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Post by mochiburon on May 15, 2023 13:11:58 GMT -5
Please help a select newbie. NTH Milton has posted that they will field an SCCL "Yellow" team for u12 girls in fall 2023.
I get what SCCL is but I have looked around online and in the forums and I'm not clear about Yellow.
What does SCCL Yellow mean and is it a differentiator to have u12 SCCL teams or do all of the big clubs North of Perimeter offer SCCL for u12 girls?
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 15, 2023 13:20:47 GMT -5
Please help a select newbie. NTH Milton has posted that they will field an SCCL "Yellow" team for u12 girls in fall 2023. I get what SCCL is but I have looked around online and in the forums and I'm not clear about Yellow. What does SCCL Yellow mean and is it a differentiator to have u12 SCCL teams or do all of the big clubs North of Perimeter offer SCCL for u12 girls? Yellow is not an SCCL term, that’s just a color code for the level of that team within the NTH world. I’ve never had a kid at NTH so not sure what that color is in the NTH pecking order of teams. |
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Post by mightydawg on May 15, 2023 13:26:27 GMT -5
Top is gold
2nd is navy
3rd is white
Yellow is 4th I think
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Post by mamadona on May 15, 2023 13:33:06 GMT -5
No yellow is the best SCCL team. White is below.
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Post by natlfutbol on May 15, 2023 14:38:26 GMT -5
I was about to add.. At u12, from what i have seen(from the boys side) is that the top team would be in sccl. If yellow is the lowest,, they would not be in sccl at the age level.. When they get to U13, yes.. all teams are in SCCL. but not at U12.
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Post by sailingaway on May 16, 2023 5:01:52 GMT -5
I was about to add.. At u12, from what i have seen(from the boys side) is that the top team would be in sccl. If yellow is the lowest,, they would not be in sccl at the age level.. When they get to U13, yes.. all teams are in SCCL. but not at U12. Yellow is the Club level/highest SCCL team for Tophat. Milton Girls side is now being run by Alex Muñoz. He also coaches GA teams. You can expect training at that location to get even better on girls side now. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 16, 2023 6:40:52 GMT -5
I was about to add.. At u12, from what i have seen(from the boys side) is that the top team would be in sccl. If yellow is the lowest,, they would not be in sccl at the age level.. When they get to U13, yes.. all teams are in SCCL. but not at U12. Yellow is the Club level/highest SCCL team for Tophat. Milton Girls side is now being run by Alex Muñoz. He also coaches GA teams. You can expect training at that location to get even better on girls side now. Munoz is a controversial coach. Not so sure about better. Some like his style, but in my experience more people hate it than like it. He got GA Navy because Eddie Hernandez left and no one else was around to promote and Tophat is having trouble getting great coaches to come in. I know some kids who stayed on the GA Navy teams that he picked up last year hated him and the style of coaching. He has some that love him. Regardless if you love or hate him be prepared for lots of rondo if he has the power to tell the other coaches what to do. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 16, 2023 7:32:49 GMT -5
Yellow is the Club level/highest SCCL team for Tophat. Milton Girls side is now being run by Alex Muñoz. He also coaches GA teams. You can expect training at that location to get even better on girls side now. Munoz is a controversial coach. Not so sure about better. Some like his style, but in my experience more people hate it than like it. He got GA Navy because Eddie Hernandez left and no one else was around to promote and Tophat is having trouble getting great coaches to come in. I know some kids who stayed on the GA Navy teams that he picked up last year hated him and the style of coaching. He has some that love him. Regardless if you love or hate him be prepared for lots of rondo if he has the power to tell the other coaches what to do. Well said. I hope he has matured the last few years. He has zero interest in talking to parents. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2023 8:12:07 GMT -5
Yellow is the Club level/highest SCCL team for Tophat. Milton Girls side is now being run by Alex Muñoz. He also coaches GA teams. You can expect training at that location to get even better on girls side now. Munoz is a controversial coach. Not so sure about better. Some like his style, but in my experience more people hate it than like it. He got GA Navy because Eddie Hernandez left and no one else was around to promote and Tophat is having trouble getting great coaches to come in. I know some kids who stayed on the GA Navy teams that he picked up last year hated him and the style of coaching. He has some that love him. Regardless if you love or hate him be prepared for lots of rondo if he has the power to tell the other coaches what to do. So if the highest tier of professional, semi pro, and amateur league teams do rondos before each practice, why would our youth programs not incorporate it? Tophat and NASA have their styles of play, why complain about someone ( any coach ) because they dont allow kick ball? I have heard numerous coaches explain this concept to my kids on why this is important and it makes complete sense. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 16, 2023 8:40:20 GMT -5
