mars
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Post by mars on Oct 9, 2023 11:54:31 GMT -5
Is there bad blood between the clubs? It seems like AFU is borderline obsessed with beating Concorde.
Before anyone assumes anything my children play at AFU and they like their teams. I’m simply confused lol and feel like I might have missed something. It seems like every preseason pep talk includes a goal of beating Concorde.
Definitely gives off one-sided rivalry vibes but maybe it’s not?
I would ask our parents but I think I will receive a more holistic view of the situation (if there is one) here.
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Post by soccergurl on Oct 9, 2023 13:32:37 GMT -5
|me tink afu n cf not real rival| |me tink it ok to wan beat cf| |me tink dey one of best team in atl| |me tink u try 2 start drama| |me tink u have ulterior motive| |me tink it best u reveal y u care|
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Post by cluelessparents on Oct 9, 2023 13:56:13 GMT -5
Concorde, especially platinum, is historically the highest ranked local club for both boys and girls. Has nothing to do with development they just have a very large base to pick from and are bound to have good players. I would assume most clubs want to knock them off. Doesn’t mean as much to Concorde because they will still be on top win or lose. When you don’t win as often(assuming winning games means something to you) knocking off the top dog can at least make you feel good.
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Post by atlantagray on Oct 9, 2023 14:06:48 GMT -5
Concorde, especially platinum, is historically the highest ranked local club for both boys and girls. Has nothing to do with development they just have a very large base to pick from and are bound to have good players. I would assume most clubs want to knock them off. Doesn’t mean as much to Concorde because they will still be on top win or lose. When you don’t win as often(assuming winning games means something to you) knocking off the top dog can at least make you feel good. I think it's just as simple as this..unless there are players/parents from your specific age group that left AFU for Concorde (and left bad blood.) Though I am a little surprised they don't look at GSA as a rivalry being AFU is sort of equidistant between those 2 clubs, and GSA is no slouch
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Post by katieatlsoccer on Oct 9, 2023 14:22:27 GMT -5
I’m glad someone asked this because on the academy side earlier this year AFU spring matches with CF Central were all canceled last minute. This fall AFU and CF is not on the schedule at all for Academy, which is a shame in my view because I always enjoyed the competitiveness of those matches.
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Post by NotherSoccerParent on Oct 9, 2023 17:14:16 GMT -5
Historically, at least on the boys ECNL side, AFU has not been one of the stronger clubs in the Atlanta area whereas Concorde Platinum is usually in the top 3 across all age groups. For this reason, I can see why AFU would want to beat Concorde because everyone always want to beat the top teams. If there was a true local rivalry, I would say that it's between Platinum and NASA. Funny thing is the more clubs hate each other, the more they never seem to play each other.
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mars
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Post by mars on Oct 10, 2023 23:30:21 GMT -5
Concorde, especially platinum, is historically the highest ranked local club for both boys and girls. Has nothing to do with development they just have a very large base to pick from and are bound to have good players. I would assume most clubs want to knock them off. Doesn’t mean as much to Concorde because they will still be on top win or lose. When you don’t win as often(assuming winning games means something to you) knocking off the top dog can at least make you feel good. I think it's just as simple as this..unless there are players/parents from your specific age group that left AFU for Concorde (and left bad blood.) Though I am a little surprised they don't look at GSA as a rivalry being AFU is sort of equidistant between those 2 clubs, and GSA is no slouch GSA is a rival for sure for one of my kids teams. Concorde seems to be an across the board rival. I asked one of my kids about GSA and she said a few of her friends used to play there. Thanks for your response! I was a gymnastics mom for the past few years so I’m trying to transition into soccer mom mode and learn the who’s who.
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mars
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Post by mars on Oct 10, 2023 23:45:48 GMT -5
|me tink afu n cf not real rival| |me tink it ok to wan beat cf| |me tink dey one of best team in atl| |me tink u try 2 start drama| |me tink u have ulterior motive| |me tink it best u reveal y u care| Kind of unsure what an ulterior motive for this question would be? I thought I made it obvious that I would like to know about any drama that has ensued between Concorde and AFU. The soccer community is new to me. I’m judging teams based on if I think their uniforms are cute. Anything to add a little history to a team or rivalry is welcome. Right now all opponents have blended into a singular team called “the other guys”.
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Post by soccernoleuk on Oct 11, 2023 6:21:48 GMT -5
Take a look at the directors at AFU and where they came from. You will quickly see why they want to beat Concorde so badly. There is also a rift between the clubs at the moment, for various reasons, though I think the issue is mainly on the AFU side.
