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Post by footyfame on Apr 16, 2023 14:26:37 GMT -5
In Girls Ecnl after the season is over can you play on another team's playoff roster?
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 16, 2023 16:45:01 GMT -5
YES...
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on Apr 16, 2023 18:53:03 GMT -5
Kind of an awkward time. More reason tryouts should be after playoffs/nationals at the end of summer. A team could be in the playoffs or nationals a month after tryouts and a good % of team could be gone for various reasons but they are expected to play for the former team?
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Post by 04gparent on Apr 17, 2023 11:01:47 GMT -5
Kind of an awkward time. More reason tryouts should be after playoffs/nationals at the end of summer. A team could be in the playoffs or nationals a month after tryouts and a good % of team could be gone for various reasons but they are expected to play for the former team? This rule has been around for forever... Even before ECNL when the top teams would earn their way into regionals in us soccer, all the teams could add 2 or 3 players. So teams would add someone as a guest for the playoff run. Even if the player was from another local team that didnt make the playoffs. I think it is a bad rule, but has been around for a long time...
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Post by bolo on Apr 17, 2023 15:30:55 GMT -5
Kind of an awkward time. More reason tryouts should be after playoffs/nationals at the end of summer. A team could be in the playoffs or nationals a month after tryouts and a good % of team could be gone for various reasons but they are expected to play for the former team? It would be interesting if tryouts were the last week of July, right before teams start practicing for the fall. The downside would be losing any summer practices or workouts, though I guess you could do those in larger groups rather than specific to teams. But you would more easily be able to leave teams that qualify for summer play intact for those events. I feel like the whole summer would be used for unofficial evaluations/tryouts, so much like now, actual tryouts, especially for the top teams, would be almost a formality. I wonder how much of an impact summer travel, camps, etc. and the associated availability or unavailability of some players would have on that process. I don't love how it works now, especially at the older ages where you don't have a club season in the spring, then reconvene for a few weeks of practice and maybe a tournament or two right before tryouts. But I'm also not sure the other way would end up being any better. Wonder if we'll ever find out.
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Post by soccerdad76 on Apr 17, 2023 23:41:11 GMT -5
What about an ECNL player practicing with another ECNL club in April? 👀
I know it happens in May… but I’ve never seen it this early.
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Post by soccernoleuk on Apr 18, 2023 5:35:43 GMT -5
What about an ECNL player practicing with another ECNL club in April? 👀 I know it happens in May… but I’ve never seen it this early. IMO if this is happening it should be reported to ECNL because it is a violation of the May 1 recruiting rule. I can see new players training with ECNL teams in April if they didn't play the previous season, or if they moved into the area. However, local players already training with new teams shouldn't happen. Full disclosure, I know of a local ECNL team that already started training this past weekend and had a few new players in attendance. I also know for certain that 1 of them did not play club soccer last year. I'm not sure about the other 2.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 18, 2023 14:15:24 GMT -5
What about an ECNL player practicing with another ECNL club in April? 👀 I know it happens in May… but I’ve never seen it this early. IMO if this is happening it should be reported to ECNL because it is a violation of the May 1 recruiting rule. I can see new players training with ECNL teams in April if they didn't play the previous season, or if they moved into the area. However, local players already training with new teams shouldn't happen. Full disclosure, I know of a local ECNL team that already started training this past weekend and had a few new players in attendance. I also know for certain that 1 of them did not play club soccer last year. I'm not sure about the other 2. If the prior club released them I do not think it is against the rules
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Post by poohshiesty on Apr 19, 2023 10:56:35 GMT -5
What about an ECNL player practicing with another ECNL club in April? 👀 I know it happens in May… but I’ve never seen it this early. IMO if this is happening it should be reported to ECNL because it is a violation of the May 1 recruiting rule. I can see new players training with ECNL teams in April if they didn't play the previous season, or if they moved into the area. However, local players already training with new teams shouldn't happen. Full disclosure, I know of a local ECNL team that already started training this past weekend and had a few new players in attendance. I also know for certain that 1 of them did not play club soccer last year. I'm not sure about the other 2. Yes, it is a violation of ECNL and definitely happens. I'd send a message to the ECNL commissioner if you feel the need but it's definitely not out of the ordinary. Do you think any of these clubs and coaches actually follow the rules? All you can do is report it and hope someone listens.
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Post by diamondmid on Apr 19, 2023 11:14:48 GMT -5
IMO if this is happening it should be reported to ECNL because it is a violation of the May 1 recruiting rule. I can see new players training with ECNL teams in April if they didn't play the previous season, or if they moved into the area. However, local players already training with new teams shouldn't happen. Full disclosure, I know of a local ECNL team that already started training this past weekend and had a few new players in attendance. I also know for certain that 1 of them did not play club soccer last year. I'm not sure about the other 2. Yes, it is a violation of ECNL and definitely happens. I'd send a message to the ECNL commissioner if you feel the need but it's definitely not out of the ordinary. Do you think any of these clubs and coaches actually follow the rules? All you can do is report it and hope someone listens. Why bother reporting? We all know Concorde is above the rules lol...
