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Post by mamadona on Feb 14, 2024 10:49:26 GMT -5
What is the policy for ear piercings? Do refs allow bandages on them or do they have to be taken out?
It’s really hard and not recommended to take new piercings out while they heal. My daughter wants it done but I’m thinking it might be best to wait until the season is over... But then there’s the problem of no swimming!
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Post by maze on Feb 14, 2024 10:53:20 GMT -5
Its at the ref's discretion but the rule is that they should come out. I have seen girls with band-aids/tape or the clear studs but the ref can always tell you they have to take them out or they can't play. With our daughter, we tried to find the small window after game/seasons were over and before new ones started up. As for swimming, we were told to just keep them clean like you would any wound. Hope this helps!
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Post by gasoccernewb on Feb 14, 2024 11:21:05 GMT -5
Best bet is to wait until the offseason. My daughter got her ears pierced in December, but they are not fully healed yet so she wears bandaids over her screw together studs. So far no complaints from the refs for club or high school.
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Post by rifle on Feb 14, 2024 21:50:03 GMT -5
Will 90 minutes with them removed really cause problems with new piercings?
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Feb 15, 2024 9:16:11 GMT -5
I generally make them take them off even if small studs covered by band-aids as those are the rules. Now if other referees are not observant and let people get away with it that is on them, but personally unless they are hiding it or something when I check them in they got to come off. Of course if they hide it from me at check-in then if I see them on the field I am going to be a bit more irritated since I generally make the statement of no jewelry to the players before the game.
I would advise waiting for the off-season. Surely any off-season piercing will heal before needing to play in actual games again.
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Post by mamadona on Feb 15, 2024 9:23:37 GMT -5
Will 90 minutes with them removed really cause problems with new piercings? Yes. You should not mess with new piercings. Not even "twist" them. It's really difficult and painful to put them back in, and it increases the risk for infection a lot. We will wait until the spring season is over!
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Post by mamadona on Feb 15, 2024 9:26:56 GMT -5
I generally make them take them off even if small studs covered by band-aids as those are the rules. Now if other referees are not observant and let people get away with it that is on them, but personally unless they are hiding it or something when I check them in they got to come off. Of course if they hide it from me at check-in then if I see them on the field I am going to be a bit more irritated since I generally make the statement of no jewelry to the players before the game. I would advise waiting for the off-season. Surely any off-season piercing will heal before needing to play in actual games again. Yes it should heal between May and August. It takes about 2 months I think. I don't even want her to do it! I think it's crazy to poke holes through your body for beauty but that's what most girls do and it's "pretty". (I have my ears pierced myself but rarely use them)
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Post by bolo on Feb 15, 2024 13:14:30 GMT -5
I generally make them take them off even if small studs covered by band-aids as those are the rules. Now if other referees are not observant and let people get away with it that is on them, but personally unless they are hiding it or something when I check them in they got to come off. Of course if they hide it from me at check-in then if I see them on the field I am going to be a bit more irritated since I generally make the statement of no jewelry to the players before the game. I would advise waiting for the off-season. Surely any off-season piercing will heal before needing to play in actual games again. Just out of curiosity, what “danger” would small studs covered by band-aids pose to anyone on the field- either the player with the piercings or the other players? Why is that even a rule/concern?
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Post by gtreferee on Feb 15, 2024 14:09:01 GMT -5
I generally make them take them off even if small studs covered by band-aids as those are the rules. Now if other referees are not observant and let people get away with it that is on them, but personally unless they are hiding it or something when I check them in they got to come off. Of course if they hide it from me at check-in then if I see them on the field I am going to be a bit more irritated since I generally make the statement of no jewelry to the players before the game. I would advise waiting for the off-season. Surely any off-season piercing will heal before needing to play in actual games again. Just out of curiosity, what “danger” would small studs covered by band-aids pose to anyone on the field- either the player with the piercings or the other players? Why is that even a rule/concern? The logic behind is that the danger can come from either the ball or an oponent. The ball can strike the ear and cause injury depending on the impact or a player accidentally or purposefully can grab it and hurt the player with the piercing. It is a minimal risk but it is something we as referees are required to manage per the laws of the game. TLDR the danger is low yes, but it is also very easy to get piercings during the off season or take them out for the 2 hour period of a game. Also as an aside I have 5x more issues with boys trying to play with ear or nose piercings than girls who tend to be much better about remembering to take off jewlery before the game.
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Post by mamadona on Feb 15, 2024 14:49:28 GMT -5
My non-soccer daughter told me that a girl at the cheer gym she used to go to, got her piercing accidentally ripped out during practice, and she had to have plastic surgery to fix her ear. So accidents can happen. But I think if bandaids are properly attached that should be a minimal risk. I don't think some people understand that if you have a fresh piercing it's not that easy to just take it out.
Thanks for all the responses. I don't want her to miss games so she will wait until May.
