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Post by playfromtheback on May 16, 2023 13:40:12 GMT -5
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 16, 2023 13:53:19 GMT -5
yea at about 8-0, as embarrassing as it is, just keep the ball and move the ball around. no reason to continue to try to score once its 10-0.
but the reality is, its u9 so none of it matters at all. zero. the teams that got spanked will learn more from it than the team that won all games by 10 goals.
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Post by playfromtheback on May 16, 2023 14:06:32 GMT -5
I agree that in means nothing. At this point it's about teaching kids the game, and I think something about life. I just have an issue with a coach letting this happen. Turn the game in to a possession drill. Move the ball up around the field. Tell your kids not to shoot. I think it is an embarrassment to the club that they did this. While it isn't rec soccer and everyone gets a medal, there is still some sportsmanship and common decency. I'll get off my soap box now.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 16, 2023 14:31:40 GMT -5
I agree that in means nothing. At this point it's about teaching kids the game, and I think something about life. I just have an issue with a coach letting this happen. Turn the game in to a possession drill. Move the ball up around the field. Tell your kids not to shoot. I think it is an embarrassment to the club that they did this. While it isn't rec soccer and everyone gets a medal, there is still some sportsmanship and common decency. I'll get off my soap box now. I hear what you're saying, but I always feel iffy about this. I do enjoy the high school mercy rule of 10. On one hand, you make a good point and bring up some good ideas about pinging the ball around and in essence turning it into a live training session. On the other hand, is it fair to the kids who would maybe ride the bench normally but are getting good minutes with the starters out. Should they be stopped from experiencing the joy of scoring also? We see it in college football, where State U, scores 70 against a directionally named opponent. Again, like you, no dog in this fight, just a thought...
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Post by playfromtheback on May 16, 2023 15:05:02 GMT -5
I wasn't at this game but having a son that is currently still an Acadamy player vs a Select age player I typically don't see many kids riding the bench. Yes, there are kids that play more than others but typically I see kids playing at least 50% of the game. This is especially true at clubs with multiple teams where the drop off in talent isn't as great as it is with the smaller clubs with only one team per age group (it looks like impact had 3 teams in this event). There are no limits on subs. When I was coaching this age, you could see pretty quickly if a game is going to get out of hand. Once we got above the max goal differential by 1; (or up by 5 if it wasn't a tournament) I would tell my players x number of passes before a shot. If someone were to shoot prior to that point, I would sub them out and talk to them about sportsmanship and why we were doing what we were doing. If we were to get up by 8 I would tell them you can only shoot if you haven't scored yet. I just think at these younger ages we need to work to keep kids engaged. A 20-0 game doesn't do that. The club knows their team, they also need to be sure they are entering them in the right events. This club won their 3 games by a combined score of 42-0. Play them up with the U10's, its still the same size field, to find competitive games or find different events. Also being a "keeper dad" I feel for that boy/boys. I could see that pushing them away from the position.
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Post by bolo on May 16, 2023 16:00:43 GMT -5
I agree that in means nothing. At this point it's about teaching kids the game, and I think something about life. I just have an issue with a coach letting this happen. Turn the game in to a possession drill. Move the ball up around the field. Tell your kids not to shoot. I think it is an embarrassment to the club that they did this. While it isn't rec soccer and everyone gets a medal, there is still some sportsmanship and common decency. I'll get off my soap box now. See, a bunch of responses here talk about telling the kids not to shoot, X number of passes before shooting, pinging the ball around and just keeping possession, but as a parent who in the early years of my kids' club soccer had a kid on the bad end of some blowout games where things like that happened, it's just as demoralizing to have the other team counting the number of passes out loud as your team chases them around as it is to have them score yet another goal. Honestly it's almost worse, because it's like they're audibly rubbing it in your face that you can't take the ball from them. I know, you'll say to just have the kids count silently, but that's a lot easier said than done, especially at the younger ages. Truthfully they should just call games at a certain point like they do in high school games, but then you would have parents complaining that they didn't get their money's worth after they paid an exorbitant amount for the privilege of driving 50 minutes each way to watch their kid's team get their brains beat in in 85 degree heat (or 30 degree cold, depending on the time of year).
