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Post by dabe on Sept 14, 2023 16:15:00 GMT -5
Any alternatives for high school soccer? Our school doesn't have much in terms of funding or even a proper trainer. The skill level isn't very high, and it feels like a recipe for potential injuries. We don't want to take that risk this year as we've been lucky the past few.
We're thinking about going for track since it's better funded at our school, or maybe just sticking to private lessons. But before making a decision, I wanted to reach out to this forum and see if anyone has any suggestions or insights.
The goal is to keep my kid fit, preferably something other than doing solo workouts.
Thanks in advance!
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Post by youthsoccerdad on Sept 14, 2023 17:16:04 GMT -5
Any alternatives for high school soccer? Our school doesn't have much in terms of funding or even a proper trainer. The skill level isn't very high, and it feels like a recipe for potential injuries. We don't want to take that risk this year as we've been lucky the past few. We're thinking about going for track since it's better funded at our school, or maybe just sticking to private lessons. But before making a decision, I wanted to reach out to this forum and see if anyone has any suggestions or insights. The goal is to keep my kid fit, preferably something other than doing solo workouts. Thanks in advance! Pickleball. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Sept 14, 2023 17:39:14 GMT -5
Our child had no interest in high school soccer at the small school that they attended. Only a few strong players and many kids who had not played since elementary school rec.
We did track. It was something new and refreshing. Private lesson for soccer and some training at home as usual. Plus the club team was training twice per week anyway so there was that. Spring showcases we’re still happening so we had those matches.
One year training with a high level U14 provided some touches and a different feel. One year was Covid anyway so that was a mess as you all know.
Lots of options. You will find something that sounds right
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Post by bogan on Sept 14, 2023 18:22:10 GMT -5
Our child had no interest in high school soccer at the small school that they attended. Only a few strong players and many kids who had not played since elementary school rec. We did track. It was something new and refreshing. Private lesson for soccer and some training at home as usual. Plus the club team was training twice per week anyway so there was that. Spring showcases we’re still happening so we had those matches. One year training with a high level U14 provided some touches and a different feel. One year was Covid anyway so that was a mess as you all know. Lots of options. You will find something that sounds right My son did track and tennis-wasn’t great at either but had fun! |
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Post by soccerparent02 on Sept 14, 2023 20:04:32 GMT -5
Kid played on a Nationally ranked ECNL team and were national finalists. Played high school because kid wanted to play with friends they grew up with. Never was injured. The friend thing needs consideration if that is a want by the player.
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Post by flix on Sept 15, 2023 8:27:28 GMT -5
This is why I am always lost when people debate ECNL vs MLS Next. You play half a season and IF you make playoffs you come back basically in the summer to finish. At least with MLS Next you get training and matches for 10 months. I don’t know anything about girls academy so excuse my ignorance. A lot of people don’t want to play high school soccer as club is usually better than high school. Some people don’t care about playing soccer with their friends. I mean even academy kids play the whole season. ECNL needs to change in my opinion.
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Post by youthsoccerdad on Sept 15, 2023 8:58:51 GMT -5
This is why I am always lost when people debate ECNL vs MLS Next. You play half a season and IF you make playoffs you come back basically in the summer to finish. At least with MLS Next you get training and matches for 10 months. I don’t know anything about girls academy so excuse my ignorance. A lot of people don’t want to play high school soccer as club is usually better than high school. Some people don’t care about playing soccer with their friends. I mean even academy kids play the whole season. ECNL needs to change in my opinion. Just curious, what is your kids goal of playing MLS Next? |
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Post by soccerloafer on Sept 15, 2023 9:59:34 GMT -5
Track and cross country are great HS sports. They're like the band kids of athletes... My youngest dropped soccer for running and it was a great decision. It's an individual and team sport - your time decides your placement, not politics... You run your best and cheer on your teammates.
