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Post by lajolla39 on Nov 12, 2023 21:27:00 GMT -5
Had the misfortune of having Tyler as a coach for my daughter a couple of years ago. We experienced everything you mentioned with the added bonus of him telling our team that he didn't want to coach them anymore at mid-season. He followed that up by having a hissy fit with the refs during a game (causing stoppage for several minutes), missing multiple games (not due to coaching conflicts) where one of our parents had to coach those games, and many more immature acts. We left TH to get away from Tyler, Rivah, and others that should not be coaching kids. Unfortunate, I agree. We were really hoping, based on past experience with coaches at TH that this would be a productive season. You would think that at GA level things would be taken a lot more seriously. These girls have zero time to waste. We are contemplating leaving TH for the first time ever. Is your kid on the 1st GA team (currently ranked #6 in the nation) or the 2nd TH GA team (currently ranked #291)? |
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Post by SoccerMom on Nov 13, 2023 6:15:26 GMT -5
Unfortunate, I agree. We were really hoping, based on past experience with coaches at TH that this would be a productive season. You would think that at GA level things would be taken a lot more seriously. These girls have zero time to waste. We are contemplating leaving TH for the first time ever. Is your kid on the 1st GA team (currently ranked #6 in the nation) or the 2nd TH GA team (currently ranked #291)? Why does it matter what team their kid plays in? |
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Post by rifle on Nov 13, 2023 6:22:28 GMT -5
Is your kid on the 1st GA team (currently ranked #6 in the nation) or the 2nd TH GA team (currently ranked #291)? Why does it matter what team their kid plays in? easier to seek and destroy the character, I presume. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Nov 13, 2023 6:26:56 GMT -5
Why does it matter what team their kid plays in? easier to seek and destroy the character, I presume. Ahh yes.... Who even looks at rankings anymore? Those became obsolete many years ago |
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Post by roki12 on Nov 13, 2023 7:57:08 GMT -5
It’s impossible to win in youth soccer. Rivah’s too mean, Tyler’s too nice… WTH.
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Post by lajolla39 on Nov 13, 2023 8:41:52 GMT -5
Why does it matter what team their kid plays in? easier to seek and destroy the character, I presume. It matters because clubs tend to assign their best coaches to the top team and second, third, fourth, etc best coaches to teams after the top teams. Sometimes 2nd 3rd team parents have expectations that don't align with reality. It's not bad to have high standards but you have to understand where you line up in club pecking order. If you're not happy I'm not suggesting that you should just make it work. You should be looking around at other clubs or at how to play on the th top team. |
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Post by lajolla39 on Nov 13, 2023 9:31:10 GMT -5
easier to seek and destroy the character, I presume. Ahh yes.... Who even looks at rankings anymore? Those became obsolete many years ago National rankings are free If you want to pay it can provide win/loss predictions + is very accurate if the teams play each other often. If the teams don't play each other as much it's less accurate. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Nov 13, 2023 9:40:19 GMT -5
Ahh yes.... Who even looks at rankings anymore? Those became obsolete many years ago National rankings are free If you want to pay it can provide win/loss predictions + is very accurate if the teams play each other often. If the teams don't play each other as much it's less accurate. Teams rarely play each other across different leagues. Rankings are now useless |
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Post by lajolla39 on Nov 13, 2023 9:46:07 GMT -5
usasportstatistics.net/National rankings are free If you want to pay it can provide win/loss predictions + is very accurate if the teams play each other often. If the teams don't play each other as much it's less accurate. Teams rarely play each other across different leagues. Rankings are now useless OK stick your head in the sand + ignore. Meanwhile everyone else is using it. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Nov 13, 2023 9:48:02 GMT -5
Teams rarely play each other across different leagues. Rankings are now useless OK stick your head in the sand + ignore. Meanwhile everyone else is using it. "Everyone" No one cares about these rankings. Have your kid play in a team that works for them instead of trying to chase the better team...and then get mad when it isn't. |
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Post by lajolla39 on Nov 13, 2023 10:02:19 GMT -5
OK stick your head in the sand + ignore. Meanwhile everyone else is using it. "Everyone" No one cares about these rankings. Have your kid play in a team that works for them instead of trying to chase the better team...and then get mad when it isn't. Ironically what you're trying to paint the rankings app as being bad for its actually doing to the big letter leagues. Before the rankings app ECNL, GA, MLSN, etc were able to sell "eliteness" by creating exclusivity. They grouped a couple of best clubs in a league + excluded everyone else. Now with the rankings app all teams have the same chance at being highly ranked. Clubs can no longer "hide" in a league + claim to be superior. |
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Post by atlantagray on Nov 13, 2023 10:03:36 GMT -5
OK stick your head in the sand + ignore. Meanwhile everyone else is using it. "Everyone" No one cares about these rankings. Have your kid play in a team that works for them instead of trying to chase the better team...and then get mad when it isn't. I use that app, and it's been surprisingly accurate as a predictor. GA has rankings by region as does ECNL, so it's not fair or honest to say "ratings are useless".. unless you think rankings were just always useless. They're useful in-league and with enough cross referencing over time in the older divisions, the combined rankings of GA/ECNL teams gives as accurate a picture as you could want for child soccer. |
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Post by Keeper on Nov 13, 2023 11:35:23 GMT -5
Are we really talking about rankings from some app? 🤣🤣🤣 what is this U9s from Concorde, nth and Ufa debating the best? I can’t believe people try to sell those things considering the amount of fractures in US Soccer. They can’t even get a proper ranking for college football and that’s far more sacred and funded then youth soccer.