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Post by randomparent on May 16, 2023 16:24:57 GMT -5
I agree that in means nothing. At this point it's about teaching kids the game, and I think something about life. I just have an issue with a coach letting this happen. Turn the game in to a possession drill. Move the ball up around the field. Tell your kids not to shoot. I think it is an embarrassment to the club that they did this. While it isn't rec soccer and everyone gets a medal, there is still some sportsmanship and common decency. I'll get off my soap box now. See, a bunch of responses here talk about telling the kids not to shoot, X number of passes before shooting, pinging the ball around and just keeping possession, but as a parent who in the early years of my kids' club soccer had a kid on the bad end of some blowout games where things like that happened, it's just as demoralizing to have the other team counting the number of passes out loud as your team chases them around as it is to have them score yet another goal. Honestly it's almost worse, because it's like they're audibly rubbing it in your face that you can't take the ball from them. I know, you'll say to just have the kids count silently, but that's a lot easier said than done, especially at the younger ages. Truthfully they should just call games at a certain point like they do in high school games, but then you would have parents complaining that they didn't get their money's worth after they paid an exorbitant amount for the privilege of driving 50 minutes each way to watch their kid's team get their brains beat in in 85 degree heat (or 30 degree cold, depending on the time of year). I agree, I think sometimes that is worse. In the U8and under category I would tell the other team to play extra players as the kids don't usually notice. Also, it is usually one or two kids doing the damage, talk to them quietly that they will be playing defense and passing to their teammates.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 16, 2023 16:35:07 GMT -5
Its U9 man. You can't convince a bunch of 8 year old or younger kids to not score. I could see if it was an older group, but not U9. It is what it is on this.
I'm actually kind of shocked the tournament person put it in as 20-0. They usually will just cap it out at the max goal differential per game for the tournament and be done with it.
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Post by keepingithonest on May 16, 2023 17:34:02 GMT -5
Not that long ago kid was that age and were on both sides of XX-0 scores. As others have said play starters less than normal. Invert your roster so ones in back are up top and ones up top play back including keeper. No one shoots without at least one back pass making it to the keeper, then two back. Sub lots to slow the game down. Not a great experience for anyone but looking at their scores, that team needs to play better competition.
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 16, 2023 20:25:18 GMT -5
Top teams and kids at that age especially this late in the season know how to keep the ball and move around. Our kids understand the concept of pulling back and not demoralizing the opposition. You always hope not to be in these situations. There was an infamous u9 side back in the day - the coach took the top 2-3 kids from 4 different clubs and rolled into Atlanta and absolutely steam rolled everyone. It was nuts. Their keeper was scoring multiple goals per game and basically played as an extra defender.
JJs teams back in the day took no mercy as well. They would just keep pounding on ya!!
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Post by soccerloafer on May 17, 2023 7:05:50 GMT -5
Its U9 man. You can't convince a bunch of 8 year old or younger kids to not score. I could see if it was an older group, but not U9. It is what it is on this. I'm actually kind of shocked the tournament person put it in as 20-0. They usually will just cap it out at the max goal differential per game for the tournament and be done with it. Yes you can. I coached a really good U9G Academy team years ago (5 of my 6 starters went on to play in college). If we ever got up big, the rule was to reset the ball all the way to the GK anytime we lost and regained possession. If you can't control your team, whatever age, you're not doing it right. Agree the tourney should have capped the score. And these situations suck for everyone involved. No winners.
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Post by justwatching on May 17, 2023 8:23:16 GMT -5
Just another prospective to consider. I don't know if this is the case but sometimes a team asks to play up in a tournament to prevent this from happening. They want a higher level of competition yet the tournament denies it. I've been there. When that happens the results can look like this. Sure the coach could have done some things to slow it down but also as bad as it sounds, if that team requested better placement and the tournament said no, sometimes you have to hand out some lumps to tell the tournament I told you so. You want all kids and both teams having fun in games, especially at that age, so as little fun it was for a team to get beat 20-0 it is also not fun for a team to just pass the ball around and turn away from the goal when it gets near it for 30 minutes. I'm not condoning the beating, just offering a different viewpoint.
