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Post by offsidz on May 6, 2024 18:46:44 GMT -5
My kiddo wants to move to NASA next year to play with his friends. The problem is, they're on the SCCL Champions team, and I'm not sure he would make it to that team. I've been to two NASA tryouts in the past few years, and they both ended in disappointment (and tears!). My impression is: unless you're a standout star player, they aren't interested in adding you from the outside. Instead, they seem to favor current NASA players. I don't disagree with that, but we haven't been able to find an "in." Am I wrong? To further complicate matters, his current team is an SCCL P1 and his club only plans to have a Champions level, a P2 team, and something lower for his age group next year. Coach, who won't be with the team next year, says my kiddo is on the bubble, which to me means he's destined for the P2 team. What do we do?
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Post by newguy on May 6, 2024 19:39:07 GMT -5
My kiddo wants to move to NASA next year to play with his friends. The problem is, they're on the SCCL Champions team, and I'm not sure he would make it to that team. I've been to two NASA tryouts in the past few years, and they both ended in disappointment (and tears!). My impression is: unless you're a standout star player, they aren't interested in adding you from the outside. Instead, they seem to favor current NASA players. I don't disagree with that, but we haven't been able to find an "in." Am I wrong? To further complicate matters, his current team is an SCCL P1 and his club only plans to have a Champions level, a P2 team, and something lower for his age group next year. Coach, who won't be with the team next year, says my kiddo is on the bubble, which to me means he's destined for the P2 team. What do we do? Which age? ECNL ID clinics going on so internal movement and new players coming in can change teams a lot potentially. |
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Post by offsidz on May 6, 2024 19:50:16 GMT -5
He’s currently U13.
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Post by Brinker on May 6, 2024 19:59:51 GMT -5
My kiddo wants to move to NASA next year to play with his friends. The problem is, they're on the SCCL Champions team, and I'm not sure he would make it to that team. I've been to two NASA tryouts in the past few years, and they both ended in disappointment (and tears!). My impression is: unless you're a standout star player, they aren't interested in adding you from the outside. Instead, they seem to favor current NASA players. I don't disagree with that, but we haven't been able to find an "in." Am I wrong? To further complicate matters, his current team is an SCCL P1 and his club only plans to have a Champions level, a P2 team, and something lower for his age group next year. Coach, who won't be with the team next year, says my kiddo is on the bubble, which to me means he's destined for the P2 team. What do we do? Which age? ECNL ID clinics going on so internal movement and new players coming in can change teams a lot potentially. NASA ECNL ID clinic was last weekend and heavily attended, so I agree that NASA appears to be in high demand. Good luck to your son, we have had a very good experience with NASA. |
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Post by natlfutbol on May 6, 2024 20:10:53 GMT -5
We just got back from nasa id camp. My son will be u13. It was somewhat disorganized. No numbers were given out. Majority of players were nasa players and wore their jersey. Here is what the schedule for id camp was listed as.
2012 (U13) 5/6 6:00 PM Metro North Field 1
2011 (U14) 5/6 6:00 PM Franklin Gateway Field 3
2010 (U15) 5/6 7:30 PM Franklin Gateway Field 3
2009 (U16) 5/5 12:00 PM Metro North Field 3
2008 (U17) 5/5 3:30 PM Metro North Field 3
2006/2007 (U19) 5/5 2:00 PM Metro North Field 3
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Post by newguy on May 6, 2024 20:27:05 GMT -5
We just got back from nasa id camp. My son will be u13. It was somewhat disorganized. No numbers were given out. Majority of players were nasa players and wore their jersey. Here is what the schedule for id camp was listed as. 2012 (U13) 5/6 6:00 PM Metro North Field 1 2011 (U14) 5/6 6:00 PM Franklin Gateway Field 3 2010 (U15) 5/6 7:30 PM Franklin Gateway Field 3 2009 (U16) 5/5 12:00 PM Metro North Field 3 2008 (U17) 5/5 3:30 PM Metro North Field 3 2006/2007 (U19) 5/5 2:00 PM Metro North Field 3 Currently U13 or will be U13? So 2011 or 2012? |
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Post by offsidz on May 7, 2024 6:11:59 GMT -5
We just got back from nasa id camp. My son will be u13. It was somewhat disorganized. No numbers were given out. Majority of players were nasa players and wore their jersey. Here is what the schedule for id camp was listed as. 2012 (U13) 5/6 6:00 PM Metro North Field 1 2011 (U14) 5/6 6:00 PM Franklin Gateway Field 3 2010 (U15) 5/6 7:30 PM Franklin Gateway Field 3 2009 (U16) 5/5 12:00 PM Metro North Field 3 2008 (U17) 5/5 3:30 PM Metro North Field 3 2006/2007 (U19) 5/5 2:00 PM Metro North Field 3 After going to Concorde's ECNL ID camp last year with my 2011, I've kinda assumed that unless you're a superstar player, the ECNL rosters are pretty much set with current players. As for NASA, current players had to be invited to the ID camp, so it seemed like it would be tough to come in from the outside. |