Munoz is a controversial coach. Not so sure about better. Some like his style, but in my experience more people hate it than like it. He got GA Navy because Eddie Hernandez left and no one else was around to promote and Tophat is having trouble getting great coaches to come in. I know some kids who stayed on the GA Navy teams that he picked up last year hated him and the style of coaching. He has some that love him. Regardless if you love or hate him be prepared for lots of rondo if he has the power to tell the other coaches what to do. So if the highest tier of professional, semi pro, and amateur league teams do rondos before each practice, why would our youth programs not incorporate it? Tophat and NASA have their styles of play, why complain about someone ( any coach ) because they dont allow kick ball? I have heard numerous coaches explain this concept to my kids on why this is important and it makes complete sense. No one questions the use of rondo. It’s the over usage of it in relation to the total amount of time he has available for practice. Hopefully uses it less than he did several years ago. Not saying he should get rid of that drill though. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2023 8:41:02 GMT -5
Munoz is a controversial coach. Not so sure about better. Some like his style, but in my experience more people hate it than like it. He got GA Navy because Eddie Hernandez left and no one else was around to promote and Tophat is having trouble getting great coaches to come in. I know some kids who stayed on the GA Navy teams that he picked up last year hated him and the style of coaching. He has some that love him. Regardless if you love or hate him be prepared for lots of rondo if he has the power to tell the other coaches what to do. So if the highest tier of professional, semi pro, and amateur league teams do rondos before each practice, why would our youth programs not incorporate it? Tophat and NASA have their styles of play, why complain about someone ( any coach ) because they dont allow kick ball? I have heard numerous coaches explain this concept to my kids on why this is important and it makes complete sense. Honestly, rondos don't make a lot of sense. The goal in soccer is to go forward, not go around in a circle. |
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Post by cluelessparents on May 16, 2023 8:48:50 GMT -5
So if the highest tier of professional, semi pro, and amateur league teams do rondos before each practice, why would our youth programs not incorporate it? Tophat and NASA have their styles of play, why complain about someone ( any coach ) because they dont allow kick ball? I have heard numerous coaches explain this concept to my kids on why this is important and it makes complete sense. Honestly, rondos don't make a lot of sense. The goal in soccer is to go forward, not go around in a circle. You still have time to delete this message? |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2023 9:00:55 GMT -5
Honestly, rondos don't make a lot of sense. The goal in soccer is to go forward, not go around in a circle. You still have time to delete this message?  |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 16, 2023 22:46:57 GMT -5
So if the highest tier of professional, semi pro, and amateur league teams do rondos before each practice, why would our youth programs not incorporate it? Tophat and NASA have their styles of play, why complain about someone ( any coach ) because they dont allow kick ball? I have heard numerous coaches explain this concept to my kids on why this is important and it makes complete sense. No one questions the use of rondo. It’s the over usage of it in relation to the total amount of time he has available for practice. Hopefully uses it less than he did several years ago. Not saying he should get rid of that drill though. Agreed. Rondo is great for a little bit. It is not worthy of 50% or more of every practice. |
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Post by keepingithonest on May 17, 2023 6:33:27 GMT -5
No one questions the use of rondo. It’s the over usage of it in relation to the total amount of time he has available for practice. Hopefully uses it less than he did several years ago. Not saying he should get rid of that drill though. Agreed. Rondo is great for a little bit. It is not worthy of 50% or more of every practice. If 50% or more of your practice is any single drill then you are a lazy coach. |
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Post by moose0508 on May 17, 2023 9:08:15 GMT -5
I'm a newbie to posting so forgive me if I don't understand all the threads and such. My son has just completed his last year of club soccer all of which were at the ECNL level (1 at DA) so we have been around the soccer scene for a minute. My daughter is entering her 5th or 6th year of competitive soccer so we have seen our fair share of soccer coaches from different clubs, mostly at the top levels. (but not all) Coach Alex is one of my children's all time favorite coaches. His practices are phenomenal: fast paced, lots of touches, high intensity. Coaching is top notch, always educating and increasing my daughter's soccer IQ. From my perspective the difference between a good Coach and Great Coach is how he communicates to his players. Coach Alex is a fantastic Coach. He communicates in a way they understand, holds them accountable without belittling or berating them. He has high expectations and his players know it. I know many parents that love him as a coach. He has always been available for a conversation regarding my kiddo and her/his development. He gives HONEST feedback. He tells me the truth when I ask questions, not what I want to hear, but the TRUTH. He has developed some of the best players in our age groups through Tempo Academy as well as his team practices.
Not every Coach is for every Parent. I can speak for my experience as well as the many Parents I've known throughout the years (boy and girl players) that really like Coach Alex, and we all wished our kids could have played for him forever.
By the way, if you are not doing rondo at your practice you should find a Coach who does. The more meaningful touches the better the player, IMHO.
