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Post by rifle on May 17, 2024 20:38:10 GMT -5
There is zero chance that a whole team will move and replace another. Zero.
2011 birth year means girls turning thirteen this year, right? So they are twelve and the parents are getting stirred up like a tornado. This is club soccer.
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Post by bogan on May 17, 2024 20:58:16 GMT -5
There is zero chance that a whole team will move and replace another. Zero. 2011 birth year means girls turning thirteen this year, right? So they are twelve and the parents are getting stirred up like a tornado. This is club soccer. Yep. This IS club soccer… |
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Post by Oceanready on May 17, 2024 21:06:47 GMT -5
Isn’t the 2011 ECNL Premier team based in Columbus? So for those Platinum parents not willing to drive to another club to play ECNL, the next level at Central is RL. Those girls play hard, so very sorry to see their team split up like that. Most likely it will end up being a swap between spots not offered at Concorde and open at UFA. Tryouts will be interesting, but we know by then the teams will be pretty much set.
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Post by Keeper on May 17, 2024 22:44:40 GMT -5
How can an entire UFA team just switch to Concorde? It's not exactly down the road, Concorde fields are at least 30 mins from Fowler Park and a lot of the UFA players probably live further north or other directions. Unless they're going to practice somewhere else? Crazy. (This is nothing to do with me, I'm just fascinated) Because they’ll practice out of Concorde North’s fields and possibly Concordes new Roswell fields. |
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Post by herman on May 18, 2024 7:43:17 GMT -5
Attended Concorde Fire’s ECNL ID camp last Sunday. After the session, one of the coaches approached my daughter to confirm her registration number/name/state and said they liked how she was playing and that another coach would be reaching out. My daughter plays on an ECNL team, but we are not from GA, so we did not recognize anyone to know who it was. I’m assuming there is typically not any follow-up to an ID clinic(?), but since she was told we'd be getting a call and we haven’t been contacted, I’m not sure what to think. Her club’s tryouts are coming up, and we are trying to understand her options. My question is if anyone else has had a similar experience or advice. Thank you! |
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Post by herman on May 18, 2024 7:44:34 GMT -5
Bring your daughter to the UFA tryouts next week on Monday Tuesday and Wednesday at Fowler Park in Cumming. They have open tryouts and particularly in the G2011 group players are welcome. New female coach who played at UNC and in the NWSL, new atmosphere being created.
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 18, 2024 11:35:49 GMT -5
How can an entire UFA team just switch to Concorde? It's not exactly down the road, Concorde fields are at least 30 mins from Fowler Park and a lot of the UFA players probably live further north or other directions. Unless they're going to practice somewhere else? Crazy. (This is nothing to do with me, I'm just fascinated) Because they’ll practice out of Concorde North’s fields and possibly Concordes new Roswell fields. New Roswell fields?? Where are those? I didn't hear anything about CF getting new fields. |
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Post by trollfather on May 18, 2024 21:01:01 GMT -5
Because they’ll practice out of Concorde North’s fields and possibly Concordes new Roswell fields. New Roswell fields?? Where are those? I didn't hear anything about CF getting new fields. Roswell |
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Post by rifle on May 18, 2024 21:26:34 GMT -5
New Roswell fields?? Where are those? I didn't hear anything about CF getting new fields. legit question. |
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Post by ball2futbol on May 18, 2024 23:36:41 GMT -5
The tipping point in youth soccer is razor thin. This shakeup will likely have a direct affect on every local club and your kid if they are in the 2011 age group, in some form or fashion. Agreed it’s just history repeating itself. Add 2010’s to the list… CF is turning that over as well |
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Post by mamadona on May 19, 2024 9:02:42 GMT -5
The tipping point in youth soccer is razor thin. This shakeup will likely have a direct affect on every local club and your kid if they are in the 2011 age group, in some form or fashion. Agreed it’s just history repeating itself. Add 2010’s to the list… CF is turning that over as well What? Please explain. |
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 19, 2024 10:44:12 GMT -5
New Roswell fields?? Where are those? I didn't hear anything about CF getting new fields. Roswell Ha. I wouldn't expect a different response from someone named " trollfather". But as rifle stated, it was a legit question. |
