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Post by alwayssoccering on Feb 1, 2024 11:19:45 GMT -5
My 2014 son plays on a great team, all the boys and their parents are dedicated and wonderful. Our coach, an overall nice guy, but has been flighty and not great with communication for sometime. The team manager saves him a lot with pretty much handling everything, minus practices and coaching the games. Lately, he has been missing practices because of a second job he has had to picked up. One practice he showed up 50+ minutes late, when we only had an indoor field reservation for 60 minutes. Last night, he no showed on a scrimmage. This weekend, he cannot attend our tourney, he has work the weekend with the other job.
At what point do you begin to question whether he can handle coaching the boys and having his other job? Currently they don't seem to be meshing well. Also, I am all for someone making money, I respect the hustle, but the team pays him to host two practices a week and be at games. Definitely not even close enough to live on (est. $900ish a month), but also a commitment that you made with the families. I like the coach, but I can see and I'm hearing the other parents questioning if he can handle both. I would love any advice you kind folks can offer. Thank you!
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Post by terimakasih12 on Feb 1, 2024 11:56:08 GMT -5
I think you are already at the point where the coach can’t handle his commitments to the team and second job. Have you considered getting the manager to discuss the concerns with the coach? That would be a good first step. You should also go to the Director of Coaching to ensure the concerns get more visibility. I recommend addressing the situation now so it doesn’t get worse. Plus, if things go south this will give the club ample time to find a replacement.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Feb 1, 2024 11:56:10 GMT -5
You should let the club know ASAP. JMO.
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Post by rifle on Feb 1, 2024 13:28:59 GMT -5
I think you are already at the point where the coach can’t handle his commitments to the team and second job. Have you considered getting the manager to discuss the concerns with the coach? That would be a good first step. You should also go to the Director of Coaching to ensure the concerns get more visibility. I recommend addressing the situation now so it doesn’t get worse. Plus, if things go south this will give the club ample time to find a replacement. Raise your hand if you want to be TM? The TM role is a huge pain in the back side without having to be the aggregator of grievances. And… This is why clubs have a DOC. Talk to them. |
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Post by atlnoleg on Feb 2, 2024 7:12:04 GMT -5
Is another coach filling in for him at these practices and games? While not a perfect solution, if there's another club coach overseeing the kids that's one thing if it's a temporary situation. If there's nobody and it's left to the manager or parents, then that has to be brought to the attention of the director. You and your fellow team parents are not getting what you're paying a lot of money for, and the kids are basically getting screwed in the process.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Feb 2, 2024 10:17:45 GMT -5
My 2014 son plays on a great team, all the boys and their parents are dedicated and wonderful. Our coach, an overall nice guy, but has been flighty and not great with communication for sometime. The team manager saves him a lot with pretty much handling everything, minus practices and coaching the games. Lately, he has been missing practices because of a second job he has had to picked up. One practice he showed up 50+ minutes late, when we only had an indoor field reservation for 60 minutes. Last night, he no showed on a scrimmage. This weekend, he cannot attend our tourney, he has work the weekend with the other job. At what point do you begin to question whether he can handle coaching the boys and having his other job? Currently they don't seem to be meshing well. Also, I am all for someone making money, I respect the hustle, but the team pays him to host two practices a week and be at games. Definitely not even close enough to live on (est. $900ish a month), but also a commitment that you made with the families. I like the coach, but I can see and I'm hearing the other parents questioning if he can handle both. I would love any advice you kind folks can offer. Thank you! Sorry-Not-Sorry: You lost me, or rather caught my attention, at the mention of "has been missing practices (plural)." Frankly, when you're paying for a service, it's reasonable to expect that service to be delivered. In this case, your coach and the club as a whole are falling short on their end of the deal. The issue of his pay isn't something you should have to worry about; that's a matter for the overpaid Director of Coaching to address with him. On a more personal note, I find it incredibly disrespectful to waste the time of both the parents and the players. It doesn't matter if they're 9 or 10 years old; everyone's time is valuable. In my opinion, part of the responsibility of being a Team Manager is being the voice of the team. You're tasked with representing the players and parents and collaborating with the coach to ensure a seamless season. I understand that some may have differing views on the role of a Team Manager. However, there are times when you have to have those difficult conversations with the coach. And if necessary, it means taking matters up the chain of command to ensure that the team's needs are being met... |
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Post by alwayssoccering on Feb 2, 2024 13:16:04 GMT -5
Hi Everyone, thank you so much for your willingness to reply. You have all been so helpful! I have, as well as other parents spoke up about our concerns on the coach being stretched very thin and his missing practices, tournament dates and the overall lateness. I spoke with our manager again today, they are a saint to deal with this. She did reach out to Coach, to discuss with him the missed practice again this week and find out his availability for our next tournament. I was privy to his reply. The gist is he has to find a plan with working the other job. He really doesn't want to leave that but may have to.
Manager asked that an assistant coach be brought on until Coach could manage his time issues, figure out a plan, and reduce the overall turmoil. He said he would ask for a temp replacement, but stated we would not like who the organization sends. I thought that was a little weird/hostile of a statement. This is a premier organization that charges more than most. I have generally been very impressed with the other coaches that my son has went to camps with... Manager did reiterate that we still wanted him to be our coach, we just need steady help till he can manage the new job. I think at this time, we need to reach out to the Director of Coaches to bring visibility to the situation.
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Post by terimakasih12 on Feb 2, 2024 14:16:22 GMT -5
Good luck! Hopefully the DOC can resolve the issue quickly!
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Post by newguy on Feb 2, 2024 22:25:30 GMT -5
Hi Everyone, thank you so much for your willingness to reply. You have all been so helpful! I have, as well as other parents spoke up about our concerns on the coach being stretched very thin and his missing practices, tournament dates and the overall lateness. I spoke with our manager again today, they are a saint to deal with this. She did reach out to Coach, to discuss with him the missed practice again this week and find out his availability for our next tournament. I was privy to his reply. The gist is he has to find a plan with working the other job. He really doesn't want to leave that but may have to. Manager asked that an assistant coach be brought on until Coach could manage his time issues, figure out a plan, and reduce the overall turmoil. He said he would ask for a temp replacement, but stated we would not like who the organization sends. I thought that was a little weird/hostile of a statement. This is a premier organization that charges more than most. I have generally been very impressed with the other coaches that my son has went to camps with... Manager did reiterate that we still wanted him to be our coach, we just need steady help till he can manage the new job. I think at this time, we need to reach out to the Director of Coaches to bring visibility to the situation. Curious if you are at a satellite location for one of the big clubs around town? |
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Post by missionimpossible on Feb 3, 2024 8:07:49 GMT -5
We had a similar issue years ago with a girls team coach. He had a bunch of other jobs and would cancel practice when he had a conflict or would forgo a tournament etc. We waited way too long and my wife finally e-mailed the DOC and got an immediate response. His words “this is unacceptable” and “I’ll take care of it”. We immediately saw a more dedicated coach but a little too late as the coach was fired mid season and one of the coaching directors took over the team.
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