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Post by mamasoccer on May 15, 2024 21:09:16 GMT -5
0-8 ouch, seems like they don't have anyone that can score, swiss cheese as a backline, and no keeper, lol. I guess if 2012s are looking to play ECNL/ECNL-R there will be spots at AFU. Are the players/parents jumping ship? Is there player movement/promotion from 2nd to 1st? That was my first thought- this sounds more like a talent problem than a coaching problem. It’s a AFU problem where it’s not who you are but who you know! |
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Post by anonymous123 on May 15, 2024 21:40:35 GMT -5
That was my first thought- this sounds more like a talent problem than a coaching problem. It’s a AFU problem where it’s not who you are but who you know! Wrong players selected or players from outside clubs turned away? |
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Post by ball2futbol on May 15, 2024 22:13:18 GMT -5
Based on the team description it’s a secondary team and probably shouldn’t have been at the ECNL showcase in the first place, especially if you’re concerned about wins and losses at U12. Atleast they got the experience it’ll serve them well in the future. ECNL showcases at that age are a money grab anyway, enjoy Greenville and the short ride back home. Those results are no different than most pooled team 2’s at that age.
Matchups against top AFU teams over the years, talent didn’t appear to be an issue. The rub I hear from parents, is they love the club, but development or style varied by age group. Good example, someone mentioned their ECNL 09’s, same kids but vastly different win/loss results this season. That doesn’t sound like a talent issue to me.
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Post by mamasoccer on May 15, 2024 22:15:50 GMT -5
Based on the team description it’s a secondary team and probably shouldn’t have been at the ECNL showcase in the first place, especially if you’re concerned about wins and losses at U12. Atleast they got the experience it’ll serve them well in the future. ECNL showcases at that age are a money grab anyway, enjoy Greenville and the short ride back home. Those results are no different than most pooled team 2’s at that age. Matchups against top AFU teams over the years, talent didn’t appear to be an issue. The rub I hear from parents, is they love the club, but development or style varied by age group. Good example, someone mentioned their ECNL 09’s, same kids but different win/loss results this season. That doesn’t sound like a talent issue to me. For sure you are 100% correct but by the same token these girls have been together for multiple seasons and with so many coaching changes it’s going to be interesting to say the least! |
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Post by GeorgiaSoccerMom on May 20, 2024 18:24:34 GMT -5
It’s a AFU problem where it’s not who you are but who you know! Wrong players selected or players from outside clubs turned away? |
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Post by GeorgiaSoccerMom on May 20, 2024 18:33:17 GMT -5
All I can say is there are coaches on the girls side at the higher levels at AFU GIRLS that are forced to take girls because of their relationship with the director. They tend to be trapped in the RL level. Also AFU has a policy you can only drop one level each year. So if you were a bubble or sucked at ECNL (stopped practicing) it will take you a few seasons to get to the level where other girls only practice with their team. ECNL or RL is for girls who hunger for soccer… think … watch… soccer all the time. Imagine… Ball at foot all the time or running without parents telling them too. The AFU director will allow parents to donate and stay on the higher (but maybe not highest) level team. Imagine coming from one of the big 5 clubs and trying to select a team where 3-4 have director level spots already in position but may not be good??? Tough for any coach… just saying.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 20, 2024 18:41:20 GMT -5
All I can say is there are coaches on the girls side at the higher levels at AFU GIRLS that are forced to take girls because of their relationship with the director. They tend to be trapped in the RL level. Also AFU has a policy you can only drop one level each year. So if you were a bubble or sucked at ECNL (stopped practicing) it will take you a few seasons to get to the level where other girls only practice with their team. ECNL or RL is for girls who hunger for soccer… think … watch… soccer all the time. Imagine… Ball at foot all the time or running without parents telling them too. The AFU director will allow parents to donate and stay on the higher (but maybe not highest) level team. Imagine coming from one of the big 5 clubs and trying to select a team where 3-4 have director level spots already in position but may not be good??? Tough for any coach… just saying. Yep |