And as a player I agree don't just pass the ball around me and make me chase you for 30 minutes. Go score and keep playing. I think possessing around me is much worse.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 17, 2023 8:37:09 GMT -5
Just another prospective to consider. I don't know if this is the case but sometimes a team asks to play up in a tournament to prevent this from happening. They want a higher level of competition yet the tournament denies it. I've been there. When that happens the results can look like this. Sure the coach could have done some things to slow it down but also as bad as it sounds, if that team requested better placement and the tournament said no, sometimes you have to hand out some lumps to tell the tournament I told you so. You want all kids and both teams having fun in games, especially at that age, so as little fun it was for a team to get beat 20-0 it is also not fun for a team to just pass the ball around and turn away from the goal when it gets near it for 30 minutes. I'm not condoning the beating, just offering a different viewpoint. And as a player I agree don't just pass the ball around me and make me chase you for 30 minutes. Go score and keep playing. I think possessing around me is much worse. To be honest with you, I think it is more demoralizing to a team to pass the ball around and recycle rather than just playing the game and scoring. My son has been on both sides of that, and he and his teammates all say the same thing, if I'm on the losing end of the game, I would rather you just keep scoring. They all felt like passing the ball around and having them chase the whole time was more insulting than just scoring. I have also as a referee seen tempers flare more with the passing around and recycling than just scoring. Now scoring can cause it too especially if the people scoring when the game is already in hand are acting like Messi and professional players with celebrations. My kid was in a high school game this season where their team mercy ruled the other team and could have done so in the 1st half if they had wanted to. My kid doesn't normally score goals as he is a defender, but even he scored one on a long shot, and he just kind of shrugged his shoulders and went back to his position. He told me he didn't even really count that as a score as it wasn't against any kind of competition that would be worth celebrating a goal. I think as long as folks are nonchalant like my son was in games like this, you might as well just keep scoring rather than playing keep-away. I think the heat level is lower on just scoring and not celebrating versus laughing and playing keep-away knowing you can score but don't on purpose.
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Post by playfromtheback on May 17, 2023 10:51:15 GMT -5
Just another prospective to consider. I don't know if this is the case but sometimes a team asks to play up in a tournament to prevent this from happening. They want a higher level of competition yet the tournament denies it. I've been there. When that happens the results can look like this. Sure the coach could have done some things to slow it down but also as bad as it sounds, if that team requested better placement and the tournament said no, sometimes you have to hand out some lumps to tell the tournament I told you so. You want all kids and both teams having fun in games, especially at that age, so as little fun it was for a team to get beat 20-0 it is also not fun for a team to just pass the ball around and turn away from the goal when it gets near it for 30 minutes. I'm not condoning the beating, just offering a different viewpoint. And as a player I agree don't just pass the ball around me and make me chase you for 30 minutes. Go score and keep playing. I think possessing around me is much worse. I agree with you but if that was the case, shame on the club as they were the host club. They won their 3 games by a combined score of 42-0. Shame on the club and/or coach for not playing them up. They may not have won playing up but it would have been a better experience for everyone.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 17, 2023 22:09:05 GMT -5
Just another prospective to consider. I don't know if this is the case but sometimes a team asks to play up in a tournament to prevent this from happening. They want a higher level of competition yet the tournament denies it. I've been there. When that happens the results can look like this. Sure the coach could have done some things to slow it down but also as bad as it sounds, if that team requested better placement and the tournament said no, sometimes you have to hand out some lumps to tell the tournament I told you so. You want all kids and both teams having fun in games, especially at that age, so as little fun it was for a team to get beat 20-0 it is also not fun for a team to just pass the ball around and turn away from the goal when it gets near it for 30 minutes. I'm not condoning the beating, just offering a different viewpoint. And as a player I agree don't just pass the ball around me and make me chase you for 30 minutes. Go score and keep playing. I think possessing around me is much worse. To be honest with you, I think it is more demoralizing to a team to pass the ball around and recycle rather than just playing the game and scoring. My son has been on both sides of that, and he and his teammates all say the same thing, if I'm on the losing end of the game, I would rather you just keep scoring. They all felt like passing the ball around and having them chase the whole time was more insulting than just scoring. I have also as a referee seen tempers flare more with the passing around and recycling than just scoring. Now scoring can cause it too especially if the people