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Post by bogan on Sept 15, 2023 10:10:35 GMT -5
Track and cross country are great HS sports. They're like the band kids of athletes... My youngest dropped soccer for running and it was a great decision. It's an individual and team sport - your time decides your placement, not politics... You run your best and cheer on your teammates. Absolutely! |
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Post by rotgg on Sept 15, 2023 10:20:24 GMT -5
Track and cross country are great HS sports. They're like the band kids of athletes... My youngest dropped soccer for running and it was a great decision. It's an individual and team sport - your time decides your placement, not politics... You run your best and cheer on your teammates. Its hard to argue with the stop watch  but coach he/she is so technically gifted or they had a great tryout day  |
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Post by rifle on Sept 15, 2023 12:05:35 GMT -5
Track and cross country are great HS sports. They're like the band kids of athletes... My youngest dropped soccer for running and it was a great decision. It's an individual and team sport - your time decides your placement, not politics... You run your best and cheer on your teammates. kinda like pro golf. Shoot low and you’re in. Fail to do it and somebody else is in. |
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Post by flix on Sept 15, 2023 12:12:21 GMT -5
This is why I am always lost when people debate ECNL vs MLS Next. You play half a season and IF you make playoffs you come back basically in the summer to finish. At least with MLS Next you get training and matches for 10 months. I don’t know anything about girls academy so excuse my ignorance. A lot of people don’t want to play high school soccer as club is usually better than high school. Some people don’t care about playing soccer with their friends. I mean even academy kids play the whole season. ECNL needs to change in my opinion. Just curious, what is your kids goal of playing MLS Next? Just curious, why do you care? Why would I share that with you? |
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Post by youthsoccerdad on Sept 15, 2023 13:01:15 GMT -5
Just curious, what is your kids goal of playing MLS Next? Just curious, why do you care? Why would I share that with you? My kids play soccer to have to have fun and compete against other kids. They also like hanging out with friends. |
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Post by beautifulgame on Sept 15, 2023 13:58:21 GMT -5
Might check with your club. UFA had an alternative for those who didn’t play HS. It was a spring league where they trained and scrimmaged colleges.
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Post by dabe on Sept 15, 2023 14:24:22 GMT -5
This is why I am always lost when people debate ECNL vs MLS Next. You play half a season and IF you make playoffs you come back basically in the summer to finish. At least with MLS Next you get training and matches for 10 months. I don’t know anything about girls academy so excuse my ignorance. A lot of people don’t want to play high school soccer as club is usually better than high school. Some people don’t care about playing soccer with their friends. I mean even academy kids play the whole season. ECNL needs to change in my opinion. It would be great if they at least had an option for kids who didn't want to play high school. The whole ECNL for half the year and then HS for the other half works well when your school is well funded and is competitive. But when it's not it's just not worth it. |
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Post by Oceanready on Sept 15, 2023 15:54:15 GMT -5
My daughter says she will do track this year because she wants to experience an individual accomplishment. She knows the whole team contributes to the overall points, but she wants to focus on beating her time, training for her race, and not worrying about anyone else. If her club team makes Nationals, she says she will switch back to teamwork lol.
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Post by flix on Sept 15, 2023 16:09:27 GMT -5
Just curious, why do you care? Why would I share that with you? My kids play soccer to have to have fun and compete against other kids. They also like hanging out with friends. Well my kid wants to go professional, back up is to play college and ultimately still try to play professional. Everybody isn’t in this to have fun and hang out. I know people will quote the odds are against them but someone has to dream. If your kid just wants to hang out and have fun, why not play Rec and not waste your time and money playing ECNL? |
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Post by flix on Sept 15, 2023 16:13:31 GMT -5
In my opinion ECNL is a money grab. Everyone talks about nationals, it seems like almost every team makes nationals so it can’t be that competitive. Then when you get to nationals it’s group stage? That’s a joke. At least MLS next you have to either win your division or win your group at the Next Fest in the spring to make playoffs. There are only 32 teams and it’s single elimination knockout, win or go home, no guaranteed three matches. Now people will say the same thing about MLS Next but I am speaking from the MLS academy side, NO DOUGH do the parents form out.