In regards to the AFU / GSA "rivalry" mentioned above, that seems to be more one sided at GSA. This stems mostly from the former Dacula Soccer Club Directors who are now at GSA.
If a book were ever written about youth soccer in Metro Atlanta, both of these topics would receive multiple chapters each.
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Post by atlnoleg on Oct 11, 2023 6:38:58 GMT -5
I came to this somewhat late, having moved my kids from a smaller club to NASA after their first three years. I remember our first year the parents of the kids who made up the bulk of the roster that had been together for years had a special desire to beat GSA. I don't know if there was any bad blood, rather I think they just could never break through and beat them til our first year there. There was also a bit of tension with Roswell, where there was quite a bit of crossover from kids who left one club for the other at the academy level. Most of those kids ended up back at NASA at the select age anyway.
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mars
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Post by mars on Oct 11, 2023 11:16:31 GMT -5
Take a look at the directors at AFU and where they came from. You will quickly see why they want to beat Concorde so badly. There is also a rift between the clubs at the moment, for various reasons, though I think the issue is mainly on the AFU side. In regards to the AFU / GSA "rivalry" mentioned above, that seems to be more one sided at GSA. This stems mostly from the former Dacula Soccer Club Directors who are now at GSA. If a book were ever written about youth soccer in Metro Atlanta, both of these topics would receive multiple chapters each. Okay. I knew there had to be something going on between staff. That’s interesting. My daughter did say that her teammates left GSA and Concorde so maybe that refueled former issues at least on her team. Maybe the rest of the teams are trying to do right by their bosses? Thanks for your response!
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Post by cluelessparents on Oct 12, 2023 13:11:36 GMT -5
This entire thread is the problem with soccer in America. Who cares if you win or lose. It is all about individual development and getting onto the next level. You can be a great player on a terrible team and still go to a nice school to play or better yet you never play again after youth and just enjoy what you have because a medal or trophy really doesn’t meant a thing. Bunch of loser parents trying to live through their kids.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Oct 12, 2023 16:21:28 GMT -5
IMO AFU is on the outside looking in at the the rest of the Big 5. As such, I don't think they are really much of a club rival to any of them.
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Post by soccergurl on Oct 13, 2023 10:21:00 GMT -5
Take a look at the directors at AFU and where they came from. You will quickly see why they want to beat Concorde so badly. There is also a rift between the clubs at the moment, for various reasons, though I think the issue is mainly on the AFU side. In regards to the AFU / GSA "rivalry" mentioned above, that seems to be more one sided at GSA. This stems mostly from the former Dacula Soccer Club Directors who are now at GSA. If a book were ever written about youth soccer in Metro Atlanta, both of these topics would receive multiple chapters each. |me here doc at afu the problem| |me here afu got problems as usual|
|me here his say his top team blaaa|
|me here playas not happy wit him| |me here parents not happy wit him| |me here he say he not happy wit his team| |me here say he wan release playas| |me here say families do not care| |me here say families have commit| |me here say families hapi this is last year|
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mars
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Post by mars on Oct 13, 2023 17:17:43 GMT -5
This entire thread is the problem with soccer in America. Who cares if you win or lose. It is all about individual development and getting onto the next level. You can be a great player on a terrible team and still go to a nice school to play or better yet you never play again after youth and just enjoy what you have because a medal or trophy really doesn’t meant a thing. Bunch of loser parents trying to live through their kids. I started this because I don’t really know anything about the clubs and wanted to know what if anything was going on. I’m nosy and it’s kind of fun for them to have a youth team rival. I just wasn’t sure if it was one sided. From what I read it probably is and I’m totally okay with my kids being the underdogs. I don’t actually care if the rivalry is real or if my child wins or loses outside of selfishly wanting my children to be happy on the drive home. From what I have seen everybody has been straightforward and I didn’t see anything that is disagreeing with personal development being super important. I could have missed something because I’m viewing it on my phone. Calling people a bunch of losers because they answered my question is mean. (Which btw is the most pc way I could think of to ask “what’s the tea?”) It says wayyy more about you than anyone else. Maybe I’m unpopular but I think competition can be fun and an important part of developing. So even if a parent does prioritize it it doesn’t mean they are a bad person. I don’t believe you have to have one without the other all the time growing up. Anyway. Have a nice one. Be well ☀️
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Post by mars on Oct 13, 2023 17:18:29 GMT -5
Take a look at the directors at AFU and where they came from. You will quickly see why they want to beat Concorde so badly. There is also a rift between the clubs at the moment, for various reasons, though I think the issue is mainly on the AFU side. In regards to the AFU / GSA "rivalry" mentioned above, that seems to be more one sided at GSA. This stems mostly from the former Dacula Soccer Club Directors who are now at GSA. If a book were ever written about youth soccer in Metro Atlanta, both of these topics would receive multiple chapters each. |me here doc at afu the problem| |me here afu got problems as usual|
|me here his say his top team blaaa|
|me here playas not happy wit him| |me here parents not happy wit him| |me here he say he not happy wit his team| |me here say he wan release playas| |me here say families do not care| |me here say families have commit| |me here say families hapi this is last year|
I don’t know if this is true but if it is that’s disappointing to hear.