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Post by lajolla39 on Nov 13, 2023 12:25:27 GMT -5
Are we really talking about rankings from some app? 🤣🤣🤣 what is this U9s from Concorde, nth and Ufa debating the best? I can’t believe people try to sell those things considering the amount of fractures in US Soccer. They can’t even get a proper ranking for college football and that’s far more sacred and funded then youth soccer. Have you tried the youth soccer rankings app yet? Or are you just declaring it bad because that's been your experience with other ranking solutions? My experience is that if teams play each other a lot it's pretty good. If teams don't play each other as much it's not as good. (but not awful either) Ps. I agree with you that most rankings solutions are crap. This one is not. |
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Post by bogan on Nov 13, 2023 12:29:05 GMT -5
Are we really talking about rankings from some app? 🤣🤣🤣 what is this U9s from Concorde, nth and Ufa debating the best? I can’t believe people try to sell those things considering the amount of fractures in US Soccer. They can’t even get a proper ranking for college football and that’s far more sacred and funded then youth soccer. Have you tried the youth soccer rankings app yet? Or are you just declaring it bad because that's been your experience with other ranking solutions? My experience is that if teams play each other a lot it's pretty good. If teams don't play each other as much it's not as good. (but not awful either) Ps. I agree with you that most rankings solutions are crap. This one is not. The app is ok if they play in the same league…if not…fugettaboutit. |
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Post by rpsoccer on Nov 13, 2023 12:32:44 GMT -5
Are we really talking about rankings from some app? 🤣🤣🤣 what is this U9s from Concorde, nth and Ufa debating the best? I can’t believe people try to sell those things considering the amount of fractures in US Soccer. They can’t even get a proper ranking for college football and that’s far more sacred and funded then youth soccer. I stopped taking that App seriously when I realized that coaches bring "guests" players to their teams. They bring a bunch of solid players to substitute their team players, let the "guest" players score couple of goals and sit them back, then that coach or club can claim that, their team was undefeated and outscored all other teams (ranking high in that app). Some kids and parents are aware of this, since at some point the kids know each other from school, or some of them have played for the same club in the past. I am not talking about TH GA Navy team or coach, but I have seen this happening in other teams. |
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Post by lajolla39 on Nov 13, 2023 12:36:24 GMT -5
Are we really talking about rankings from some app? 🤣🤣🤣 what is this U9s from Concorde, nth and Ufa debating the best? I can’t believe people try to sell those things considering the amount of fractures in US Soccer. They can’t even get a proper ranking for college football and that’s far more sacred and funded then youth soccer. I stopped taking that App seriously when I realized that coaches bring "guests" players to their teams. They bring a bunch of solid players to substitute their team players, let the "guest" players score couple of goals and sit them back, then that coach or club can claim that, their team was undefeated and outscored all other teams (ranking high in that app). Some kids and parents are aware of this, since at some point the kids know each other from school, or some of them have played for the same club in the past. I am not talking about TH GA Navy team or coach, but I have seen this happening in other teams. What's the difference if they're all the correct age? |
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Post by interestedspectator on Nov 13, 2023 13:35:46 GMT -5
easier to seek and destroy the character, I presume. It matters because clubs tend to assign their best coaches to the top team and second, third, fourth, etc best coaches to teams after the top teams. Sometimes 2nd 3rd team parents have expectations that don't align with reality. It's not bad to have high standards but you have to understand where you line up in club pecking order. If you're not happy I'm not suggesting that you should just make it work. You should be looking around at other clubs or at how to play on the th top team. Not always true. Some coaches at Tophat (and other clubs) coach lower level teams for a variety of different reasons, therefore the "lower level" teams sometimes have better coaches. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Nov 13, 2023 14:16:04 GMT -5
easier to seek and destroy the character, I presume. Ahh yes.... Who even looks at rankings anymore? Those became obsolete many years ago Sadly, for some, it's the holy grail by which all decisions are made... |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Nov 13, 2023 14:33:08 GMT -5