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Post by Oceanready on Sept 15, 2023 16:15:48 GMT -5
Our child had no interest in high school soccer at the small school that they attended. Only a few strong players and many kids who had not played since elementary school rec. We did track. It was something new and refreshing. Private lesson for soccer and some training at home as usual. Plus the club team was training twice per week anyway so there was that. Spring showcases we’re still happening so we had those matches. One year training with a high level U14 provided some touches and a different feel. One year was Covid anyway so that was a mess as you all know. Lots of options. You will find something that sounds right My son did track and tennis-wasn’t great at either but had fun! That is the fun in those individual high school sports. If you make the team, most likely you will get a chance to show your talents and can learn to work hard to improve. It is not like your are sitting on the bench in a team sport or playing, but not enough minutes. With individual sports, if you are scheduled to compete, chances are that you will compete. At the end of the day, I strongly believe that whatever sport (team or individual) a child decides to do, if they work hard, they can achieve success. |
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Post by youthsoccerdad on Sept 15, 2023 20:06:50 GMT -5
My kids play soccer to have to have fun and compete against other kids. They also like hanging out with friends. Well my kid wants to go professional, back up is to play college and ultimately still try to play professional. Everybody isn’t in this to have fun and hang out. I know people will quote the odds are against them but someone has to dream. If your kid just wants to hang out and have fun, why not play Rec and not waste your time and money playing ECNL? If you re read my post, it says they want to have fun and compete against other kids. Playing rec wouldn't be much competition. They do play "rec" in other sports and have a blast (basketball, flag football, etc.). The league doesn't matter as much, one of my kids does SCCL but that is the appropriate level. So they compete there. Time and money are separate questions, for me personally I don't mind either of those commitments, but I do not like nationals and many of the away tournaments that now seem so mandatory for teams. I guess the reason is they don't need to go to those tournaments typically to have fun and compete. I always love a good preseason tournament, if it is drivable, so the kids and parents on the the team can get to know one another. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Sept 15, 2023 22:06:46 GMT -5
My kids play soccer to have to have fun and compete against other kids. They also like hanging out with friends. Well my kid wants to go professional, back up is to play college and ultimately still try to play professional. Everybody isn’t in this to have fun and hang out. I know people will quote the odds are against them but someone has to dream. If your kid just wants to hang out and have fun, why not play Rec and not waste your time and money playing ECNL? Because rec soccer (for girls anyway) is horrible. I got to our assigned field last Sunday for my kid’s game. Before our game was a rec game with the same age players. It was stunning how bad most of these kids were. At one point in the match there was a “cross” and all three defenders completely whiffed on the ball. Now this was an easy ball to play. I just don’t even think I am doing it justice.. just how bad it was. The whole time I was standing there I was shocked. I have watched rec when my older kid was a ref. The difference between rec and a middle level team at a big club is so huge that it would be absurd if an ECNL player decided to play it. Just saying. Good luck to your kid! I hope that they succeed. My kid wasn’t there for social hour either, but playing at a high level at least was a challenge and that made it fun and rewarding. I hope your kid enjoys it as any job is better when you have a passion for it, even when your job is to play a game. |
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Post by flix on Sept 15, 2023 22:54:06 GMT -5
Well my kid wants to go professional, back up is to play college and ultimately still try to play professional. Everybody isn’t in this to have fun and hang out. I know people will quote the odds are against them but someone has to dream. If your kid just wants to hang out and have fun, why not play Rec and not waste your time and money playing ECNL? If you re read my post, it says they want to have fun and compete against other kids. Playing rec wouldn't be much competition. They do play "rec" in other sports and have a blast (basketball, flag football, etc.). The league doesn't matter as much, one of my kids does SCCL but that is the appropriate level. So they compete there. Time and money are separate questions, for me personally I don't mind either of those commitments, but I do not like nationals and many of the away tournaments that now seem so mandatory for teams. I guess the reason is they don't need to go to those tournaments typically to have fun and compete. I always love a good preseason tournament, if it is drivable, so the kids and parents on the the team can get to know one another. “The league doesn’t matter as much”? Huh? You sound like your kids may not be teenagers if they are playing Rec league in other sports. At some point if they are serious, they don’t want to play anything other than soccer. I didn’t need to re-read your post about being fun and compete. You also said they play SCCL, not to put SCCL down, but it’s definitely not MLS Next nor ECNL when it comes to competing. It is not Rec but it’s definitely not top level competition. When kids are young yes you put them in baseball, basketball, flag football, gymnastics etc to work on different motor skills. However as they get older, you have to pick your poison and stick with it. I still stand by my point of ECNL doesn’t do their players any favors by MANDATING you can’t play a full season & must take off to play high school. Unless you live in the northern suburbs or Dalton, it’s not worth your while it appears. Not to mention ECNL travel is ridiculous for regular matches. That’s sweet you like going to tournaments so the kids and parents can get to know each other. I have always believed there are no friends in the soccer world as it’s dog eat dog. Let’s see how friendly you are when your friend has taken your spot and you are on the bench. |
