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Post by hmjones312 on Oct 20, 2023 20:41:03 GMT -5
We are currently looking to move to a new association. My daughter has played for a group that has became a waste of time. I have submitted tons of videos of the coaching and proof of our lack of adequate coaching. It’s no secret. Half of the year is paid, we are 2.5 months into that. Tournament fees are paid. I stopped payment on the next payment as we will not be continuing with them. We have moved to a better fitted team. The former team knows all of this but refuses to give us her player card bc of the stopped payment. What are my options?
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Post by Keeper on Oct 20, 2023 21:11:06 GMT -5
We are currently looking to move to a new association. My daughter has played for a group that has became a waste of time. I have submitted tons of videos of the coaching and proof of our lack of adequate coaching. It’s no secret. Half of the year is paid, we are 2.5 months into that. Tournament fees are paid. I stopped payment on the next payment as we will not be continuing with them. We have moved to a better fitted team. The former team knows all of this but refuses to give us her player card bc of the stopped payment. What are my options? Not much except move to a club that’s not part of the same league. Ie move from SCCL to Ga Soccer. If you’re making a move from one SCCL club to another SCCL club you’ll probably have to pay the full year financial obligations. If it’s Ga Soccer then you can appeal to Ga Soccer but they’ll probably tell you the same thing, pay in full to get released. What league are you currently in? |
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Post by newposter on Oct 20, 2023 22:13:28 GMT -5
We are currently looking to move to a new association. My daughter has played for a group that has became a waste of time. I have submitted tons of videos of the coaching and proof of our lack of adequate coaching. It’s no secret. Half of the year is paid, we are 2.5 months into that. Tournament fees are paid. I stopped payment on the next payment as we will not be continuing with them. We have moved to a better fitted team. The former team knows all of this but refuses to give us her player card bc of the stopped payment. What are my options? Not much except move to a club that’s not part of the same league. Ie move from SCCL to Ga Soccer. If you’re making a move from one SCCL club to another SCCL club you’ll probably have to pay the full year financial obligations. If it’s Ga Soccer then you can appeal to Ga Soccer but they’ll probably tell you the same thing, pay in full to get released. What league are you currently in? True statement. The team could require you to pay and still not release your player. Unfortunately, its a yearlong commitment. Another club may not take your on their roster until the next tryout season as that is common practice. Good luck! |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Oct 20, 2023 22:43:32 GMT -5
I am sorry that you had an unhappy experience. It is a major shame that the system is so crazy that you have a low chance of being able to switch clubs without paying for the whole year. Sad system.
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Post by soccernoleuk on Oct 21, 2023 8:29:51 GMT -5
There are 2 governing bodies for youth soccer...US Club Soccer (ECNL, ECRL, SCCL) and US Youth Soccer (GAL, DPL, Elite-64). In Georgia Academy teams that are registered with GA Soccer are US Youth Soccer.
If you are moving between the organizations, you shouldn't need the player card since the player will need to be registered again anyhow & get a new player card. The 2 organizations don't talk, so one won't stop you from registering with the other.
If you are moving to a new club and will be registered within the same organization, then you will need to be released from the first club. More than likely the only way this will happen is to fully fulfill the financial obligation for the entire year. Once this is complete the club really can't keep you from leaving, and US Club or US Youth should back you once you show everything is paid.
Good luck!