scoring when the game is already in hand are acting like Messi and professional players with celebrations. My kid was in a high school game this season where their team mercy ruled the other team and could have done so in the 1st half if they had wanted to. My kid doesn't normally score goals as he is a defender, but even he scored one on a long shot, and he just kind of shrugged his shoulders and went back to his position. He told me he didn't even really count that as a score as it wasn't against any kind of competition that would be worth celebrating a goal. I think as long as folks are nonchalant like my son was in games like this, you might as well just keep scoring rather than playing keep-away. I think the heat level is lower on just scoring and not celebrating versus laughing and playing keep-away knowing you can score but don't on purpose. Depends on age IMO. The little kids don’t even realize that the coaches have moved people around or are playing pass back to the keeper or 10 pass or score with non dominant foot only or can’t shoot unless you haven’t scored yet. We were on the winning side of a 15-1 game in a tourney at U10. Our coach played everyone in different positions, etc but it was still bad. Eventually we played 5 v 7 and that was when their player scored. Their coach and parents thanked us afterwards. We won all of our games but this one was less about us than them. Their best loss was 9-0. Older kids know the tactics you are using to make it like a training session. Younger ones usually don’t
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on May 18, 2023 6:51:38 GMT -5
Check out some of the u18/19 Girls ECNL scores for Concorde platinum and UFA
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 18, 2023 9:45:43 GMT -5
Ok, I read through all the opinions and agree with a lot of them regarding how best to handle having an overwhelming team play against weaker competition. However, I then went and pulled up the link to the "results" page here in the original post. soccer.sincsports.com/schedule.aspx?tid=GAELITE&year=2023&stid=GAELITE&syear=2023&div=U09M01It looks to me like ALL of the teams attending were well below what the host teams level was. I could be wrong as I'm basing on the naming and color codes of the teams: SSA had "green" premier ( the team that lost 20-0) AFC "central" "south red AFC "central" black academy I don't even know where "green" falls at SSA, but I know it's not above blue, white, etc. ( I'm guessing it's at most their 4th best team??) Where as, Georgia Impact had it's "Elite" team, which I'm positive IS their best. And 3 of the 6 teams total in U14, were from Georgia Impact themselves, with the "Final" being two of the Georgia Impact teams against each other. So, it looks and sounds like there wasn't much love for this tournament, but clubs usually have the agreement where they will send teams to each others tournaments as a favor to each other. As we all know, this is a money generator for the clubs, but in a tournament this small, there likely aren't many options to match the competition to make competitive games. It's just a sad situation all around, because they need to hold a tournament but can't attract the talent to create a competitive environment the need. I know, we have been at a small club before, and have seen this play out, but what else can they do. The next age up was a combined U15/16 group probably for the exact same reason ( and already had two other Georgia Impact team in it) that they couldn't draw enough teams for individual age groups. Smaller clubs are sometimes stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 18, 2023 10:25:50 GMT -5
It looks to me like ALL of the teams attending were well below what the host teams level was. I could be wrong as I'm basing on the naming and color codes of the teams: SSA had "green" premier ( the team that lost 20-0) AFC "central" "south red AFC "central" black academy I don't even know where "green" falls at SSA, but I know it's not above blue, white, etc. ( I'm guessing it's at most their 4th best team??) Where as, Georgia Impact had it's "Elite" team, which I'm positive IS their best. And 3 of the 6 teams total in U14, were from Georgia Impact themselves, with the "Final" being two of the Georgia Impact teams against each other. So, it looks and sounds like there wasn't much love for this tournament, but clubs usually have the agreement where they will send teams to each others tournaments as a favor to each other. As we all know, this is a money generator for the clubs, but in a tournament this small, there likely aren't many options to match the competition to make competitive games. It's just a sad situation all around, because they need to hold a tournament but can't attract the talent to create a competitive environment the need. I know, we have been at a small club before, and have seen this play out, but what else can they do. The next age up was a combined U15/16 group probably for the exact same reason ( and already had two other Georgia Impact team in it) that they couldn't draw enough teams for individual age groups. Smaller clubs are sometimes stuck between a rock and a hard place. When discussing SSA the colors are locations not levels. Green location is Cartersville, Blue is Cobb, White is Coweta, Black is Paulding/Kennesaw area, Gold is Dekalb, Yellow is the merged Northside church teams. There may be other colors but I think those are the main ones that I can remember. SSA's levels will be MLS, NPL, SCCL Club, SCCL Premier (and whatever level premier they are) I think they also have DPL and Girls Academy. Their name in a tournament may or may not show their level they play in regular season play. That would depend on what the team manager or coach decided to put in sincsports.
