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Post by dreamsoccer on Mar 21, 2024 6:45:33 GMT -5
My thoughts are don't assume ur son/daughter is safe on current team. Tryouts can be extremely stressful for parents and athletes. You can go to ID camps before official tryouts with any potential team ( have to register). The last thing you want is a surprise on the 3rd day of tryouts when you were just being loyal. The only loyalty should be to ur son/daughter. Clubs will get rid of you in a heartbeat for the next "shiny" kid. Just my opinion....
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Post by atlantagray on Mar 21, 2024 7:03:42 GMT -5
My thoughts are don't assume ur son/daughter is safe on current team. Tryouts can be extremely stressful for parents and athletes. You can go to ID camps before official tryouts with any potential team ( have to register). The last thing you want is a surprise on the 3rd day of tryouts when you were just being loyal. The only loyalty should be to ur son/daughter. Clubs will get rid of you in a heartbeat for the next "shiny" kid. Just my opinion.... Agreed- Aside from Xs & Os coaching acumen, I need to see this in a youth coach- 1- At some point in the 2nd half of the season, give bubble players a heads up that they're on the bubble and improvement is needed with specific areas for improvement noted 2- Give players a week notice before tryouts that they're likely not going to make the 1st team (2nd team etc.) Let them explore other options on the 2nd/3rd day of tryouts openly and without fear of retribution. I get it; it's a competitive space, and coaches are coaching for their livelihood. But if i see a *youth coach without that minimum level of communication and understanding, then it's a red flag to me that there are issues in other areas of the team/player/coach dynamic. |
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Post by atlnoleg on Mar 21, 2024 7:13:33 GMT -5
This assumes the coach will give you an honest answer--or any answer. I pointedly asked that ahead of ID and got a long-winded but ultimately uninformative response and had to wait until 24 hours AFTER the third day of tryouts to get the final answer to find out kid's spot was taken. I know there was movement and some kids were deciding to accept their demotion to this team, but still, it was awful and I felt like it was somewhat intentionally done to keep us trying out elsewhere.
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Post by bogan on Mar 21, 2024 8:44:25 GMT -5
This assumes the coach will give you an honest answer--or any answer. I pointedly asked that ahead of ID and got a long-winded but ultimately uninformative response and had to wait until 24 hours AFTER the third day of tryouts to get the final answer to find out kid's spot was taken. I know there was movement and some kids were deciding to accept their demotion to this team, but still, it was awful and I felt like it was somewhat intentionally done to keep us trying out elsewhere. . It is intentionally done…completely intentional. Lock in revenue, get you under contract. Great sales tool…like taking your keys at the dealership. |
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Post by atlnoleg on Mar 21, 2024 8:58:20 GMT -5
This assumes the coach will give you an honest answer--or any answer. I pointedly asked that ahead of ID and got a long-winded but ultimately uninformative response and had to wait until 24 hours AFTER the third day of tryouts to get the final answer to find out kid's spot was taken. I know there was movement and some kids were deciding to accept their demotion to this team, but still, it was awful and I felt like it was somewhat intentionally done to keep us trying out elsewhere. . It is intentionally done…completely intentional. Lock in revenue, get you under contract. Great sales tool…like taking your keys at the dealership. Well, they lost that revenue so if that was the goal it backfired on them. No winners there. |
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Post by bogan on Mar 21, 2024 9:10:26 GMT -5
. It is intentionally done…completely intentional. Lock in revenue, get you under contract. Great sales tool…like taking your keys at the dealership. Well, they lost that revenue so if that was the goal it backfired on them. No winners there. For the vast majority it does work, though…or they wouldn’t keep doing it. |
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Post by maze on Mar 21, 2024 9:11:08 GMT -5
I would also recommend practicing with any of those potential teams starting in early May. But be aware that it could make it back your current team/coach and could work against you...or in your favor.
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Post by dreamsoccer on Mar 21, 2024 9:55:25 GMT -5
Insane how the politics works instead of doing what's best for the athlete. We spend too much money to be deceived!!!