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Post by flix on Sept 15, 2023 22:58:02 GMT -5
Well my kid wants to go professional, back up is to play college and ultimately still try to play professional. Everybody isn’t in this to have fun and hang out. I know people will quote the odds are against them but someone has to dream. If your kid just wants to hang out and have fun, why not play Rec and not waste your time and money playing ECNL? Because rec soccer (for girls anyway) is horrible. I got to our assigned field last Sunday for my kid’s game. Before our game was a rec game with the same age players. It was stunning how bad most of these kids were. At one point in the match there was a “cross” and all three defenders completely whiffed on the ball. Now this was an easy ball to play. I just don’t even think I am doing it justice.. just how bad it was. The whole time I was standing there I was shocked. I have watched rec when my older kid was a ref. The difference between rec and a middle level team at a big club is so huge that it would be absurd if an ECNL player decided to play it. Just saying. Good luck to your kid! I hope that they succeed. My kid wasn’t there for social hour either, but playing at a high level at least was a challenge and that made it fun and rewarding. I hope your kid enjoys it as any job is better when you have a passion for it, even when your job is to play a game. Perhaps I was wrong when saying play Rec as you are right, it is horrible. But to be honest all these other leagues aren’t that much better. Thanks for the moral support as I know most people will frown at someone saying they want to go professional. I don’t think many people have the guts to say that and then go after it. The problem is kids that don’t hit the books just in case things don’t go as planned. |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Sept 16, 2023 10:27:01 GMT -5
ODP might be an option, depending on the age. It won't provide for a lot of training, but it can at least provide some game time in the spring. I know we skipped multiple events last year because we were playing High School. Had we played those events, it would have been at least 6+ games.
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Post by youthsoccerdad on Sept 16, 2023 11:08:35 GMT -5
If you re read my post, it says they want to have fun and compete against other kids. Playing rec wouldn't be much competition. They do play "rec" in other sports and have a blast (basketball, flag football, etc.). The league doesn't matter as much, one of my kids does SCCL but that is the appropriate level. So they compete there. Time and money are separate questions, for me personally I don't mind either of those commitments, but I do not like nationals and many of the away tournaments that now seem so mandatory for teams. I guess the reason is they don't need to go to those tournaments typically to have fun and compete. I always love a good preseason tournament, if it is drivable, so the kids and parents on the the team can get to know one another. “The league doesn’t matter as much”? Huh? You sound like your kids may not be teenagers if they are playing Rec league in other sports. At some point if they are serious, they don’t want to play anything other than soccer. I didn’t need to re-read your post about being fun and compete. You also said they play SCCL, not to put SCCL down, but it’s definitely not MLS Next nor ECNL when it comes to competing. It is not Rec but it’s definitely not top level competition. When kids are young yes you put them in baseball, basketball, flag football, gymnastics etc to work on different motor skills. However as they get older, you have to pick your poison and stick with it. I still stand by my point of ECNL doesn’t do their players any favors by MANDATING you can’t play a full season & must take off to play high school. Unless you live in the northern suburbs or Dalton, it’s not worth your while it appears. Not to mention ECNL travel is ridiculous for regular matches. That’s sweet you like going to tournaments so the kids and parents can get to know each other. I have always believed there are no friends in the soccer world as it’s dog eat dog. Let’s see how friendly you are when your friend has taken your spot and you are on the bench. Lol, car rides home after the game with you must be a blast. I get it though, you are frustrated. You gave me some advice earlier that my kids should just play rec. Let me give you some, just have your kids focus on grades and keep plugging into that 529 is the best advice anyone can take. Just because you bought a lottery ticket doesn't mean you shouldn't show up for work on Monday. Not going to try to unpack your post. |
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Post by flix on Sept 16, 2023 11:24:49 GMT -5