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Post by mightydawg on May 18, 2023 10:33:12 GMT -5
Ok, I read through all the opinions and agree with a lot of them regarding how best to handle having an overwhelming team play against weaker competition. However, I then went and pulled up the link to the "results" page here in the original post. soccer.sincsports.com/schedule.aspx?tid=GAELITE&year=2023&stid=GAELITE&syear=2023&div=U09M01It looks to me like ALL of the teams attending were well below what the host teams level was. I could be wrong as I'm basing on the naming and color codes of the teams: SSA had "green" premier ( the team that lost 20-0) AFC "central" "south red AFC "central" black academy I don't even know where "green" falls at SSA, but I know it's not above blue, white, etc. ( I'm guessing it's at most their 4th best team??) Where as, Georgia Impact had it's "Elite" team, which I'm positive IS their best. And 3 of the 6 teams total in U14, were from Georgia Impact themselves, with the "Final" being two of the Georgia Impact teams against each other. So, it looks and sounds like there wasn't much love for this tournament, but clubs usually have the agreement where they will send teams to each others tournaments as a favor to each other. As we all know, this is a money generator for the clubs, but in a tournament this small, there likely aren't many options to match the competition to make competitive games. It's just a sad situation all around, because they need to hold a tournament but can't attract the talent to create a competitive environment the need. I know, we have been at a small club before, and have seen this play out, but what else can they do. The next age up was a combined U15/16 group probably for the exact same reason ( and already had two other Georgia Impact team in it) that they couldn't draw enough teams for individual age groups. Smaller clubs are sometimes stuck between a rock and a hard place. This was U9 (2014 birth year), not U14. There was a bracket at U10 although the scores are similarly bad. Also, at SSA, colors are locations, not team rankings. The description after the color indicates the team. It looks like the tournament did a poor job of matching up similar competition by creating large divisions and not moving strong teams up an age group.
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Post by bogan on May 18, 2023 10:44:42 GMT -5
I’m not sure if anyone has heard, but at SSA, the colors are locations…😎
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 18, 2023 10:47:19 GMT -5
I’m not sure if anyone has heard, but at SSA, the colors are locations…😎 I mean just to make it perfectly clear!
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Post by justanotherdad on May 18, 2023 11:13:30 GMT -5
Also, at SSA, colors are locations, not team rankings. The description after the color indicates the team. It looks like the tournament did a poor job of matching up similar competition by creating large divisions and not moving strong teams up an age group. Not sure if it's universal but, for SSA, premier is typically a designation for an academy second team. At U9 they usually only have two teams per age group, so skill levels vary greatly on premier teams. And I can't speak for the SSA Green location but, from what I've experienced at the SSA Black (Paulding/Kennesaw) location, second and third academy teams getting beat by 8-10 goals sounds routine.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 18, 2023 11:19:20 GMT -5
Also, at SSA, colors are locations, not team rankings. The description after the color indicates the team. It looks like the tournament did a poor job of matching up similar competition by creating large divisions and not moving strong teams up an age group. Not sure if it's universal but, for SSA, premier is typically a designation for an academy second team. At U9 they usually only have two teams per age group, so skill levels vary greatly on premier teams. And I can't speak for the SSA Green location but, from what I've experienced at the SSA Black (Paulding/Kennesaw) location, second and third academy teams getting beat by 8-10 goals sounds routine. You are correct. I forgot to mention the Academy. They usual say Elite or Premier. Premier could be 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th team depending on how many teams they have. Elite is typically their top Academy team. The issue is that not all Elite and Premier teams are equal in quality depending on the location. Typically the in-house academy schedule that SSA uses shows the level of play in an alphabetic range A-D or so usually so that when they set up academy level games they match up like opponents. So sometimes an Elite team for a location may only be a B or C level team and might only play lower teams at other clubs or locations.
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 18, 2023 15:20:46 GMT -5
I’m not sure if anyone has heard, but at SSA, the colors are locations…😎 I mean just to make it perfectly clear! Obviously I haven't kept up with all of the threads and it's been years since my kids played against an SSA academy team.. so my apologies for the color coding mistake. Blue, Black, Red, White Green, Premier, Platinum, Elite, Academy and each with a different meaning depending on the club... ugh.