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Post by atlnoleg on May 7, 2024 6:18:10 GMT -5
I don't know how it is at the SCCL levels, but at the ECNL/RL levels they will definitely replace internal players with new players. It is a popular club and they do well across most age groups so they draw interest from top players from other clubs. It was a good turnout. My kid is an RL player moving to U15 next year, and according to him ECNL coaches approached three outside players afterwards. So likely they told them they want to see them at tryouts and would have a good shot of replacing players on the current team. Similar to last year. NASA will move players down to RL and then RL will have to move kids down to SCCL. Some will accept the demotion, some will not.
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Post by soccercent on May 7, 2024 9:58:45 GMT -5
Do you know of any 2009s who have received emails from attending the ID camp?
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Post by natlfutbol on May 7, 2024 11:49:23 GMT -5
We just got back from nasa id camp. My son will be u13. It was somewhat disorganized. No numbers were given out. Majority of players were nasa players and wore their jersey. Here is what the schedule for id camp was listed as. 2012 (U13) 5/6 6:00 PM Metro North Field 1 2011 (U14) 5/6 6:00 PM Franklin Gateway Field 3 2010 (U15) 5/6 7:30 PM Franklin Gateway Field 3 2009 (U16) 5/5 12:00 PM Metro North Field 3 2008 (U17) 5/5 3:30 PM Metro North Field 3 2006/2007 (U19) 5/5 2:00 PM Metro North Field 3 Currently U13 or will be U13? So 2011 or 2012? Will be U13. 2012 birth year. |
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Post by socks on May 7, 2024 13:32:40 GMT -5
Currently U13 or will be U13? So 2011 or 2012? Will be U13. 2012 birth year. I've never had my child participate in an ID camp, so a few questions: I'm assuming your player is not a current NASA player. Did you receive any feedback at all on your player? Are you planning to have your player tryout with NASA now that ID has passed? Is your player currently on a "Pre-ECNL" team? (Playing top division U12 SCCL or equivalent) If you aren't going to try with NASA, are you returning to your club or moving regardless? Asking these questions because it seems difficult to change clubs unless you a) don't mind what level team you land on, b) are a "known" high level player, or c) have some sort of political "in" with the club you'd like to transfer to. |
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Post by natlfutbol on May 8, 2024 7:37:40 GMT -5
Will be U13. 2012 birth year. I've never had my child participate in an ID camp, so a few questions: I'm assuming your player is not a current NASA player. Correct. We are not a current NASA playerDid you receive any feedback at all on your player? NoAre you planning to have your player tryout with NASA now that ID has passed? NoIs your player currently on a "Pre-ECNL" team? (Playing top division U12 SCCL or equivalent) Yes.. We play NASA pre-ecnl 1, 2 and 3 teams and usually beat them.If you aren't going to try with NASA, are you returning to your club or moving regardless? Looking for best coach, level and location. Still considering all options.Asking these questions because it seems difficult to change clubs unless you a) don't mind what level team you land on, b) are a "known" high level player, or c) have some sort of political "in" with the club you'd like to transfer to. Please see answers above in green. |
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Post by atlnoleg on May 8, 2024 8:35:12 GMT -5
I've never had my child participate in an ID camp, so a few questions: I'm assuming your player is not a current NASA player. Correct. We are not a current NASA playerDid you receive any feedback at all on your player? NoAre you planning to have your player tryout with NASA now that ID has passed? NoIs your player currently on a "Pre-ECNL" team? (Playing top division U12 SCCL or equivalent) Yes.. We play NASA pre-ecnl 1, 2 and 3 teams and usually beat them.If you aren't going to try with NASA, are you returning to your club or moving regardless? Looking for best coach, level and location. Still considering all options.Asking these questions because it seems difficult to change clubs unless you a) don't mind what level team you land on, b) are a "known" high level player, or c) have some sort of political "in" with the club you'd like to transfer to. Please see answers above in green. I can give you the facts of our experience having been through this transition two years ago, and some opinion based on my observations. NASA took about half of their top u12 team (SCCL) and half from outside the club, mainly Roswell Santos to form their ECNL u13 team. The NASA SCCL players who didn't get picked for ECNL were placed on the ECNL-R team. RS had a strong team and they don't have ECNL, so it was a no-brainer that many of their players would be looking to move to ECNL clubs. So you definitely have a chance if you come from outside NASA. The coaches for ECNL/RL will be the same for u13 as we had, as they will be starting over after two years with my kid's age group. My opinion based on observation is they will place a high priority on size and speed, then look at skill. If your player has either or both of those first two he stands a much better chance than if he just has the last one. |
