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USMNT
Feb 26, 2024 12:04:50 GMT -5
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Post by missionimpossible on Feb 26, 2024 12:04:50 GMT -5
Top 11 US men’s players expected on NT (list from goal.com). Many are calling this the “golden generation”. The top players, on the top team in the country have always been a measuring stick of the US’s dysfunctional pyramid and make no mistake these players are special. However, it’s also very clear there is no US pyramid and in most cases the development path goes through Europe.
1. Christian Pulisic - MF/ F AC Milan, College: None, Youth: Various US clubs (including US DA) then Botussia Dortmund Academy.
2. Gio Reyna - AMF/ W Nottingham Forest, College: None, Youth = NYCFC then Borussia Dortmund Academy.
3. Weston McKennie - MF Juventus, College: None, Youth: FC Dallas and then Schalke.
4. Folarim Balogun - F Monaco, College: None. Youth: England Arsenal’s Hale’s End Academy.
5. Tim Weah - W Juventus, College: None. Youth: US DA then NY Red Bulls.
6. Tyler Adams - MF AFC Bournemouth, College: None. Youth: NY Red Bulls.
7. Yunus Musah - MF AC Milan, College: None. Youth: England Arsenal Hale’s End Academy
8. Antonee Robinson - Left OB Fulham, College: None. Youth: England Everton’s Academy
9. Matt Turner - G Nottingham Forest; College: Fairfield. Youth: Did not play soccer until age 14, High School
10. Chris Richards - CB Crystal Palace; College: None. Youth: Hoover SC, then Texans FC Houston, and then FC Dallas
11. Sergino Dest - OB PSV Eindhoven; College: None. Youth: Netherlands Ajax Academy
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USMNT
Feb 26, 2024 12:32:09 GMT -5
Post by lajolla39 on Feb 26, 2024 12:32:09 GMT -5
1 out of the 11 played in college
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Post by mamadona on Feb 26, 2024 12:33:59 GMT -5
And none play in the MLS
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Post by flix on Feb 26, 2024 13:22:59 GMT -5
I think that’s the most telling statistic. Great point. |
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Post by missionimpossible on Feb 26, 2024 14:02:08 GMT -5
Also, Balogun, Musah, Robinson, and Dest have likely never played in the US, to my knowledge, outside of the National team. Very talented players and dual citizenship players are nothing new. However, for a country that has 2.5-million boys in organized soccer for 36-percent of top players on the NT to be developed entirely outside of the US that’s significant and one would conclude the US, from a youth development standpoint, is doing a lot of things wrong. Very wrong. 😑
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Feb 26, 2024 16:23:24 GMT -5
Also, Balogun, Musah, Robinson, and Dest have likely never played in the US, to my knowledge, outside of the National team. Very talented players and dual citizenship players are nothing new. However, for a country that has 2.5-million boys in organized soccer for 36-percent of top players on the NT to be developed entirely outside of the US that’s significant and one would conclude the US, from a youth development standpoint, is doing a lot of things wrong. Very wrong. 😑 Sadly, the 2026 WC may be the defining moment where much of this comes to a head and our true lack of development gets exposed. Right now, I think we have a better chance of developing world class defenders as opposed to true forwards and strikers. Honestly, I don't have a problem with this generation garnering most of their development and skills from Europe and beyond. As long as those same players return home to one day coach and develop our future players... |
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USMNT
Feb 26, 2024 17:26:01 GMT -5
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Post by lajolla39 on Feb 26, 2024 17:26:01 GMT -5
