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Post by tiredmom on May 7, 2024 17:08:25 GMT -5
Attended Concorde Fire’s ECNL ID camp last Sunday. After the session, one of the coaches approached my daughter to confirm her registration number/name/state and said they liked how she was playing and that another coach would be reaching out. My daughter plays on an ECNL team, but we are not from GA, so we did not recognize anyone to know who it was. I’m assuming there is typically not any follow-up to an ID clinic(?), but since she was told we'd be getting a call and we haven’t been contacted, I’m not sure what to think. Her club’s tryouts are coming up, and we are trying to understand her options. My question is if anyone else has had a similar experience or advice. Thank you!
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Post by maze on May 7, 2024 20:58:48 GMT -5
What age group? And we can tell you which coaches were represented there
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Post by gasoccernewb on May 7, 2024 21:21:02 GMT -5
I was told they will be contacting the players they want to get another look at soon (possibly this weekend). They are working on putting together the lists and location(s).
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Post by soccercent on May 8, 2024 10:25:20 GMT -5
I was told they will be contacting the players they want to get another look at soon (possibly this weekend). They are working on putting together the lists and location(s). What about Nasa boys? |
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Post by blu on May 8, 2024 11:01:06 GMT -5
Email their ECNL Director which is likely on the website. Older boys were told of additional open training sessions at the end of the ID clinic.
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Post by soccercent on May 8, 2024 13:27:14 GMT -5
Email their ECNL Director which is likely on the website. Older boys were told of additional open training sessions at the end of the ID clinic. Thank you! Which age groups were told? |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 9, 2024 7:20:33 GMT -5
Attended Concorde Fire’s ECNL ID camp last Sunday. After the session, one of the coaches approached my daughter to confirm her registration number/name/state and said they liked how she was playing and that another coach would be reaching out. My daughter plays on an ECNL team, but we are not from GA, so we did not recognize anyone to know who it was. I’m assuming there is typically not any follow-up to an ID clinic(?), but since she was told we'd be getting a call and we haven’t been contacted, I’m not sure what to think. Her club’s tryouts are coming up, and we are trying to understand her options. My question is if anyone else has had a similar experience or advice. Thank you! Unusual to approach you and get your info and then not call. Have they still not called? |
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Post by blu on May 9, 2024 8:35:40 GMT -5
Email their ECNL Director which is likely on the website. Older boys were told of additional open training sessions at the end of the ID clinic. Thank you! Which age groups were told? U19 Boys All clubs are holding open sessions of some kind right now. Some are very open and others are invite only.
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Post by soccercent on May 9, 2024 8:40:59 GMT -5
Thank you! Which age groups were told? U19 Boys All clubs are holding open sessions of some kind right now. Some are very open and others are invite only.
Thanks! This was in reference to Nasa. |
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Post by maze on May 9, 2024 8:43:38 GMT -5
Thank you! Which age groups were told? U19 Boys All clubs are holding open sessions of some kind right now. Some are very open and others are invite only.
but be careful...that list hasn't been updated and at least 2 of those on the page aren't going to be with the club anymore |
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Post by tiredmom on May 13, 2024 11:16:50 GMT -5
Attended Concorde Fire’s ECNL ID camp last Sunday. After the session, one of the coaches approached my daughter to confirm her registration number/name/state and said they liked how she was playing and that another coach would be reaching out. My daughter plays on an ECNL team, but we are not from GA, so we did not recognize anyone to know who it was. I’m assuming there is typically not any follow-up to an ID clinic(?), but since she was told we'd be getting a call and we haven’t been contacted, I’m not sure what to think. Her club’s tryouts are coming up, and we are trying to understand her options. My question is if anyone else has had a similar experience or advice. Thank you! Unusual to approach you and get your info and then not call. Have they still not called? Hi Oraclesfriend: Never received a call and figured it was not meant to be. I imagine they had their reasons, so I decided not to follow up with them. |
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 13, 2024 11:27:17 GMT -5
Unusual to approach you and get your info and then not call. Have they still not called? Hi Oraclesfriend: Never received a call and figured it was not meant to be. I imagine they had their reasons, so I decided not to follow up with them. I'm not sure this is the protocol in this situation, but depending on who the coach is and what level they coach at, there is a hierarchy of selection at tryouts. A lower level coach sometimes won't talk to you because the higher level coaches get first dibs. They may be interested in your kid, but have to wait until it's their turn to choose the remaining players that didn't land on the teams above them. Anyway, just a thought. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 14, 2024 15:32:09 GMT -5
Unusual to approach you and get your info and then not call. Have they still not called? Hi Oraclesfriend: Never received a call and figured it was not meant to be. I imagine they had their reasons, so I decided not to follow up with them. Sorry to hear that. It is a tough road sometimes and often confusing. |
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Post by herman on May 17, 2024 10:46:09 GMT -5
I understand the Concorde Fire 2011G is already set for players with new coach bringing over all of his team from UFA. Does not seem fair that ECNL players from past years will be left off the team because a new coach has come in. All this before tryouts begin on Monday too!