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Post by Keeper on May 19, 2024 10:55:06 GMT -5
Because they’ll practice out of Concorde North’s fields and possibly Concordes new Roswell fields. New Roswell fields?? Where are those? I didn't hear anything about CF getting new fields. Sounded like one of the private schools like how NTH is at Kings Ridge. |
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Post by ball2futbol on May 19, 2024 11:16:28 GMT -5
Add 2010’s to the list… CF is turning that over as well What? Please explain. UFA > CF |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 21, 2024 6:33:32 GMT -5
Are you saying UFA 2010 are losing a lot or gaining or what? Not clear by your symbols. UFA has the same two coaches at the top for the third year in a row. Success has not been as good on the table as other age groups, but still sent a few players to YNT Talent ID center. I am aware of at least 2 ECRL that are looking at other options. |
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Post by Keeper on May 21, 2024 7:54:24 GMT -5
Are you saying UFA 2010 are losing a lot or gaining or what? Not clear by your symbols. UFA has the same two coaches at the top for the third year in a row. Success has not been as good on the table as other age groups, but still sent a few players to YNT Talent ID center. I am aware of at least 2 ECRL that are looking at other options. I’ve also heard Alan is bringing quite a few 10s to CF too. That CF Platinum has some bubble players who would start for the CF Premier team though. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 21, 2024 8:05:55 GMT -5
Are you saying UFA 2010 are losing a lot or gaining or what? Not clear by your symbols. UFA has the same two coaches at the top for the third year in a row. Success has not been as good on the table as other age groups, but still sent a few players to YNT Talent ID center. I am aware of at least 2 ECRL that are looking at other options. I’ve also heard Alan is bringing quite a few 10s to CF too. That CF Platinum has some bubble players who would start for the CF Premier team though. The 2010 talent pool isn’t very deep at CF, not like some of their other age groups. |
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Post by ball2futbol on May 21, 2024 9:23:53 GMT -5
Are you saying UFA 2010 are losing a lot or gaining or what? Not clear by your symbols. UFA has the same two coaches at the top for the third year in a row. Success has not been as good on the table as other age groups, but still sent a few players to YNT Talent ID center. I am aware of at least 2 ECRL that are looking at other options. I’ve also heard Alan is bringing quite a few 10s to CF too. That CF Platinum has some bubble players who would start for the CF Premier team though. What keeper said |
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Post by rifle on May 21, 2024 17:17:30 GMT -5
I’ve also heard Alan is bringing quite a few 10s to CF too. That CF Platinum has some bubble players who would start for the CF Premier team though. The 2010 talent pool isn’t very deep at CF, not like some of their other age groups. Give em two weeks. They’ll get better. Guaranteed. |
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Post by futboldad1 on May 22, 2024 5:01:20 GMT -5
Me too. Can a whole team leave? I thought there was a rule in place and only so many players can be taken? Maybe that was an old Ga. Soccer rule? For some reason I hear spaghetti western music playing (because this all seems like the Wild West). Parents have told me that Gil is taking top 5 2009 players, I've heard from some players that all 11 are going to CF. I find it hard to believe that ALL UFA parents want to get onto the CF carnival ride . . . but I'm sure some are pretty die-hard to live life vicariously. One 2011 parent told me that Alan is taking his whole team also . . . again seems unlikely that ALL parents want to make that commitment to CF. The UFA ECNL clinic was disrupted by lightning, rain, and was kind of a mess organizationally and actuality (grass fields). But I understand there were not many different (from other clubs) 2009 girls. We'll find out next Tuesday and Wednesday. |
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Post by proudplayer on May 22, 2024 12:52:09 GMT -5
Heard Gil already gave offers to 2009 team
8 from UFA 9 from CF
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 22, 2024 13:02:06 GMT -5
Heard Gil already gave offers to 2009 team 8 from UFA 9 from CF I have heard this too. My question is this, if that many leave UFA for CF, what becomes of nationals? How many new players can play on the team going to nationals? I had always heard 3 but not sure how true that is... |
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Post by Oceanready on May 22, 2024 13:28:03 GMT -5