Also, Balogun, Musah, Robinson, and Dest have likely never played in the US, to my knowledge, outside of the National team. Very talented players and dual citizenship players are nothing new. However, for a country that has 2.5-million boys in organized soccer for 36-percent of top players on the NT to be developed entirely outside of the US that’s significant and one would conclude the US, from a youth development standpoint, is doing a lot of things wrong. Very wrong. 😑 Sadly, the 2026 WC may be the defining moment where much of this comes to a head and our true lack of development gets exposed. Right now, I think we have a better chance of developing world class defenders as opposed to true forwards and strikers. Honestly, I don't have a problem with this generation garnering most of their development and skills from Europe and beyond. As long as those same players return home to one day coach and develop our future players... Personally, I'm rooting for the USL. Big European clubs could buy into the US market, play their second line, and still be more competitive beating MLS teams if given the opportunity. For both men and women! (women would need to be first line) |
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USMNT
Feb 26, 2024 17:43:15 GMT -5
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Post by missionimpossible on Feb 26, 2024 17:43:15 GMT -5
Also, Balogun, Musah, Robinson, and Dest have likely never played in the US, to my knowledge, outside of the National team. Very talented players and dual citizenship players are nothing new. However, for a country that has 2.5-million boys in organized soccer for 36-percent of top players on the NT to be developed entirely outside of the US that’s significant and one would conclude the US, from a youth development standpoint, is doing a lot of things wrong. Very wrong. 😑 Sadly, the 2026 WC may be the defining moment where much of this comes to a head and our true lack of development gets exposed. Right now, I think we have a better chance of developing world class defenders as opposed to true forwards and strikers. Honestly, I don't have a problem with this generation garnering most of their development and skills from Europe and beyond. As long as those same players return home to one day coach and develop our future players... Definitely behind the rest of the world in development of elite striikers but also outside backs. Robinson and Dest (dual citizenship) are both very good outside backs. This is just a hard, demanding position that is hard to fill with good players at every level. The national team iis no exception and its critical. The US men’s team seems to always have internationally born and developed outside backs. |
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Post by missionimpossible on Mar 14, 2024 7:37:33 GMT -5
What are thoughts on the USMNT Concacaf roster? IMO
Key players: Pulisic (F) and McKennie (MF), no question IMO red hot right now and proven playmakers
Strongest position: Outside Backs A. Robinson and S. Dest. IMO these are the best we’ve ever had at the position. Their athleticism, technical skills, and ability to get up the field make them situational playmakers and a comparative advantage for the US.
Wild cards: Turner (G) and T. Adams (MF). Flashes of greatness but inconsistent due to playing time or injuries. Basically, unknowns with a high upside.
Overhyped players with a lot to prove: G. Reyna (MF), C. Richards (CB), F. Balogun (F), J. Sargent (F). No one doubts there is talent here but can these guys compete and differentiate themselves against strong international competition?
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GOALKEEPERS (3): 22-Drake Callender (Inter Miami; 0/0), 18-Ethan Horvath (Cardiff City/WAL; 9/0), Matt Turner (Nottingham Forest/ENG; 37/0)
DEFENDERS (8): 2-Sergiño Dest (PSV Eindhoven/NED; 32/2), 23-Kristoffer Lund (Palermo/ITA; 3/0), 16-Mark McKenzie (Genk/BEL; 13/0), 13-Tim Ream (Fulham/ENG; 55/1), 3-Chris Richards (Crystal Palace/ENG; 14/1), 5-Antonee Robinson (Fulham/ENG; 39/4), 12-Miles Robinson (FC Cincinnati; 28/3), 19-Joe Scally (Borussia Mönchengladbach/GER; 8/0)
MIDFIELDERS (6): 4-Tyler Adams (Bournemouth/ENG; 36/1), 15-Johnny Cardoso (Real Betis/ESP; 9/0), 14-Luca de la Torre (Celta Vigo/ESP; 20/0), 8-Weston McKennie (Juventus/ITA; 49/11), 6-Yunus Musah (AC Milan/ITA; 33/0), 7-Gio Reyna (Nottingham Forest/ENG; 24/7)
FORWARDS (6): 20-Folarin Balogun (Monaco/FRA; 8/3), 17-Malik Tillman (PSV Eindhoven/NED; 8/0), 9-Ricardo Pepi (PSV Eindhoven/NED; 22/10), 10-Christian Pulisic (AC Milan/ITA; 64/28), 11-Josh Sargent (Norwich City/ENG; 23/5), 21-Tim Weah (Juventus/ITA; 35/5)
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Post by missionimpossible on Mar 14, 2024 9:29:37 GMT -5
Also, out of the 28 player roster, it’s interesting, only 2 (~7%) play in the MLS.
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