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Post by atlantagray on May 17, 2024 10:57:51 GMT -5
I understand the Concorde Fire 2011G is already set for players with new coach bringing over all of his team from UFA. Does not seem fair that ECNL players from past years will be left off the team because a new coach has come in. All this before tryouts begin on Monday too! That doesn't sound like an ideal situation for anyone. But, better they found out before tryouts so that they could find another club for the upcoming season. |
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Post by herman on May 17, 2024 11:08:28 GMT -5
I agree but do all the parents recognize what is going on and can make other plans. Club has not really been forthcoming about this
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Post by blu on May 17, 2024 11:09:31 GMT -5
I understand the Concorde Fire 2011G is already set for players with new coach bringing over all of his team from UFA. Does not seem fair that ECNL players from past years will be left off the team because a new coach has come in. All this before tryouts begin on Monday too! That doesn't sound like an ideal situation for anyone. But, better they found out before tryouts so that they could find another club for the upcoming season. Yes, good you found out early.
I remember a Concorde coach brought his whole RL team to GSA a couple years ago forcing the GSA players to scatter to other teams. Most didn't find out until tryouts this was happening. That was a 2nd place GSA team too...
Commenting on the original post, you should always follow up. Some of these coaches are not good at follow up, emails, etc. You may be missing an opportunity.
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Post by herman on May 17, 2024 11:10:16 GMT -5
Attended Concorde Fire’s ECNL ID camp last Sunday. After the session, one of the coaches approached my daughter to confirm her registration number/name/state and said they liked how she was playing and that another coach would be reaching out. My daughter plays on an ECNL team, but we are not from GA, so we did not recognize anyone to know who it was. I’m assuming there is typically not any follow-up to an ID clinic(?), but since she was told we'd be getting a call and we haven’t been contacted, I’m not sure what to think. Her club’s tryouts are coming up, and we are trying to understand her options. My question is if anyone else has had a similar experience or advice. Thank you! |
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Post by carlespuyol on May 17, 2024 11:12:15 GMT -5
I agree but do all the parents recognize what is going on and can make other plans. Club has not really been forthcoming about this Some have been told they have a spot. No one has been told they *don't* have a spot, so the carrot continues to be dangled in front of some and they keep showing up. |
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Post by atlnoleg on May 17, 2024 11:32:17 GMT -5
I have no information or ties to this situation discussed above, but it feels like a case of rumors among parents getting spread without factual evidence. I am sure a coach coming from a successful club will be happy to take along as many good players who are willing (parents especially) to switch clubs to follow him/her. But I have a hard time believing any coach will blindly take their entire team, even if all are willing to go en mass. Coaches want to win and are always looking to add talent. But hey, just because I've never seen it doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I just tend to think it may be overblown and there will be a lot of movement, but probably some new and old players and maybe even other outside players not from his former club--like pretty much all tryouts.
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Post by herman on May 17, 2024 12:06:09 GMT -5
Not rumors, it is happening and offers are being made before tryouts next week and all former ECNL players from Fire will not have a same opportunity they had in the past. Parents need to know this so they can be sure their girls that played ECNL last year have the opportunity to play somewhere at the same level this year.
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Post by mamadona on May 17, 2024 13:44:48 GMT -5
How can an entire UFA team just switch to Concorde? It's not exactly down the road, Concorde fields are at least 30 mins from Fowler Park and a lot of the UFA players probably live further north or other directions. Unless they're going to practice somewhere else? Crazy.
