stay with the 09G's. Sorry I'm self-centered. Did I just tip my hand ? LOL!! Maybe I should gaslight the group like so many others have in this thread. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 29, 2023 15:34:19 GMT -5
I have to second this. Should have been given a chance years ago. That team will tactically, physically and mentally get better, and they will love her for it. Great choice... No way!! Renata needs to stay with the 09G's. Sorry I'm self-centered. Did I just tip my hand ? LOL!! Maybe I should gaslight the group like so many others have in this thread. I have to think she’s keeping that group although I do know that the ECNL and ECRL schedules don’t sync up so the ECRL team may get the short end of the stick when there’s a conflict. I was her TM for two years at Norcross, she was fantastic. |
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Post by soccer1320 on Aug 29, 2023 20:48:02 GMT -5
Renata is keeping both teams. Training will stay the same. Few conflicts. She is loyal AF to her players, and will stretch herself thin to make it work. I only hope the parents all appreciate all she does to make it work.
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Post by jamsoccer on Aug 31, 2023 9:39:33 GMT -5
Renata is keeping both teams. Training will stay the same. Few conflicts. She is loyal AF to her players, and will stretch herself thin to make it work. I only hope the parents all appreciate all she does to make it work. every other team at u-17 might as well forfeit their game v ufa 🤣 she is a great coach and ufa 07s were already dominate last season- terrible circumstances- good outcome for renata and ultimately the players. hope everyone gets along bc 4 coaches in 1 year would be really unfair for the team |
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We are out here doing what every parent is doing- paying fees- watching our kids grow- making friends- and enjoying the game.