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Post by newguy on Oct 21, 2023 14:30:16 GMT -5
There are 2 governing bodies for youth soccer...US Club Soccer (ECNL, ECRL, SCCL) and US Youth Soccer (GAL, DPL, Elite-64). In Georgia Academy teams that are registered with GA Soccer are US Youth Soccer. If you are moving between the organizations, you shouldn't need the player card since the player will need to be registered again anyhow & get a new player card. The 2 organizations don't talk, so one won't stop you from registering with the other. If you are moving to a new club and will be registered within the same organization, then you will need to be released from the first club. More than likely the only way this will happen is to fully fulfill the financial obligation for the entire year. Once this is complete the club really can't keep you from leaving, and US Club or US Youth should back you once you show everything is paid. Good luck! Does MLS Next fall under US youth or is it a third option? If unaffiliated it could open up opportunities at SSA, Inter, LSA, and AFU couldn’t it? |
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Post by bolo on Oct 21, 2023 20:25:36 GMT -5
We are currently looking to move to a new association. My daughter has played for a group that has became a waste of time. I have submitted tons of videos of the coaching and proof of our lack of adequate coaching. It’s no secret. Half of the year is paid, we are 2.5 months into that. Tournament fees are paid. I stopped payment on the next payment as we will not be continuing with them. We have moved to a better fitted team. The former team knows all of this but refuses to give us her player card bc of the stopped payment. What are my options? I want to hear more about the tons of videos you’ve submitted. What exactly are you displaying and who are you sending them to? |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Oct 22, 2023 7:57:59 GMT -5
There are 2 governing bodies for youth soccer...US Club Soccer (ECNL, ECRL, SCCL) and US Youth Soccer (GAL, DPL, Elite-64). In Georgia Academy teams that are registered with GA Soccer are US Youth Soccer. If you are moving between the organizations, you shouldn't need the player card since the player will need to be registered again anyhow & get a new player card. The 2 organizations don't talk, so one won't stop you from registering with the other. If you are moving to a new club and will be registered within the same organization, then you will need to be released from the first club. More than likely the only way this will happen is to fully fulfill the financial obligation for the entire year. Once this is complete the club really can't keep you from leaving, and US Club or US Youth should back you once you show everything is paid. Good luck! Does MLS Next fall under US youth or is it a third option? If unaffiliated it could open up opportunities at SSA, Inter, LSA, and AFU couldn’t it? MLS Next is managed by MLS, but falls under the US Youth Soccer umbrella. |
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Post by soccerrivals on Oct 22, 2023 13:13:06 GMT -5
Does MLS Next fall under US youth or is it a third option? If unaffiliated it could open up opportunities at SSA, Inter, LSA, and AFU couldn’t it? MLS Next is managed by MLS, but falls under the US Youth Soccer umbrella. Does that mean that you technically can play MLS Next as well as ECN/RL during the same season? |
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Post by mightydawg on Oct 23, 2023 5:46:37 GMT -5
MLS Next is managed by MLS, but falls under the US Youth Soccer umbrella. Does that mean that you technically can play MLS Next as well as ECN/RL during the same season? Yes, except MLS Next prevents you from playing any other sport or with any other team. |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Oct 23, 2023 6:00:34 GMT -5
MLS Next is managed by MLS, but falls under the US Youth Soccer umbrella. Does that mean that you technically can play MLS Next as well as ECN/RL during the same season? Theoretically yes. It also means that theoretically a girl could play GAL, say for TopHat, and ECNL, say for Concorde. As Mightydawg pointed out though, MLS Next prevents this on the boys side. I am nto aware of a rule for ECNL or GAL preventing this, but time limitations certainly keep it from happening. Now moving from one to the other has happened, and I have seen it. |
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Oct 23, 2023 6:56:49 GMT -5
Does that mean that you technically can play MLS Next as well as ECN/RL during the same season? Theoretically yes. It also means that theoretically a girl could play GAL, say for TopHat, and ECNL, say for Concorde. As Mightydawg pointed out though, MLS Next prevents this on the boys side. I am nto aware of a rule for ECNL or GAL preventing this, but time limitations certainly keep it from happening. Now moving from one to the other has happened, and I have seen it. There are definitely some girls that play in both leagues across the country. Some are in the national team pools, def not a secret. Solar brings girls in from all over the country. I haven't heard of any Georgia girls doing it yet. I would think the DOC egos here would prevent it. |
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Post by atlantagray on Oct 23, 2023 9:08:38 GMT -5
There are 2 governing bodies for youth soccer...US Club Soccer (ECNL, ECRL, SCCL) and US Youth Soccer (GAL, DPL, Elite-64). In Georgia Academy teams that are registered with GA Soccer are US Youth Soccer. If you are moving between the organizations, you shouldn't need the player card since the player will need to be registered again anyhow & get a new player card. The 2 organizations don't talk, so one won't stop you from registering with the other. If you are moving to a new club and will be registered within the same organization, then you will need to be released from the first club. More than likely the only way this will happen is to fully fulfill the financial obligation for the entire year. Once this is complete the club really can't keep you from leaving, and US Club or US Youth should back you once you show everything is paid. Good luck! I was looking at the USYS and GAL sites and couldnt find anything about usys being the governing body for gal. I see USSSA (whatever that is) is connected to GAL, but if you have a link or article or something about USYS being over GAL, i'd appreciate it. Was USYS over DA before it disbanded? |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Oct 23, 2023 9:21:43 GMT -5
So it is probably a good idea to make buddy buddy with the team manager when your kid starts playing, and get a digital copy (PDF) of your kid's player pass prior to making a stink about everything, or better yet ask for it early on stating your kid wants to guest play with their former team occasionally when it doesn't conflict with their team. I did this with my son, and I had not issues getting his player pass for that. That being said I didn't stop payment either. Had you gotten the player pass prior to stopping payment or making a fuss it wouldn't have went down the way it did.