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Post by southernsoccer on May 20, 2024 23:57:54 GMT -5
All I can say is there are coaches on the girls side at the higher levels at AFU GIRLS that are forced to take girls because of their relationship with the director. They tend to be trapped in the RL level. Also AFU has a policy you can only drop one level each year. So if you were a bubble or sucked at ECNL (stopped practicing) it will take you a few seasons to get to the level where other girls only practice with their team. ECNL or RL is for girls who hunger for soccer… think … watch… soccer all the time. Imagine… Ball at foot all the time or running without parents telling them too. The AFU director will allow parents to donate and stay on the higher (but maybe not highest) level team. Imagine coming from one of the big 5 clubs and trying to select a team where 3-4 have director level spots already in position but may not be good??? Tough for any coach… just saying. Yep Wow. This is a really bad way to operate your club for so many reasons. I thought most clubs took the best kids possible and maybe even poached them and then would callously disregard current players. Awful thing to do, but at least your club would appear successful. It seems really stupid to have money buy spots on a team for players who don't deserve it. This approach seems like a way to guarantee some of your teams do really poorly. I guess the money makes up for bad standings. I'm sure that more than one club does this and maybe AFU just happens to struggle in standings more than the rest of them. Oh well. It's a bad spot for any coach and too bad for new players. |
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Post by cluelessparents on May 21, 2024 14:08:07 GMT -5
Let me guess it’s all about wins and losses? Could it be possible they matched up with better teams across the country? a 0-4loss is still a loss with signs of some type development still needed but a 0-8, 0-9 is not signs of anything else but major development is needed!!!!! It’s not always about the wins but if the top team at the 2012 age group is losing games 0-8 that is very telling!!!!!! Who lost 8-0? |
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Post by cluelessparents on May 21, 2024 14:09:26 GMT -5
All I can say is there are coaches on the girls side at the higher levels at AFU GIRLS that are forced to take girls because of their relationship with the director. They tend to be trapped in the RL level. Also AFU has a policy you can only drop one level each year. So if you were a bubble or sucked at ECNL (stopped practicing) it will take you a few seasons to get to the level where other girls only practice with their team. ECNL or RL is for girls who hunger for soccer… think … watch… soccer all the time. Imagine… Ball at foot all the time or running without parents telling them too. The AFU director will allow parents to donate and stay on the higher (but maybe not highest) level team. Imagine coming from one of the big 5 clubs and trying to select a team where 3-4 have director level spots already in position but may not be good??? Tough for any coach… just saying. Wow. AFU director allows people to donate money to the club to stay on top team? What age group has that happened with? |
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Post by soccergurl on May 21, 2024 14:32:06 GMT -5
All I can say is there are coaches on the girls side at the higher levels at AFU GIRLS that are forced to take girls because of their relationship with the director. They tend to be trapped in the RL level. Also AFU has a policy you can only drop one level each year. So if you were a bubble or sucked at ECNL (stopped practicing) it will take you a few seasons to get to the level where other girls only practice with their team. ECNL or RL is for girls who hunger for soccer… think … watch… soccer all the time. Imagine… Ball at foot all the time or running without parents telling them too. The AFU director will allow parents to donate and stay on the higher (but maybe not highest) level team. Imagine coming from one of the big 5 clubs and trying to select a team where 3-4 have director level spots already in position but may not be good??? Tough for any coach… just saying. |me tink if afu no haf ecnl they fold or ufa take over| |me tink it funni they try 2 recruit|
|me tink club no develop| |me tink it funni they try 2 recruit| |me tink coach ego & cray cray parents ruin club| |me tink it funni they try 2 recruit| |me tink come 2 UFA!!!!!!!!|
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Post by mamasoccer on May 21, 2024 14:45:46 GMT -5
a 0-4loss is still a loss with signs of some type development still needed but a 0-8, 0-9 is not signs of anything else but major development is needed!!!!! It’s not always about the wins but if the top team at the 2012 age group is losing games 0-8 that is very telling!!!!!! Who lost 8-0? 2012 gurkz |