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Post by socks on May 8, 2024 8:58:15 GMT -5
I've never had my child participate in an ID camp, so a few questions: I'm assuming your player is not a current NASA player. Correct. We are not a current NASA playerDid you receive any feedback at all on your player? NoAre you planning to have your player tryout with NASA now that ID has passed? NoIs your player currently on a "Pre-ECNL" team? (Playing top division U12 SCCL or equivalent) Yes.. We play NASA pre-ecnl 1, 2 and 3 teams and usually beat them.If you aren't going to try with NASA, are you returning to your club or moving regardless? Looking for best coach, level and location. Still considering all options.Asking these questions because it seems difficult to change clubs unless you a) don't mind what level team you land on, b) are a "known" high level player, or c) have some sort of political "in" with the club you'd like to transfer to. Please see answers above in green. Ah, so your player already has the experience playing at the top level. I'd imagine your options are pretty open as to where you want to tryout. I'm a n00b when it comes to navigating the soccer scene, but it seems if you are looking for your player to land at the ECNL level, taking a look at Concorde (if you aren't already there) makes sense given they have two teams. But it sounds like you probably already know this  Good luck to you and your player! |
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Post by randomparent on May 10, 2024 3:59:46 GMT -5
Please see answers above in green. I can give you the facts of our experience having been through this transition two years ago, and some opinion based on my observations. NASA took about half of their top u12 team (SCCL) and half from outside the club, mainly Roswell Santos to form their ECNL u13 team. The NASA SCCL players who didn't get picked for ECNL were placed on the ECNL-R team. RS had a strong team and they don't have ECNL, so it was a no-brainer that many of their players would be looking to move to ECNL clubs. So you definitely have a chance if you come from outside NASA. The coaches for ECNL/RL will be the same for u13 as we had, as they will be starting over after two years with my kid's age group. My opinion based on observation is they will place a high priority on size and speed, then look at skill. If your player has either or both of those first two he stands a much better chance than if he just has the last one. Small correction. The players were dropped from the U11 Marietta team at u12 tryouts. No one was dropped to RL since it doesn't exist at that age group. |
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Post by atlnoleg on May 10, 2024 5:56:31 GMT -5
I can give you the facts of our experience having been through this transition two years ago, and some opinion based on my observations. NASA took about half of their top u12 team (SCCL) and half from outside the club, mainly Roswell Santos to form their ECNL u13 team. The NASA SCCL players who didn't get picked for ECNL were placed on the ECNL-R team. RS had a strong team and they don't have ECNL, so it was a no-brainer that many of their players would be looking to move to ECNL clubs. So you definitely have a chance if you come from outside NASA. The coaches for ECNL/RL will be the same for u13 as we had, as they will be starting over after two years with my kid's age group. My opinion based on observation is they will place a high priority on size and speed, then look at skill. If your player has either or both of those first two he stands a much better chance than if he just has the last one. Small correction. The players were dropped from the U11 Marietta team at u12 tryouts. No one was dropped to RL since it doesn't exist at that age group. I'm definitely talking about the transition from academy to select. They were u12 at SCCL, then tryouts were for u13. Just like the original poster's kid is going into. The u12 Marietta team was split approximately in half between the u13 ECNL and u13 ECNL-R teams. We just finished the second year at RL at the u14 age, now going into u15 tryouts. |
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Post by offsidz on May 10, 2024 13:33:47 GMT -5