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Post by soccernoleuk on Oct 23, 2023 16:52:23 GMT -5
There are 2 governing bodies for youth soccer...US Club Soccer (ECNL, ECRL, SCCL) and US Youth Soccer (GAL, DPL, Elite-64). In Georgia Academy teams that are registered with GA Soccer are US Youth Soccer. If you are moving between the organizations, you shouldn't need the player card since the player will need to be registered again anyhow & get a new player card. The 2 organizations don't talk, so one won't stop you from registering with the other. If you are moving to a new club and will be registered within the same organization, then you will need to be released from the first club. More than likely the only way this will happen is to fully fulfill the financial obligation for the entire year. Once this is complete the club really can't keep you from leaving, and US Club or US Youth should back you once you show everything is paid. Good luck! I was looking at the USYS and GAL sites and couldnt find anything about usys being the governing body for gal. I see USSSA (whatever that is) is connected to GAL, but if you have a link or article or something about USYS being over GAL, i'd appreciate it. Was USYS over DA before it disbanded? I believe this article covers what we are talking about... www.soccerwire.com/news/girls-academy-establishes-ties-with-us-youth-soccer-and-mls/#:~:text=The%20GA%20will%20operate%20in,and%20programming%20in%20the%20country. |
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Post by triffling on Oct 23, 2023 16:57:38 GMT -5
There are 2 governing bodies for youth soccer...US Club Soccer (ECNL, ECRL, SCCL) and US Youth Soccer (GAL, DPL, Elite-64). In Georgia Academy teams that are registered with GA Soccer are US Youth Soccer. If you are moving between the organizations, you shouldn't need the player card since the player will need to be registered again anyhow & get a new player card. The 2 organizations don't talk, so one won't stop you from registering with the other. If you are moving to a new club and will be registered within the same organization, then you will need to be released from the first club. More than likely the only way this will happen is to fully fulfill the financial obligation for the entire year. Once this is complete the club really can't keep you from leaving, and US Club or US Youth should back you once you show everything is paid. Good luck! I was looking at the USYS and GAL sites and couldnt find anything about usys being the governing body for gal. I see USSSA (whatever that is) is connected to GAL, but if you have a link or article or something about USYS being over GAL, i'd appreciate it. Was USYS over DA before it disbanded? United States Specialty Sports Association which is another approved governing body for soccer under the US Soccer umbrella. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Oct 25, 2023 12:52:56 GMT -5
MLS Next is managed by MLS, but falls under the US Youth Soccer umbrella. Does that mean that you technically can play MLS Next as well as ECN/RL during the same season? Yes, it does mean you can play as long as one doesn't complain to the governing body of the other. I know 4 kids who quietly do this... |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Nov 1, 2023 13:12:47 GMT -5
Good advice from a parent on raising high school age athletes...
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Post by olddog on Nov 11, 2023 10:22:34 GMT -5
There are five youth governing bodies: USYS (NAL, State Associations - GA Soccer is ours, Elite 64, National League)
US Club Soccer (ECNL, ECRL, NPL, SCCL and more)
USSSA (DPL, GAL, and others and also does lots of other sports)
AYSO (strictly soccer and rec only)
EYDP (MLS Next)
All fall under the purview of US Soccer. US Soccer bylaws allow governing bodies to restrict movement within a governing body but does not preclude the ability to play in multiple governing bodies simultaneously. The one exception is EYDP/MLS Next which has the authority to command total and complete player servitude.
If your child wants to switch governing bodies, there is nothing the local club can do about it and you do not need to have her pass to do so.
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