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Post by mamasoccer on May 21, 2024 14:46:33 GMT -5
girls I meant sorry. Both top team. Trey 0-8 and Scott 0-9. |
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Post by cluelessparents on May 21, 2024 15:06:16 GMT -5
girls I meant sorry. Both top team. Trey 0-8 and Scott 0-9. Where did this happen? The Greer showcase post scores and I do not see a 0-8 loss. |
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Post by mamasoccer on May 21, 2024 15:25:15 GMT -5
girls I meant sorry. Both top team. Trey 0-8 and Scott 0-9. Where did this happen? The Greer showcase post scores and I do not see a 0-8 loss. 0-9 for Scott’s team and 0-6 for Trey, my apologies. None the less still quite a whopping. These games were in Greer 5/10-5/12. You seem informed look it up. |
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Post by cluelessparents on May 21, 2024 15:42:35 GMT -5
Where did this happen? The Greer showcase post scores and I do not see a 0-8 loss. 0-9 for Scott’s team and 0-6 for Trey, my apologies. None the less still quite a whopping. These games were in Greer 5/10-5/12. You seem informed look it up. I got it. 1 team went 1-1-1 the other 0-3. I’m guessing one of them is soon to be ECNL for 1/2 the current team then new players for the other 1/2. The other team will be RL made up of those that drop plus new additions. Tryouts started this week for that age group. How was the turnout? |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 21, 2024 15:42:55 GMT -5
girls I meant sorry. Both top team. Trey 0-8 and Scott 0-9. Where did this happen? The Greer showcase post scores and I do not see a 0-8 loss. I didn’t see them either when I looked them up but she says she has a kid on one of the teams so I assume she’s right. |
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Post by playfromtheback on May 21, 2024 16:13:00 GMT -5
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Post by mamasoccer on May 21, 2024 17:05:30 GMT -5
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Post by mamasoccer on May 21, 2024 17:08:43 GMT -5
0-9 for Scott’s team and 0-6 for Trey, my apologies. None the less still quite a whopping. These games were in Greer 5/10-5/12. You seem informed look it up. I got it. 1 team went 1-1-1 the other 0-3. I’m guessing one of them is soon to be ECNL for 1/2 the current team then new players for the other 1/2. The other team will be RL made up of those that drop plus new additions. Tryouts started this week for that age group. How was the turnout? Yesterday about 25 new girls, we will see tonight. |
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Post by cluelessparents on May 21, 2024 23:25:05 GMT -5
I got it. 1 team went 1-1-1 the other 0-3. I’m guessing one of them is soon to be ECNL for 1/2 the current team then new players for the other 1/2. The other team will be RL made up of those that drop plus new additions. Tryouts started this week for that age group. How was the turnout? Yesterday about 25 new girls, we will see tonight. I hope all goes well for your child and they have a successful tryout and season ahead. |
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Post by southernsoccer on May 28, 2024 0:20:01 GMT -5
Okay so it turns out my friend's daughter is headed to AFU for tryouts tomorrow. I learned about this last minute. She is a 2008 who is probably looking at Edwin Romero or Chris Kane being her coach. Aside from the alleged donations issue are there any other big red flags? How are these two as coaches? I know one person said development wasn't good but I've only ever had experience watching AFU during ECNL and WPSL games. I'll also be starting a new thread because I'm hoping this won't get lost. Thank you!!
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 28, 2024 6:54:28 GMT -5
Okay so it turns out my friend's daughter is headed to AFU for tryouts tomorrow. I learned about this last minute. She is a 2008 who is probably looking at Edwin Romero or Chris Kane being her coach. Aside from the alleged donations issue are there any other big red flags? How are these two as coaches? I know one person said development wasn't good but I've only ever had experience watching AFU during ECNL and WPSL games. I'll also be starting a new thread because I'm hoping this won't get lost. Thank you!! Chris Kane is a fantastic coach and person. My daughter played for him for 2 seasons. |
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Post by Keeper on May 28, 2024 9:29:34 GMT -5
I would go ahead and email Chris Kane or AFU if you’re interested in that ECNL RL team. I know they’ve recruited and offered quite a few players already with all the movement coming in the 08 age group.