Small correction. The players were dropped from the U11 Marietta team at u12 tryouts. No one was dropped to RL since it doesn't exist at that age group. I'm definitely talking about the transition from academy to select. They were u12 at SCCL, then tryouts were for u13. Just like the original poster's kid is going into. The u12 Marietta team was split approximately in half between the u13 ECNL and u13 ECNL-R teams. We just finished the second year at RL at the u14 age, now going into u15 tryouts. Original poster's kid is a 2011, currently U13, going into U14. Most of the comments in this string are not in response to my post but instead to natlfutbol's issue. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 10, 2024 15:03:15 GMT -5
I'm definitely talking about the transition from academy to select. They were u12 at SCCL, then tryouts were for u13. Just like the original poster's kid is going into. The u12 Marietta team was split approximately in half between the u13 ECNL and u13 ECNL-R teams. We just finished the second year at RL at the u14 age, now going into u15 tryouts. Original poster's kid is a 2011, currently U13, going into U14. Most of the comments in this string are not in response to my post but instead to natlfutbol's issue. Let me take a crack at it. The current NASA SCCL-C team is very competitive. Last I checked they may have won their conference by coming in first. That makes it very difficult to break into that team, unless as you stated, you're a standout star player. On the other hand, it makes sense that they want to promote or fill in holes from known club players from lower teams. Not saying your kid shouldn't be given a chance, but in the world of big club soccer, most coaches at a club go with the known proven player. They know the player, their siblings, their families, etc. Since it looks like your current team/club may be unable to field a team, my suggestion is to try and make a lateral move to NASA. It will get your kid "closer" to his friends and will give coaches a chance to see your kid play. Sometimes during the season injuries and schedule conflicts allow a player on a lower team to play up. Put it out there and who knows your kid might get lucky. Fast forward a year from now and we're hopefully having a different discussion about your kiddo being given a chance to make the SCCL-C team. Good luck... |
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Post by newguy on May 10, 2024 15:43:59 GMT -5
Original poster's kid is a 2011, currently U13, going into U14. Most of the comments in this string are not in response to my post but instead to natlfutbol's issue. Let me take a crack at it. The current NASA SCCL-C team is very competitive. Last I checked they may have won their conference by coming in first. That makes it very difficult to break into that team, unless as you stated, you're a standout star player. On the other hand, it makes sense that they want to promote or fill in holes from known club players from lower teams. Not saying your kid shouldn't be given a chance, but in the world of big club soccer, most coaches at a club go with the known proven player. They know the player, their siblings, their families, etc. Since it looks like your current team/club may be unable to field a team, my suggestion is to try and make a lateral move to NASA. It will get your kid "closer" to his friends and will give coaches a chance to see your kid play. Sometimes during the season injuries and schedule conflicts allow a player on a lower team to play up. Put it out there and who knows your kid might get lucky. Fast forward a year from now and we're hopefully having a different discussion about your kiddo being given a chance to make the SCCL-C team. Good luck... Asked my kid who knows one of the players and 2011 SCCL-C won both fall and spring with only loss for the season after they clinched in fall. They have a couple of kids that have been invited to try out for ECNL-R and some ECNL-R kids that will get a serious look at moving up too. The question may come down to how many ECNL-R kids get told they are moving down and look elsewhere to open some spots. Both ECNL-R and SCCL-C had relatively small rosters |
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Post by soccerfan2024 on May 13, 2024 14:38:50 GMT -5
My kiddo wants to move to NASA next year to play with his friends. The problem is, they're on the SCCL Champions team, and I'm not sure he would make it to that team. I've been to two NASA tryouts in the past few years, and they both ended in disappointment (and tears!). My impression is: unless you're a standout star player, they aren't interested in adding you from the outside. Instead, they seem to favor current NASA players. I don't disagree with that, but we haven't been able to find an "in." Am I wrong? To further complicate matters, his current team is an SCCL P1 and his club only plans to have a Champions level, a P2 team, and something lower for his age group next year. Coach, who won't be with the team next year, says my kiddo is on the bubble, which to me means he's destined for the P2 team. What do we do? |
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