Heard Gil already gave offers to 2009 team 8 from UFA 9 from CF I have heard this too. My question is this, if that many leave UFA for CF, what becomes of nationals? How many new players can play on the team going to nationals? I had always heard 3 but not sure how true that is... I always thought it was 2, but I could be wrong. In addition, what about parents who have already invested money on air travel and are switching clubs or whose kids are no longer on the team? In my personal opinion, all players should have the opportunity to go to Nationals with the team they played on that qualified. However, the concern then is how much playing time is your child going to get, and that becomes the deciding factor. On the other hand, parents may not want to travel with a team that their child will no longer be a part of next season especially if it was not a good situation. |
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Post by soccer1320 on May 22, 2024 13:30:23 GMT -5
Heard Gil already gave offers to 2009 team 8 from UFA 9 from CF I have heard this too. My question is this, if that many leave UFA for CF, what becomes of nationals? How many new players can play on the team going to nationals? I had always heard 3 but not sure how true that is... I believe before May 1st, it is 2-3 from the same age group can be brought up OR added if the player is playing at the club next year. BUT, according to the rules, if 9 players (majority of a team) were to go to Concorde and decline nationals for ECNL at UFA, they would be violating an ECNL rule and Concorde would be penalized next year (games taken away, etc). Essentially, if you are committed to an ECNL club, you are committed for the "ECNL season" to the club, not the coach, and the "ECNL season" includes post season. I am sure this rule is in place to protect players (like the current CF players that will be dropped after nationals, and the current UFA players that were not offered a spot). For their sake, ECNL requires teams to stay intact until the full season is over. There is no written requirement for who coaches the team taking them to nationals (that I know of). And remember, outside of all the political BS that goes on, there are a group of girls at each club that want to go to nationals to be seen by colleges. We cannot forget that the kids have worked hard for this and deserve to finish their season with their current teammates without parent/coach/club drama. It should be noted that my kiddo is not on either team:) I just happen to have read the rules when someone was asking about it-and I have seen this question on more than one thread. |
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Post by soccer1320 on May 22, 2024 13:31:41 GMT -5
I have heard this too. My question is this, if that many leave UFA for CF, what becomes of nationals? How many new players can play on the team going to nationals? I had always heard 3 but not sure how true that is... I always thought it was 2, but I could be wrong. In addition, what about parents who have already invested money on air travel and are switching clubs or whose kids are no longer on the team? In my personal opinion, all players should have the opportunity to go to Nationals with the team they played on that qualified. However, the concern then is how much playing time is your child going to get, and that becomes the deciding factor. On the other hand, parents may not want to travel with a team that their child will no longer be a part of next season especially if it was not a good situation. |
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Post by soccer1320 on May 22, 2024 13:37:23 GMT -5
I have heard this too. My question is this, if that many leave UFA for CF, what becomes of nationals? How many new players can play on the team going to nationals? I had always heard 3 but not sure how true that is... I always thought it was 2, but I could be wrong. In addition, what about parents who have already invested money on air travel and are switching clubs or whose kids are no longer on the team? In my personal opinion, all players should have the opportunity to go to Nationals with the team they played on that qualified. However, the concern then is how much playing time is your child going to get, and that becomes the deciding factor. On the other hand, parents may not want to travel with a team that their child will no longer be a part of next season especially if it was not a good situation. When you sign up for ECNL, you are signing up for a season- via contract. You cannot just decide that you do not want to go with your team and then hop onto another team and go with them. ECNL has consequences for players and clubs that try to violate their contracts. Every once in a while a club will release someone from going to nationals- but generally that is rare. I have been there over and over heading to playoffs with players leaving our team. It is awkward for the parents- rarely for the kids. Kids give each other much more grace than parents do. I have even travelled with kids who were dropped from our team and still the kids all embraced the ones dropped and made the playoff experience a good one. |