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Post by ball2futbol on Oct 13, 2023 18:02:41 GMT -5
IMO AFU is on the outside looking in at the the rest of the Big 5. As such, I don't think they are really much of a club rival to any of them. The only club that’s truly on the outside looking in these days is TH (no shade just facts). Every other club (Top 5) is a toss up based upon age group and at the older age groups injuries YOY take a toll. With the constant movement in metro atlanta that trend won’t change anytime soon. The real rivalries these days are within parents heads. Who have a vendetta with a club or coach they felt did lil Mia wrong. Once they’re in HS it’s about a friendly level of competition with a little personal beef here and there but club rivalries, nah. TH and CF killed that opportunity years ago.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Oct 13, 2023 21:15:27 GMT -5
|me here doc at afu the problem| |me here afu got problems as usual|
|me here his say his top team blaaa|
|me here playas not happy wit him| |me here parents not happy wit him| |me here he say he not happy wit his team| |me here say he wan release playas| |me here say families do not care| |me here say families have commit| |me here say families hapi this is last year|
I don’t know if this is true but if it is that’s disappointing to hear. Like you, I agree, that would be disappointing. I'm also curious if this is real. I wonder if anyone with "real" insight can share the details and validity of this?
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Post by yzyw on Oct 14, 2023 9:13:43 GMT -5
The reason is simple. Both AFU and CF expanded their practice fields to the newly opened Cauley Creek Park.
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on Oct 14, 2023 23:09:22 GMT -5
Take a look at the directors at AFU and where they came from. You will quickly see why they want to beat Concorde so badly. There is also a rift between the clubs at the moment, for various reasons, though I think the issue is mainly on the AFU side. In regards to the AFU / GSA "rivalry" mentioned above, that seems to be more one sided at GSA. This stems mostly from the former Dacula Soccer Club Directors who are now at GSA. If a book were ever written about youth soccer in Metro Atlanta, both of these topics would receive multiple chapters each. |me here doc at afu the problem| |me here afu got problems as usual|
|me here his say his top team blaaa|
|me here playas not happy wit him| |me here parents not happy wit him| |me here he say he not happy wit his team| |me here say he wan release playas| |me here say families do not care| |me here say families have commit| |me here say families hapi this is last year|
B or G?
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Post by soccergurl on Oct 15, 2023 7:04:31 GMT -5
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Post by ATLSoccerGirl on Jan 10, 2024 13:21:34 GMT -5
IMO AFU is on the outside looking in at the the rest of the Big 5. As such, I don't think they are really much of a club rival to any of them. The only club that’s truly on the outside looking in these days is TH (no shade just facts). Every other club (Top 5) is a toss up based upon age group and at the older age groups injuries YOY take a toll. With the constant movement in metro atlanta that trend won’t change anytime soon. The real rivalries these days are within parents heads. Who have a vendetta with a club or coach they felt did lil Mia wrong. Once they’re in HS it’s about a friendly level of competition with a little personal beef here and there but club rivalries, nah. TH and CF killed that opportunity years ago. Wondering what you meant about TH and CF killed that opportunity years ago? Did something happen?
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Post by Panenka on Apr 16, 2024 23:02:11 GMT -5
I’m glad someone asked this because on the academy side earlier this year AFU spring matches with CF Central were all canceled last minute. This fall AFU and CF is not on the schedule at all for Academy, which is a shame in my view because I always enjoyed the competitiveness of those matches. Unfortunately the list of clubs that AFU Academy doesn’t play against continues to get longer: 1) Concorde Central 2) GSA 3) UFA 4) Some Nasa locations. This applies to regular season games as well as tournaments hosted by those clubs.
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