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Post by NotherSoccerParent on Mar 29, 2024 12:18:50 GMT -5
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Post by datrain on Mar 29, 2024 13:19:16 GMT -5
You have to think UFA and NASA will push for 2nd teams like Concorde
Also have to think Inter is going to push to be admitted too
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Post by randomparent on Mar 29, 2024 14:18:01 GMT -5
You have to think UFA and NASA will push for 2nd teams like Concorde Also have to think Inter is going to push to be admitted too Take a look at the map and spread out where the teams are located. Inter sounds good for ATL, then give one to Santos on the northside. T
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Post by soccernoleuk on Mar 29, 2024 14:56:39 GMT -5
Take a look on the girls side, each team in the southeast plays 15 league games a year. The older age groups play all those games in the fall and the younger age groups play the games split between the fall & spring. I have a feeling ECNL is moving towards 14-18 games being a standard year with showcases added on top of that.
For girls ECNL-R the southeast plays 14 league games a year. Again, they seem to be moving away from the 20+ league games a year and having clubs supplement with showcases.
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Post by datrain on Mar 29, 2024 15:00:36 GMT -5
Both UFA and NASA have larger infrastructure and multiple locations
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Post by Keeper on Mar 29, 2024 16:24:26 GMT -5
Inter with ECNL? Not a chance and not even in their radar with them sticking with NL, DPL, NAL and hopes of MLSNext again. Atlanta can’t support anymore competitive ECNL teams.
Boys ECNL will probably move to the 8 home, 8 away for Fall and with spring doing half that. Expect another showcase requirement to be added though.
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Post by futbolhero on Mar 29, 2024 17:30:46 GMT -5
All a money grab by the king of pay for play. Let’s say it’s to relieve travel on teams while charging the same to play 25% less games.
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Post by newguy on Mar 29, 2024 17:34:46 GMT -5
Both UFA and NASA have larger infrastructure and multiple locations And generally better second teams than those others first team
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Post by futbolhero on Mar 29, 2024 17:37:17 GMT -5
supposedly looking to add 1 more team to have a 10 team conf. 4 of the teams that usually make up the bottom 1/3 by age group are gone. Now SE will most likely lose 2-3 postseason slots. This will make it nearly impossible for some teams to ever qualify.
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Post by newguy on Mar 29, 2024 17:42:47 GMT -5
supposedly looking to add 1 more team to have a 10 team conf. 4 of the teams that usually make up the bottom 1/3 by age group are gone. Now SE will most likely lose 2-3 postseason slots. This will make it nearly impossible for some teams to ever qualify. Probably worth it to not have to waste time and money on cupcake road-trips that do nothing but build up goal differential.
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 29, 2024 20:12:15 GMT -5
Looking at RL results, NASA is the only club with any argument to have 2nd team added.
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Post by randomparent on Mar 29, 2024 21:15:37 GMT -5
Stop thinking of clubs as special entities that develop talent. The big clubs are sponges of talent, but they do not create it in many cases. By the time we recognize them in older age groups they have already replaced 70% of their original academy kids. Clubs (e.g., ECNL Clubs) are just points on the map. In a city Atlanta's size you need to find gaps in the map to give geographic access to top players. Here is one example, look at top ten GHSA www.scorbord.com/polls/2023-2024-ga-ghsa-class-aaaaaa-boys-soccer/rankings/week-7Open up Google Maps and find Sprayberry, BT, RiverRidge, Lassiter - four teams that consistently compete at state and are filled with great players. Now ask yourself, where do those boys play club soccer at? Is there an ECNL club close to them? If your going to add an ECNL club, that is one possible area. InterAtlanta was second place in the top U12 SCCL group this past season - system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/25321/schedules?group=208611Before some of you get triggered, I don't care about 11 year old's playing soccer. I just call it out because the way some of you talk though, you would think that is impossible that a lowly club like InterAtlanta can compete against the big old clubs. The year before that I think Santos finished 6th place out of 12 teams. To Mightydawg's point, NASA RL team are typically ballers. They can and do make ECNL/MLSNext if they are willing to drive. In many cases NASA SCCL teams would surprise a lot of teams in Atlanta. But it has less to do with it being NASA in my opinion, as more there are limited options for players in that area.
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Post by futbolhero on Mar 29, 2024 22:20:16 GMT -5
Stop thinking of clubs as special entities that develop talent. The big clubs are sponges of talent, but they do not create it in many cases. By the time we recognize them in older age groups they have already replaced 70% of their original academy kids. Clubs (e.g., ECNL Clubs) are just points on the map. In a city Atlanta's size you need to find gaps in the map to give geographic access to top players. Here is one example, look at top ten GHSA www.scorbord.com/polls/2023-2024-ga-ghsa-class-aaaaaa-boys-soccer/rankings/week-7Open up Google Maps and find Sprayberry, BT, RiverRidge, Lassiter - four teams that consistently compete at state and are filled with great players. Now ask yourself, where do those boys play club soccer at? Is there an ECNL club close to them? If your going to add an ECNL club, that is one possible area. InterAtlanta was second place in the top U12 SCCL group this past season - system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/25321/schedules?group=208611Before some of you get triggered, I don't care about 11 year old's playing soccer. I just call it out because the way some of you talk though, you would think that is impossible that a lowly club like InterAtlanta can compete against the big old clubs. The year before that I think Santos finished 6th place out of 12 teams. To Mightydawg's point, NASA RL team are typically ballers. They can and do make ECNL/MLSNext if they are willing to drive. In many cases NASA SCCL teams would surprise a lot of teams in Atlanta. But it has less to do with it being NASA in my opinion, as more there are limited options for players in that area. Same could be said for Platinum(multiple locations and big club ITP) and SSA as they only compete with NASA in that NW area. Go the other direction and you have UFA and GSA cannibalizing the area pulling taken on both side of AFU. Placement helps which is probably why AFU opened up that AFU west location in Milton to try and attract players.
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 30, 2024 8:52:21 GMT -5
ECNL’s model of late has been to add high performing RL teams to NL. Since that is what ECNL uses, if we are being realistic, that is what we should look at. Using this criteria, nasa is only club with chance. Realistically, don’t think anyone is being promoted. If they were, would have been announced with formation of new conference
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