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 28, 2024 11:02:55 GMT -5
I would go ahead and email Chris Kane or AFU if you’re interested in that ECNL RL team. I know they’ve recruited and offered quite a few players already with all the movement coming in the 08 age group. I've been hearing the same thing about AFU making tons of offers to all the girls (at the very least, in the age groups affected by the UFA/CF coaching changes). Like many more than the 18-man roster, so I agree it would be helpful to find out if there will actually be enough spots for all those offered. I'm likening it to an airline that overbooks passengers in the hopes that they don't have a full a plane.  It would be wise to look into it like Keeper suggested. |
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Post by mamadona on May 28, 2024 11:28:56 GMT -5
I would go ahead and email Chris Kane or AFU if you’re interested in that ECNL RL team. I know they’ve recruited and offered quite a few players already with all the movement coming in the 08 age group. I've been hearing the same thing about AFU making tons of offers to all the girls (at the very least, in the age groups affected by the UFA/CF coaching changes). Like many more than the 18-man roster, so I agree it would be helpful to find out if there will actually be enough spots for all those offered. I'm likening it to an airline that overbooks passengers in the hopes that they don't have a full a plane. It would be wise to look into it like Keeper suggested. Wow… do you know if that includes 2010 too? Asking for a friend. |
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Post by Keeper on May 28, 2024 11:31:53 GMT -5
I've been hearing the same thing about AFU making tons of offers to all the girls (at the very least, in the age groups affected by the UFA/CF coaching changes). Like many more than the 18-man roster, so I agree it would be helpful to find out if there will actually be enough spots for all those offered. I'm likening it to an airline that overbooks passengers in the hopes that they don't have a full a plane. It would be wise to look into it like Keeper suggested. Wow… do you know if that includes 2010 too? Asking for a friend. Yes I’m pretty sure Mirza has already made most cuts and made offers. Chris taking over for Mary Morris could have spots but again heard there’s a lot that have been offered. I would make sure your at night one for those if you’re interested. |
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Post by futbolhero on May 28, 2024 12:28:51 GMT -5
I've been hearing the same thing about AFU making tons of offers to all the girls (at the very least, in the age groups affected by the UFA/CF coaching changes). Like many more than the 18-man roster, so I agree it would be helpful to find out if there will actually be enough spots for all those offered. I'm likening it to an airline that overbooks passengers in the hopes that they don't have a full a plane. It would be wise to look into it like Keeper suggested. Wow… do you know if that includes 2010 too? Asking for a friend. Almost all clubs in all leagues at the highest level have the team set prior to the first day of tryouts other than maybe 1-2 spots. Stipulation to the offer is that those players attend tryouts. |
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Post by natlsoccer on May 29, 2024 17:44:20 GMT -5
AFU 2009 girls may be looking for keepers in the lower teams - 2-4th levels.
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Post by developmentislife on Jun 3, 2024 0:28:20 GMT -5
One coach parents should seriously do their due diligence before considering joining the Academy U9 2016 Girls team next season is Gailey. Not sure he has trained girls before at AFU since he joined less than two years ago but he has trained boys so you are more likely to get input from parents on that side of the Academy. Don't take that decision lightly. Gailey is not the coach. I’ve heard of the guy having literal hour and a half long practices that are all scrimmage. No small sided games no skill activation not even a warm up. He can go the whole hour and a half without stopping the practice ONCE to maybe (call me crazy) COACH the players. Several parents commented on how much cheaper it would be (and just as effective) to just get the players together and throw a ball out there for them to play. He’s had success with his teams but according to parents he’s been blessed with players that have been developed by other coaches whether in past seasons or extra private training |
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