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Post by atlantagray on May 22, 2024 14:44:54 GMT -5
I always thought it was 2, but I could be wrong. In addition, what about parents who have already invested money on air travel and are switching clubs or whose kids are no longer on the team? In my personal opinion, all players should have the opportunity to go to Nationals with the team they played on that qualified. However, the concern then is how much playing time is your child going to get, and that becomes the deciding factor. On the other hand, parents may not want to travel with a team that their child will no longer be a part of next season especially if it was not a good situation. When you sign up for ECNL, you are signing up for a season- via contract. You cannot just decide that you do not want to go with your team and then hop onto another team and go with them. ECNL has consequences for players and clubs that try to violate their contracts. Every once in a while a club will release someone from going to nationals- but generally that is rare. I have been there over and over heading to playoffs with players leaving our team. It is awkward for the parents- rarely for the kids. Kids give each other much more grace than parents do. I have even travelled with kids who were dropped from our team and still the kids all embraced the ones dropped and made the playoff experience a good one. sounds about as corrupt and inflexible towards the kids as the NCAA before NIL. |
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Post by Keeper on May 22, 2024 14:46:48 GMT -5
Bring your daughter to the UFA tryouts next week on Monday Tuesday and Wednesday at Fowler Park in Cumming. They have open tryouts and particularly in the G2011 group players are welcome. New female coach who played at UNC and in the NWSL, new atmosphere being created. Considering nearly the entire team followed Alan to Concorde, UFA has a lot of spots open on that ECNL team! Not sure if any of the current 2011 Platinum players even stayed because Alan had so many come in. |
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Post by trollfather on May 22, 2024 14:50:11 GMT -5
When you sign up for ECNL, you are signing up for a season- via contract. You cannot just decide that you do not want to go with your team and then hop onto another team and go with them. ECNL has consequences for players and clubs that try to violate their contracts. Every once in a while a club will release someone from going to nationals- but generally that is rare. I have been there over and over heading to playoffs with players leaving our team. It is awkward for the parents- rarely for the kids. Kids give each other much more grace than parents do. I have even travelled with kids who were dropped from our team and still the kids all embraced the ones dropped and made the playoff experience a good one. sounds about as corrupt and inflexible towards the kids as the NCAA before NIL. Who's signing the contract? I can't imagine those things are enforceable against minors. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 22, 2024 22:11:37 GMT -5
I always thought it was 2, but I could be wrong. In addition, what about parents who have already invested money on air travel and are switching clubs or whose kids are no longer on the team? In my personal opinion, all players should have the opportunity to go to Nationals with the team they played on that qualified. However, the concern then is how much playing time is your child going to get, and that becomes the deciding factor. On the other hand, parents may not want to travel with a team that their child will no longer be a part of next season especially if it was not a good situation. When you sign up for ECNL, you are signing up for a season- via contract. You cannot just decide that you do not want to go with your team and then hop onto another team and go with them. ECNL has consequences for players and clubs that try to violate their contracts. Every once in a while a club will release someone from going to nationals- but generally that is rare. I have been there over and over heading to playoffs with players leaving our team. It is awkward for the parents- rarely for the kids. Kids give each other much more grace than parents do. I have even travelled with kids who were dropped from our team and still the kids all embraced the ones dropped and made the playoff experience a good one. I am surprised to hear you say the kids don’t find it awkward. I would say that is HIGHLY dependent on their relationship beforehand and why they are leaving as well as their role on the team. In this case, leaving the team due to a coaching change I would say plenty of grace given on both sides. But for many other reasons nope and in older age groups many kids leave their playoff teams. Also I don’t think this is an issue for teams in the showcase levels only, just the playoffs. Correct me if I am wrong. We were GA people. |
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