(This is nothing to do with me, I'm just fascinated)
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 17, 2024 13:49:12 GMT -5
How can an entire UFA team just switch to Concorde? It's not exactly down the road, Concorde fields are at least 30 mins from Fowler Park and a lot of the UFA players probably live further north or other directions. Unless they're going to practice somewhere else? Crazy. (This is nothing to do with me, I'm just fascinated) Me too. Can a whole team leave? I thought there was a rule in place and only so many players can be taken? Maybe that was an old Ga. Soccer rule? |
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Post by bogan on May 17, 2024 14:03:06 GMT -5
How can an entire UFA team just switch to Concorde? It's not exactly down the road, Concorde fields are at least 30 mins from Fowler Park and a lot of the UFA players probably live further north or other directions. Unless they're going to practice somewhere else? Crazy. (This is nothing to do with me, I'm just fascinated) Me too. Can a whole team leave? I thought there was a rule in place and only so many players can be taken? Maybe that was an old Ga. Soccer rule? For some reason I hear spaghetti western music playing (because this all seems like the Wild West). |
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Post by hometeamsoccer on May 17, 2024 14:10:16 GMT -5
This seems to be the only ECNL rule that might apply: so if the team still attends post-season I am not sure what rule might have been broken.
2.13.5 Recruiting and Competition Integrity. If in the recruiting process, (i) an
ECNL Club (the “Recruiting Club”) recruits or signs significant numbers of players
from another ECNL Club (the “Prior Club”) for the next ECNL Season, and (ii) the
Prior Club is unable to fulfill ECNL Post-Season obligations for the current ECNL
Season, the ECNL will review to determine how the Recruiting Club’s actions
influenced this failure. If the ECNL, in its sole discretion, determines that the
Recruiting Club played a significant role in the Prior Club’s inability to attend the
ECNL Post-Season or finish games in the current ECNL Regular Season, the ECNL
may sanction the Recruiting Club, including without limitation by removing events
from the Recruiting Club in the subsequent season
But if you know much about the UFA 2011 team I wouldn't be surprised if most or all of them go. They are really talented, but it's not a group that has always been with UFA or has a specific loyalty to the club. This team was created by their coach by recruitment from many other clubs as a "super team". Several years ago the ODP contact list for that age group was used to recruit players for that team from multiple clubs. They are a very talented bunch and many of the girls who come off the bench for that team would be a starter on another team who would rarely go out.
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Post by blu on May 17, 2024 14:20:40 GMT -5
When they say "whole team" they really mean 9-12 core players. Others will think they are going too only to get cut at tryouts. Coach will take best of the Concorde team and mix them in, pushing everyone else down to RL.
Welcome to tryouts!
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Post by 04gparent on May 17, 2024 15:36:13 GMT -5
This is par for the course for CF. No the entire team will not go. But probably the best 8 to 10 will (best is based on perspective of the coach). The original 2007 girls team from TH went to CF maybe 6 years ago. Most the CF 04 Platinum team was from TH with Garvin making personal calls to most of the team. So this is just what CF does...
How? Parents are willing to drive to stay with their favorite coach. I completely understand why... I am not passing judgement... It is what it is.
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Post by ball2futbol on May 17, 2024 15:46:17 GMT -5
The tipping point in youth soccer is razor thin. This shakeup will likely have a direct affect on every local club and your kid if they are in the 2011 age group, in some form or fashion. Agreed it’s just history repeating itself.
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Post by herman on May 17, 2024 19:20:46 GMT -5
Attended Concorde Fire’s ECNL ID camp last Sunday. After the session, one of the coaches approached my daughter to confirm her registration number/name/state and said they liked how she was playing and that another coach would be reaching out. My daughter plays on an ECNL team, but we are not from GA, so we did not recognize anyone to know who it was. I’m assuming there is typically not any follow-up to an ID clinic(?), but since she was told we'd be getting a call and we haven’t been contacted, I’m not sure what to think. Her club’s tryouts are coming up, and we are trying to understand her options. My question is if anyone else has had a similar experience or advice. Thank you! |
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Post by herman on May 17, 2024 19:23:33 GMT -5
Bring your daughter to the UFA tryouts next week on Monday Tuesday and Wednesday at Fowler Park in Cumming. They have open tryouts and particularly in the G2011 group players are welcome. New female coach who played at UNC and in the NWSL, new atmosphere being created.
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