“The league doesn’t matter as much”? Huh? You sound like your kids may not be teenagers if they are playing Rec league in other sports. At some point if they are serious, they don’t want to play anything other than soccer. I didn’t need to re-read your post about being fun and compete. You also said they play SCCL, not to put SCCL down, but it’s definitely not MLS Next nor ECNL when it comes to competing. It is not Rec but it’s definitely not top level competition. When kids are young yes you put them in baseball, basketball, flag football, gymnastics etc to work on different motor skills. However as they get older, you have to pick your poison and stick with it. I still stand by my point of ECNL doesn’t do their players any favors by MANDATING you can’t play a full season & must take off to play high school. Unless you live in the northern suburbs or Dalton, it’s not worth your while it appears. Not to mention ECNL travel is ridiculous for regular matches. That’s sweet you like going to tournaments so the kids and parents can get to know each other. I have always believed there are no friends in the soccer world as it’s dog eat dog. Let’s see how friendly you are when your friend has taken your spot and you are on the bench. Lol, car rides home after the game with you must be a blast. I get it though, you are frustrated. You gave me some advice earlier that my kids should just play rec. Let me give you some, just have your kids focus on grades and keep plugging into that 529 is the best advice anyone can take. Just because you bought a lottery ticket doesn't mean you shouldn't show up for work on Monday. Not going to try to unpack your post. This is exactly why I was hesitant to even answer you question. I don’t need any advice from you as your kid plays SCCL my friend, you are obviously the one who needs advice to get your kids on a higher playing level. Rides home with me as just fine as my kid listens to his music and I do not preach about what he should have done. How am I frustrated? My kid plays at a level yours will probably never achieve if they are playing SCCL. My kid is a straight A student, what about yours? Your lottery ticket analogy shows what an intelligent dummy you are. People always want to try to insult people on this forum for no reason. Enjoy paying thousands of dollars for crappy soccer. Funny thing is, with my kid playing with an MLS academy for free, I have more cash to save for college but in reality he will probably get academic scholarships so I will just give him that money because he has saved me from paying college tuition prices to play youth soccer. You are barking up the wrong tree. Go enjoy hanging out with the soccer parents who probably don’t like you. |
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Post by dabe on Sept 17, 2023 17:14:22 GMT -5
Lol, car rides home after the game with you must be a blast. I get it though, you are frustrated. You gave me some advice earlier that my kids should just play rec. Let me give you some, just have your kids focus on grades and keep plugging into that 529 is the best advice anyone can take. Just because you bought a lottery ticket doesn't mean you shouldn't show up for work on Monday. Not going to try to unpack your post. This is exactly why I was hesitant to even answer you question. I don’t need any advice from you as your kid plays SCCL my friend, you are obviously the one who needs advice to get your kids on a higher playing level. Rides home with me as just fine as my kid listens to his music and I do not preach about what he should have done. How am I frustrated? My kid plays at a level yours will probably never achieve if they are playing SCCL. My kid is a straight A student, what about yours? Your lottery ticket analogy shows what an intelligent dummy you are. People always want to try to insult people on this forum for no reason. Enjoy paying thousands of dollars for crappy soccer. Funny thing is, with my kid playing with an MLS academy for free, I have more cash to save for college but in reality he will probably get academic scholarships so I will just give him that money because he has saved me from paying college tuition prices to play youth soccer. You are barking up the wrong tree. Go enjoy hanging out with the soccer parents who probably don’t like you. Whoa. That escalated. I don't understand the need to harp on other people's kids. Yes, your kid wants to go pro. Power to him. I genuinely hope he makes it if that's what he wants. I know a couple of professional players and a few semi-pro players and some former pro players. One thing they have in common is their mindset which seems to be the exact opposite of yours. In fact, the former pro players who help my daughter emphasize how important it is for soccer to not be 100% of your life. How you need to do things outside of soccer and not just school. You need to find a hobby, serve your community, do anything to get to know yourself better as someone outside of being an athlete or student. We don't know your kid so we have no ability to gauge whether that is a "viable" option for him, at least in our eyes. That said, what I do know is that cultivating an environment of a "dog eat dog" world and no friends has not worked for any of the people that I know who have been and are still successful at a professional level. Moreover, I know for a fact reducing a child down to what league they play in will do nothing to benefit your child's success, so why do it? Food for thought. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Sept 18, 2023 6:46:20 GMT -5