I believe I read that Tyler Sherman is new to TH GA. For those that dealt with him previously or currently what are your thoughts? Based on my observations and feedback from my daughter he's not structured or very technical and appears to be very playful with the girls. My daughter feels that practices aren't very challenging and a lot of time is spent joking around. We are starting to worry that we have wasted the first half of the season playing around. He is not the best when it comes to player development and tend to show favoritism towards the players that are easier to coach. Favoritism is not only shown during games, but also during practice. Meaning he focues on training his favorite players. It would be nice to have a coach that cares about the development of the entire team and not just select favorites on the team. I've also heard from several parents that when the girls ask for feedback on what they need to work on he doesn't provide any feedback. I believe that more parents are unhappy with him and would give the same feedback. We are having to spend money on outside training because the team trainings are not very productive:(! As parents, our opinion of the coach should matter considering how much we pay these clubs. IMHO, there is nothing worse than a coach who absolutely does not connect with your player. They have the opportunity to derail their development, allow them to pick up bad habits, or, worse yet, suck the joy out of the game for your kid. If you and your child don't feel it's a good fit, ask for a release and go somewhere else. If that isn't an option, consider playing on another team within the club that has a coach who is willing to meet the needs of the player. If that's not an option with your club, look to making a move. The earlier you get this sorted the better it is for your your kid... |
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Post by rpsoccer on Nov 13, 2023 15:45:45 GMT -5
I stopped taking that App seriously when I realized that coaches bring "guests" players to their teams. They bring a bunch of solid players to substitute their team players, let the "guest" players score couple of goals and sit them back, then that coach or club can claim that, their team was undefeated and outscored all other teams (ranking high in that app). Some kids and parents are aware of this, since at some point the kids know each other from school, or some of them have played for the same club in the past. I am not talking about TH GA Navy team or coach, but I have seen this happening in other teams. What's the difference if they're all the correct age? You mean what is the difference regarding the App (rankings)? Well, let say your team is facing that team (the one that usually brings guests players), then the question is who are you going to go against? Against the team with guest players, or the same team without the guest players, at that point the "ranking" become useless. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Nov 14, 2023 7:38:19 GMT -5
I stopped taking that App seriously when I realized that coaches bring "guests" players to their teams. They bring a bunch of solid players to substitute their team players, let the "guest" players score couple of goals and sit them back, then that coach or club can claim that, their team was undefeated and outscored all other teams (ranking high in that app). Some kids and parents are aware of this, since at some point the kids know each other from school, or some of them have played for the same club in the past. I am not talking about TH GA Navy team or coach, but I have seen this happening in other teams. What's the difference if they're all the correct age? I tend to agree, who cares if they’re within the same age group. But it is quite funny to see the one kid with a jersey kit from two years prior and a couple sizes too small. Rolling out onto the field with a tapped on number “75” that was clearly “15” earlier that morning. |
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Post by lajolla39 on Nov 14, 2023 10:49:59 GMT -5
What's the difference if they're all the correct age? I tend to agree, who cares if they’re within the same age group. But it is quite funny to see the one kid with a jersey kit from two years prior and a couple sizes too small. Rolling out onto the field with a tapped on number “75” that was clearly “15” earlier that morning. 100% agree but when they're younger playing in 2 (or maybe even more) games per day while not ideal isn't that big of an issue. Once they hit GA/ECNL/MLSN there's rules about playing in more than one game per day. It's funny once they get used to playing in one game per day it's hard to go back to playing in big tournaments where you're expected to play in 2 games per day so everything can be compressed into a single weekend. |
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