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Post by bolo on Feb 15, 2024 15:49:40 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, what “danger” would small studs covered by band-aids pose to anyone on the field- either the player with the piercings or the other players? Why is that even a rule/concern? The logic behind is that the danger can come from either the ball or an oponent. The ball can strike the ear and cause injury depending on the impact or a player accidentally or purposefully can grab it and hurt the player with the piercing. It is a minimal risk but it is something we as referees are required to manage per the laws of the game. TLDR the danger is low yes, but it is also very easy to get piercings during the off season or take them out for the 2 hour period of a game. Also as an aside I have 5x more issues with boys trying to play with ear or nose piercings than girls who tend to be much better about remembering to take off jewlery before the game. Got it, and yeah, I understand to an extent the extremely slight injury risk, but always thought band-aids could take care of that. But it's definitely a CYA situation for leagues/refs- just blanket ban them and you don't have to worry about it. As for the offseason, when is that, exactly?! I say that only half-kidding. With the regular season running through mid-May, then tryouts, then Regionals & Nationals for some players running though June & into July, then practice & preseason tournaments starting back up in early August, that window is pretty narrow for some players. Easier at younger ages without as much summer soccer for sure.
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Post by maze on Feb 16, 2024 10:45:29 GMT -5
The logic behind is that the danger can come from either the ball or an oponent. The ball can strike the ear and cause injury depending on the impact or a player accidentally or purposefully can grab it and hurt the player with the piercing. It is a minimal risk but it is something we as referees are required to manage per the laws of the game. TLDR the danger is low yes, but it is also very easy to get piercings during the off season or take them out for the 2 hour period of a game. Also as an aside I have 5x more issues with boys trying to play with ear or nose piercings than girls who tend to be much better about remembering to take off jewlery before the game. Got it, and yeah, I understand to an extent the extremely slight injury risk, but always thought band-aids could take care of that. But it's definitely a CYA situation for leagues/refs- just blanket ban them and you don't have to worry about it. As for the offseason, when is that, exactly?! I say that only half-kidding. With the regular season running through mid-May, then tryouts, then Regionals & Nationals for some players running though June & into July, then practice & preseason tournaments starting back up in early August, that window is pretty narrow for some players. Easier at younger ages without as much summer soccer for sure. We did it right after the last game/tournament and while tryouts were going on.
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Post by mamadona on Feb 16, 2024 16:23:27 GMT -5
Got it, and yeah, I understand to an extent the extremely slight injury risk, but always thought band-aids could take care of that. But it's definitely a CYA situation for leagues/refs- just blanket ban them and you don't have to worry about it. As for the offseason, when is that, exactly?! I say that only half-kidding. With the regular season running through mid-May, then tryouts, then Regionals & Nationals for some players running though June & into July, then practice & preseason tournaments starting back up in early August, that window is pretty narrow for some players. Easier at younger ages without as much summer soccer for sure. We did it right after the last game/tournament and while tryouts were going on. Did you use bandaids for tryouts? Or just nothing. I might make her wear bandaids for her own safety... although that will be SO EMBARRASSING! so probably not
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Post by maze on Feb 17, 2024 10:15:45 GMT -5
I don't think so. They were the small studs so not a huge concern.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Feb 26, 2024 10:36:05 GMT -5
The logic behind is that the danger can come from either the ball or an oponent. The ball can strike the ear and cause injury depending on the impact or a player accidentally or purposefully can grab it and hurt the player with the piercing. It is a minimal risk but it is something we as referees are required to manage per the laws of the game. TLDR the danger is low yes, but it is also very easy to get piercings during the off season or take them out for the 2 hour period of a game. Also as an aside I have 5x more issues with boys trying to play with ear or nose piercings than girls who tend to be much better about remembering to take off jewlery before the game. Got it, and yeah, I understand to an extent the extremely slight injury risk, but always thought band-aids could take care of that. But it's definitely a CYA situation for leagues/refs- just blanket ban them and you don't have to worry about it. As for the offseason, when is that, exactly?! I say that only half-kidding. With the regular season running through mid-May, then tryouts, then Regionals & Nationals for some players running though June & into July, then practice & preseason tournaments starting back up in early August, that window is pretty narrow for some players. Easier at younger ages without as much summer soccer for sure. Assignors and tournament/game officials for clubs make a huge deal on it, so that is why we do it. I probably would be inclined not to have a problem with a band aid but I do what the people who pay me tell me to do as long as it is within the rules of the game. I don't always agree with all the policies and rules, but it is what it is.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Feb 26, 2024 20:10:35 GMT -5
Personally we never used bandaids for tryouts or training sessions or scrimmages that weren’t refereed. Risk is low enough. Studs only of course. Earrings out once they can do it at 6 weeks after piercing is done. For my kid when there was a match we used the clear silicone earring studs in those first few weeks. That worked fine. Never had referees that allowed bandaids. But my kids had theirs done a long time ago and it was pretty strict.
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