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Post by moose0508 on May 17, 2023 9:23:56 GMT -5
I'm not trying to be problematic, I just want to share our experience.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 17, 2023 16:46:07 GMT -5
I'm a newbie to posting so forgive me if I don't understand all the threads and such. My son has just completed his last year of club soccer all of which were at the ECNL level (1 at DA) so we have been around the soccer scene for a minute. My daughter is entering her 5th or 6th year of competitive soccer so we have seen our fair share of soccer coaches from different clubs, mostly at the top levels. (but not all) Coach Alex is one of my children's all time favorite coaches. His practices are phenomenal: fast paced, lots of touches, high intensity. Coaching is top notch, always educating and increasing my daughter's soccer IQ. From my perspective the difference between a good Coach and Great Coach is how he communicates to his players. Coach Alex is a fantastic Coach. He communicates in a way they understand, holds them accountable without belittling or berating them. He has high expectations and his players know it. I know many parents that love him as a coach. He has always been available for a conversation regarding my kiddo and her/his development. He gives HONEST feedback. He tells me the truth when I ask questions, not what I want to hear, but the TRUTH. He has developed some of the best players in our age groups through Tempo Academy as well as his team practices. Not every Coach is for every Parent. I can speak for my experience as well as the many Parents I've known throughout the years (boy and girl players) that really like Coach Alex, and we all wished our kids could have played for him forever. By the way, if you are not doing rondo at your practice you should find a Coach who does. The more meaningful touches the better the player, IMHO. That is great that you had that experience. One thing I have learned about club soccer is that one person’s favorite coach is another’s most hated. Full disclosure that he is not our most hated but he is second most hated. The only reason why he is not the top is that he only lied to us and our kid and our kid’s teammates (many) but he was not verbally abusive. He also took 10 year old kids to tournaments far away from home and then sat them on the bench for full games and not for disciplinary reasons. The mom of that player is one of the nicest people I know but she was fuming when she walked over to tell him off. They were little kids and that is against the rules of Georgia Soccer (who was the governing body of his teams at that time). We told some of our friends about our negative experience when he got the 04/05 GA Navy squad and we were told by them that they detested him after their experience. I hope that he is maturing with the years, but I have not heard that. And rondo is great but you better teach them that the ball is not a hot potato when they get on the field. Or vary your rondo with two touch mandatory and let them move a little too. And don’t make it an hour out of every training session. If you go back a couple of years ago you will see other threads about him that were scathing. He will never have an opportunity to coach my kid again but I do hope that he is being honest with people now like you say he is. Hopefully he is learning from the past. |
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Post by Respect on May 18, 2023 14:24:06 GMT -5
So if the highest tier of professional, semi pro, and amateur league teams do rondos before each practice, why would our youth programs not incorporate it? Tophat and NASA have their styles of play, why complain about someone ( any coach ) because they dont allow kick ball? I have heard numerous coaches explain this concept to my kids on why this is important and it makes complete sense. Honestly, rondos don't make a lot of sense. The goal in soccer is to go forward, not go around in a circle. I'd say the goal in soccer is to score goals. Going forward is easy. Going forward with purpose is not easy. You need numbers, spacing, change of pace, passing and running lanes, etc. Rondos help in what to do to relieve pressure (or create pressure) when there is unbalance in numbers not only with the purpose of possess (or create option to recover the ball) but also to move forward with purpose and creativity in tight spaces. What I think they can do more of in the youth soccer rondo drill is to connect to a secondary drill that leads to that change of pace, direction, etc. |
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Post by rpsoccer on May 19, 2023 16:20:52 GMT -5
Honestly, rondos don't make a lot of sense. The goal in soccer is to go forward, not go around in a circle. I'd say the goal in soccer is to score goals. Going forward is easy. Going forward with purpose is not easy. You need numbers, spacing, change of pace, passing and running lanes, etc. Rondos help in what to do to relieve pressure (or create pressure) when there is unbalance in numbers not only with the purpose of possess (or create option to recover the ball) but also to move forward with purpose and creativity in tight spaces. What I think they can do more of in the youth soccer rondo drill is to connect to a secondary drill that leads to that change of pace, direction, etc. If those kids are under 14 years old, then they need to practice a lot of passing and receiving the ball, using both feet, getting confident at it. All of that is learned at a rondo or possession training. It means a lot to be able to pass and receive the ball under high pressure, learning that not every time that they receive the ball it will be perfect and that they have to react and make a decision within seconds. I have seen U14-U15 kids not able to handle the pressure of having the ball on their feet, they either try to dribble everytime or they kick the ball anywhere! I have seen this even at MLS, professional soccer players, there were at least a couple of occasions on this current season that defenders end up passing the ball directly to the forwards of the opposite team, the pressure took over them and made a bad decision. You have to build a lot of confidence on the kids, ask them to calm down, look for options even before getting the ball. Little by little they will learn when to pass, when to dribble, when to do a feint to confuse defenders. If your kid is good at this at 14 or younger, then your kid is in the right track, those are the basic building blocks. Rondos also help training intensity, the kids in the middle of the rondo should do their max effort to capture the ball as soon as possible. For whatever reason I have seen kids take it too casual, it shouldn't, constantly ending up in the middle means that something is failing with their ball control, taking decisions, handling pressure, or passing. They have to take a serious effort to recover the ball as soon as possible, then they learn to slide, to read other players intentions, positioning themselves on the line pass, pressure the player with the ball to his weak foot, in other words it makes them better defensive players. From what I have seen when my kid (SCCL) has played against ECNL teams. It is that SCCL players tend to be more erratic when receiving the ball or passing, or take longer to make a decision, usually ECNL players know in advance where to pass, receive the ball and pass the ball within one or two touches max (the same thing that kids do at rondos over and over). |
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