This is exactly why I was hesitant to even answer you question. I don’t need any advice from you as your kid plays SCCL my friend, you are obviously the one who needs advice to get your kids on a higher playing level. Rides home with me as just fine as my kid listens to his music and I do not preach about what he should have done. How am I frustrated? My kid plays at a level yours will probably never achieve if they are playing SCCL. My kid is a straight A student, what about yours? Your lottery ticket analogy shows what an intelligent dummy you are. People always want to try to insult people on this forum for no reason. Enjoy paying thousands of dollars for crappy soccer. Funny thing is, with my kid playing with an MLS academy for free, I have more cash to save for college but in reality he will probably get academic scholarships so I will just give him that money because he has saved me from paying college tuition prices to play youth soccer. You are barking up the wrong tree. Go enjoy hanging out with the soccer parents who probably don’t like you. Whoa. That escalated. I don't understand the need to harp on other people's kids. Yes, your kid wants to go pro. Power to him. I genuinely hope he makes it if that's what he wants. I know a couple of professional players and a few semi-pro players and some former pro players. One thing they have in common is their mindset which seems to be the exact opposite of yours. In fact, the former pro players who help my daughter emphasize how important it is for soccer to not be 100% of your life. How you need to do things outside of soccer and not just school. You need to find a hobby, serve your community, do anything to get to know yourself better as someone outside of being an athlete or student. We don't know your kid so we have no ability to gauge whether that is a "viable" option for him, at least in our eyes. That said, what I do know is that cultivating an environment of a "dog eat dog" world and no friends has not worked for any of the people that I know who have been and are still successful at a professional level. Moreover, I know for a fact reducing a child down to what league they play in will do nothing to benefit your child's success, so why do it? Food for thought. Well said. I just know that dog eat dog is not the way that anyone finds joy in whatever their job is in the long run. It is ok to be serious. It is great to support your child’s dream. I am happy that Flix’s child is doing well in school too. Sounds like a smart kid with a dream and a back up plan. I just hope he has some good solid friends at school that are in his corner because everyone needs a few good supportive friends and teens don’t have as many of those as they should. I hope that ppl here can learn to advise to the best of their knowledge without trashing others and especially their kids. I am sure I do it sometimes too and hope to be better also. |
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Post by bolo on Sept 18, 2023 10:34:39 GMT -5
If you re read my post, it says they want to have fun and compete against other kids. Playing rec wouldn't be much competition. They do play "rec" in other sports and have a blast (basketball, flag football, etc.). The league doesn't matter as much, one of my kids does SCCL but that is the appropriate level. So they compete there. Time and money are separate questions, for me personally I don't mind either of those commitments, but I do not like nationals and many of the away tournaments that now seem so mandatory for teams. I guess the reason is they don't need to go to those tournaments typically to have fun and compete. I always love a good preseason tournament, if it is drivable, so the kids and parents on the the team can get to know one another. That’s sweet you like going to tournaments so the kids and parents can get to know each other. I have always believed there are no friends in the soccer world as it’s dog eat dog. Let’s see how friendly you are when your friend has taken your spot and you are on the bench. I don’t need any advice from you as your kid plays SCCL my friend, you are obviously the one who needs advice to get your kids on a higher playing level....My kid plays at a level yours will probably never achieve if they are playing SCCL. My kid is a straight A student, what about yours? Your lottery ticket analogy shows what an intelligent dummy you are. People always want to try to insult people on this forum for no reason. [**NOTE- Followed quickly by an insult!] Enjoy paying thousands of dollars for crappy soccer. Funny thing is, with my kid playing with an MLS academy for free, I have more cash to save for college but in reality he will probably get academic scholarships so I will just give him that money because he has saved me from paying college tuition prices to play youth soccer. You are barking up the wrong tree. Go enjoy hanging out with the soccer parents who probably don’t like you. Man, I guess I always knew there were parents out there like this, but you rarely see them come out so clearly and forcefully. I'm genuinely sad for people who cannot make friends with the other parents on their kids' teams because they apparently only care about their kid's place on the team. You always hear about parents living vicariously through their kids, and how sad that is, but I guess it's a welcome reality for some. There's a big difference between supporting and helping your own kids, and putting down others and their kids just because they might not be as good at kicking a ball as your kid is. And what a great example to set by refusing to even try to be friends with the other parents. Imagine that mindset- I'm never going to be friends with other parents I see on a regular basis because of how what happens on the field with our kids might impact that. So bizarre. |
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Post by soccerdad16 on Sept 18, 2023 11:44:16 GMT -5
The comments about ECNL are funny from flix. Playing in High is a draw for ECNL kids not a negative. Also, for MLS Next, outside of the MLS academies the competition is going to be the same or even less then the clubs that are in ECNL. And for some evidence on the joy have playing for High school, look no further then- Joao Paulo Ramos. At an MLS academy and played for Walton because of what high school soccer can mean.
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