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Post by dabe on Apr 19, 2023 11:59:28 GMT -5
IMO if this is happening it should be reported to ECNL because it is a violation of the May 1 recruiting rule. I can see new players training with ECNL teams in April if they didn't play the previous season, or if they moved into the area. However, local players already training with new teams shouldn't happen. Full disclosure, I know of a local ECNL team that already started training this past weekend and had a few new players in attendance. I also know for certain that 1 of them did not play club soccer last year. I'm not sure about the other 2. Yes, it is a violation of ECNL and definitely happens. I'd send a message to the ECNL commissioner if you feel the need but it's definitely not out of the ordinary. Do you think any of these clubs and coaches actually follow the rules? All you can do is report it and hope someone listens. I would recommend making sure that the club is actually in violation of the rules before reporting, especially since you are unsure about 2 of the 3 new players' statuses and the 1 you are aware of didn't play club soccer. If ECNL chose to investigate it may create unwanted hassle for the families and reflect poorly on them, especially if they are not violating the rules. People don't usually pay attention to the outcomes of reports like this...
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Post by rifle on Apr 19, 2023 19:30:58 GMT -5
Tell me more about the player who didn’t play soccer that is training with an ECNL team.
…Some have theorized on this board that is impossible.
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Post by bogan on Apr 19, 2023 19:58:13 GMT -5
Tell me more about the player who didn’t play soccer that is training with an ECNL team. …Some have theorized on this board that is impossible. Unicorn?
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Post by Whistledown on Apr 19, 2023 20:00:35 GMT -5
Yes, it is a violation of ECNL and definitely happens. I'd send a message to the ECNL commissioner if you feel the need but it's definitely not out of the ordinary. Do you think any of these clubs and coaches actually follow the rules? All you can do is report it and hope someone listens. Why bother reporting? We all know Concorde is above the rules lol... Why bother “reporting” at all. Mind your business and just let the kids play. Jeez.
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Post by diamondmid on Apr 20, 2023 10:14:41 GMT -5
Why bother reporting? We all know Concorde is above the rules lol... Why bother “reporting” at all. Mind your business and just let the kids play. Jeez. Why not play older kids down age groups? Why not be able to poach any kids from a competing club mid-season? Why is there offside? Why do we even need refs? Why have any rules at all? Let’s mind our own business and just let it be.
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Post by soccernoleuk on Apr 20, 2023 11:44:53 GMT -5
Tell me more about the player who didn’t play soccer that is training with an ECNL team. …Some have theorized on this board that is impossible. ECNL player at one club through U15. Decided not to play club last year for whatever reason. Played JV in High School this spring, and was supposedly told there wouldn't be a Varsity spot unless they play club soccer. So, back at club training (potential new club) getting ready for tryouts.
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Post by rifle on Apr 20, 2023 16:25:16 GMT -5
Tell me more about the player who didn’t play soccer that is training with an ECNL team. …Some have theorized on this board that is impossible. ECNL player at one club through U15. Decided not to play club last year for whatever reason. Played JV in High School this spring, and was supposedly told there wouldn't be a Varsity spot unless they play club soccer. So, back at club training (potential new club) getting ready for tryouts. please name that HS coach. That’s a bunch of crap.
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Post by Whistledown on Apr 21, 2023 21:42:21 GMT -5
ECNL player at one club through U15. Decided not to play club last year for whatever reason. Played JV in High School this spring, and was supposedly told there wouldn't be a Varsity spot unless they play club soccer. So, back at club training (potential new club) getting ready for tryouts. please name that HS coach. That’s a bunch of crap. Don’t call out a coach for “supposedly” told.
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Post by rifle on Apr 22, 2023 8:39:30 GMT -5
please name that HS coach. That’s a bunch of crap. Don’t call out a coach for “supposedly” told. okay I do agree with that. Confirm first.
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Post by soccernoleuk on Apr 22, 2023 9:02:58 GMT -5
Don’t call out a coach for “supposedly” told. okay I do agree with that. Confirm first. I fully trust my source but, even with that said, I won't call out the coach or the school. I know the player, and IMO the player wasn't good enough to make varsity this year anyhow, and also wasn't good enough to make ECNL last year (and was cut from the ECNL team). I'm sure the point the coach is making is, if you aren't playing club soccer you aren't going to get better, and thus won't improve enough to make Varsity in the future. It will be interesting to see if this player steps right back onto an ECNL team or if they name the RL team instead.
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