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 18, 2023 15:28:44 GMT -5
Ok, I read through all the opinions and agree with a lot of them regarding how best to handle having an overwhelming team play against weaker competition. However, I then went and pulled up the link to the "results" page here in the original post. soccer.sincsports.com/schedule.aspx?tid=GAELITE&year=2023&stid=GAELITE&syear=2023&div=U09M01It looks to me like ALL of the teams attending were well below what the host teams level was. I could be wrong as I'm basing on the naming and color codes of the teams: SSA had "green" premier ( the team that lost 20-0) AFC "central" "south red AFC "central" black academy I don't even know where "green" falls at SSA, but I know it's not above blue, white, etc. ( I'm guessing it's at most their 4th best team??) Where as, Georgia Impact had it's "Elite" team, which I'm positive IS their best. And 3 of the 6 teams total in U14, were from Georgia Impact themselves, with the "Final" being two of the Georgia Impact teams against each other. So, it looks and sounds like there wasn't much love for this tournament, but clubs usually have the agreement where they will send teams to each others tournaments as a favor to each other. As we all know, this is a money generator for the clubs, but in a tournament this small, there likely aren't many options to match the competition to make competitive games. It's just a sad situation all around, because they need to hold a tournament but can't attract the talent to create a competitive environment the need. I know, we have been at a small club before, and have seen this play out, but what else can they do. The next age up was a combined U15/16 group probably for the exact same reason ( and already had two other Georgia Impact team in it) that they couldn't draw enough teams for individual age groups. Smaller clubs are sometimes stuck between a rock and a hard place. This was U9 (2014 birth year), not U14. There was a bracket at U10 although the scores are similarly bad. Also, at SSA, colors are locations, not team rankings. The description after the color indicates the team. It looks like the tournament did a poor job of matching up similar competition by creating large divisions and not moving strong teams up an age group. Yep, my bad. I meant 2014 when I started my post, and accidentally crossed it with U14 at the end. But hopefully you got my main point... that it was a small tournament, with a smaller club, so you take the teams that come to it and even if they don't matchup competitively because its a money generator. Scheduling is hard with few clubs coming and the difference in levels can get exaggerated with the teams that DO come.
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Post by rifle on May 18, 2023 21:16:54 GMT -5
I thought this was about Man City vs Real Madrid.
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Post by flix on May 19, 2023 9:50:43 GMT -5
I thought this was about Man City vs Real Madrid. That was cute. Real Madrid have 14 Champions League trophies, how many do Man City have? That’s good finally was able to beat Madrid because he hasn’t had much luck other than the first few seasons as Barca. Lord knows Real spanked Pep while he was at Bayern. I would love to see how good a coach he really is without being at the biggest clubs.
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Post by rifle on May 19, 2023 11:01:54 GMT -5
I thought this was about Man City vs Real Madrid. That was cute. Real Madrid have 14 Champions League trophies, how many do Man City have? That’s good finally was able to beat Madrid because he hasn’t had much luck other than the first few seasons as Barca. Lord knows Real spanked Pep while he was at Bayern. I would love to see how good a coach he really is without being at the biggest clubs. I would like to see the same. I acknowledge Guardiola has a huge advantage due to big money but I also believe - among multiple clubs with bottomless wallets - Pep gets the most out of everyone because he’s an absolute lunatic perfectionist. I also acknowledge RM has been dominant in UCL. Fun to watch. I’d love to see him manage the USMNT if he ever gets bored.
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Post by trollfather on May 22, 2023 16:51:24 GMT -5
Its U9 man. You can't convince a bunch of 8 year old or younger kids to not score. I could see if it was an older group, but not U9. It is what it is on this. I'm actually kind of shocked the tournament person put it in as 20-0. They usually will just cap it out at the max goal differential per game for the tournament and be done with it. Yes you can. I coached a really good U9G Academy team years ago (5 of my 6 starters went on to play in college). If we ever got up big, the rule was to reset the ball all the way to the GK anytime we lost and regained possession. If you can't control your team, whatever age, you're not doing it right. Agree the tourney should have capped the score. And these situations suck for everyone involved. No winners. 100% agree. Running up the score is never right. Plus potentially dangerous as children can get upset and kick out.
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