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Post by bogan on Mar 21, 2024 10:04:06 GMT -5
Insane how the politics works instead of doing what's best for the athlete. We spend too much money to be deceived!!! True-how it works, though. I think it was rifle who said, “by the time you figure it out, your kid has aged out.” Or something like that. But it’s true. And it seems to most youth sports today. Everyone is looking for that edge…few find it. If I had it to do over I wouldn’t chase leagues that’s for sure. |
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on Mar 21, 2024 10:50:06 GMT -5
Insane how the politics works instead of doing what's best for the athlete. We spend too much money to be deceived!!! Youth sports/soccer is a one way road when it comes to loyalty. They preach how they want you to be loyal to them but they will cut you in a heartbeat. Some say unless the replacement is X times better you are safe but I am just not sure how much truth there is to that. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 21, 2024 11:11:15 GMT -5
Insane how the politics works instead of doing what's best for the athlete. We spend too much money to be deceived!!! Youth sports/soccer is a one way road when it comes to loyalty. They preach how they want you to be loyal to them but they will cut you in a heartbeat. Some say unless the replacement is X times better you are safe but I am just not sure how much truth there is to that. I think that is more true on the older teams than the younger ones. The younger ones the coaches sometimes think “they are raw, but have (speed, height, athleticism, strength… fill in the blank) and I can develop the technical or tactical” When they are older the coaches expect more and the differences between players in a certain level are minimal and it is sometimes down to whether they fit the system or the team or just what the team needs i.e.lost a player to injury or another team or just quit and need to fill that positional need. I am referring to the X times better. The loyalty stuff is true. |
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Post by Topline Soccer on Mar 22, 2024 15:26:56 GMT -5
Best way to be safe on any team your on is attend every practice and game throughout the season. Even if you were the worst player on the roster by the end of season you will have passed up most players on the team roster by getting all the reps (practice/games) in. It will be very hard for a coach to replace somebody who is dependable all year round and has improved so much as a player as they see the growth will continue.
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Post by maze on Mar 22, 2024 16:13:22 GMT -5
Best way to be safe on any team your on is attend every practice and game throughout the season. Even if you were the worst player on the roster by the end of season you will have passed up most players on the team roster by getting all the reps (practice/games) in. It will be very hard for a coach to replace somebody who is dependable all year round and has improved so much as a player as they see the growth will continue. Unfortunately, at the higher levels...this does not always hold to be true. We've seen a lot of kids get cut who were team players, etc. It's not good and a lot of times those kids/parents are very very surprised |
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Post by lajolla39 on Mar 23, 2024 11:50:57 GMT -5
Instead of giving clubs all the power by crossing your fingers and toes hopeing that they don't boot your kid make it a habit of trying out with all the big clubs in your area every year.
If you do this not only will you have options if anything negative happens you'll also find out of other clubs are a better fit.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Mar 23, 2024 15:23:05 GMT -5
Instead of giving clubs all the power by crossing your fingers and toes hopeing that they don't boot your kid make it a habit of trying out with all the big clubs in your area every year. If you do this not only will you have options if anything negative happens you'll also find out of other clubs are a better fit. [b Except, club tryout dates are on the same nights. The big clubs, at u13 and above, are going to have the best players on their top teams. Other than AU, ECNL is the tops. MLS Next was given to the second tier smaller clubs. |
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Post by lajolla39 on Mar 23, 2024 16:55:48 GMT -5
Instead of giving clubs all the power by crossing your fingers and toes hopeing that they don't boot your kid make it a habit of trying out with all the big clubs in your area every year. If you do this not only will you have options if anything negative happens you'll also find out of other clubs are a better fit. [b Except, club tryout dates are on the same nights. The big clubs, at u13 and above, are going to have the best players on their top teams. Other than AU, ECNL is the tops. MLS Next was given to the second tier smaller clubs. What if I told you that all you need to do is email different teams coaches and ask if your kid can jump in on some of their practice sessions? |
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Post by futbolhero on Mar 23, 2024 18:34:08 GMT -5
[b Except, club tryout dates are on the same nights. The big clubs, at u13 and above, are going to have the best players on their top teams. Other than AU, ECNL is the tops. MLS Next was given to the second tier smaller clubs. What if I told you that all you need to do is email different teams coaches and ask if your kid can jump in on some of their practice sessions? How does that work if you are in the same league? Supposed to be anti-recruiting rules in place that prevent that from happening especially before May 1. |
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Post by dabe on Mar 23, 2024 19:14:50 GMT -5
What if I told you that all you need to do is email different teams coaches and ask if your kid can jump in on some of their practice sessions? How does that work if you are in the same league? Supposed to be anti-recruiting rules in place that prevent that from happening especially before May 1. There's supposed to be, but they're largely ignored. |
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Post by gasoccernewb on Mar 24, 2024 9:18:04 GMT -5
What if I told you that all you need to do is email different teams coaches and ask if your kid can jump in on some of their practice sessions? How does that work if you are in the same league? Supposed to be anti-recruiting rules in place that prevent that from happening especially before May 1. This is very hit-or-miss in my experience. It's worth a try, but don't expect a response most of the time. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 24, 2024 22:13:06 GMT -5
How does that work if you are in the same league? Supposed to be anti-recruiting rules in place that prevent that from happening especially before May 1. There's supposed to be, but they're largely ignored. I would be careful doing this before May 1. If you are 💯 leaving your club then it is probably fine but otherwise wait until May 1. Definitely consider doing this if you want to check out other places. In addition there are the ECNL ID camps too. |
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