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Post by soccerfun1723 on May 13, 2024 6:43:44 GMT -5
New to the area. Can anyone give some info on AFU club wide on the girls side? How do they stack up w the rest of Big 5?
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Post by Keeper on May 13, 2024 8:20:55 GMT -5
New to the area. Can anyone give some info on AFU club wide on the girls side? How do they stack up w the rest of Big 5? What Age group, and are you talking ECNL or just overall? I'd say middle of the pack for the most part. Theyre not Tophat or Concorde but can compete or beat GSA and SSA. UFA has a lot of moving pieces this year too but they could rebound fast too. AFU is just hit or miss on who the coach is and how toxic the parents are already.
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Post by maze on May 13, 2024 8:52:41 GMT -5
The 2009 are a pretty strong team and are taking advantage of the UFA/Concorde Platinum changing of the guard. They are only going to be stronger this coming season. Dom has done a really good job with that team.
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Post by Keeper on May 13, 2024 11:32:35 GMT -5
ECNL 2009 and 2012 specifically. Looking to maybe tryout there next week and week after. 2012s have been just okay through academy, but with Vince taking things over and Concorde shooting themselves in the foot with their coaching decision they could become a strong team. RL under Abel will struggle most likely though.
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Post by mamasoccer on May 13, 2024 12:30:28 GMT -5
Si Abel is not a developing type of coach? AFU academy level at the 2012 level has been terrible these past few season!9
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 13, 2024 13:48:11 GMT -5
The 2009 are a pretty strong team and are taking advantage of the UFA/Concorde Platinum changing of the guard. They are only going to be stronger this coming season. Dom has done a really good job with that team. I wouldn't say the 2009 team were a strong team, but decent for sure. They had a bounce this year based on their past seasons where they were not so good, but they were improved. As for the UFA/Concorde Platinum change, I think everyone is waiting to see how that will fall out and I think AFU will not necessarily be the only team seeing it as an opportunity to strengthen their own club. That being said, I'd say NO "advantages" should be granted as given to any of the other clubs at this time. A LOT of unknowns and balls in the air to know where they will land. Unless you are Concorde Platinum, each year can change and be better or worse than the last. Be wary of anyone telling you that everything is going to be great and take it with a grain of salt, some people have agendas that try to sway others. Your best bet is to not limit your tryouts to one team and go to as many as you can to, to get a feel for the coaches and the players to see if it is a good fit for your player. While you might get some insight off a soccer forum, the only way to truly know is to see it and judge for yourself.
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Post by Panenka on May 14, 2024 8:12:32 GMT -5
One coach parents should seriously do their due diligence before considering joining the Academy U9 2016 Girls team next season is Gailey. Not sure he has trained girls before at AFU since he joined less than two years ago but he has trained boys so you are more likely to get input from parents on that side of the Academy. Don't take that decision lightly.
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Post by mrsports on May 14, 2024 9:04:06 GMT -5
AFU's academy doesn't play Concorde, UFA, GSA and some of the Tophat locations. Atleast on the girls side.
Does anybody know why?
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 14, 2024 9:38:01 GMT -5
AFU's academy doesn't play Concorde, UFA, GSA and some of the Tophat locations. Atleast on the girls side. Does anybody know why? Some speculation is that they are worried about their players being seen by those other clubs and possibly losing them. Not saying that is true, but it is at least plausible.
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Post by soccergirlz on May 14, 2024 12:50:10 GMT -5
If you are planning to tryout for ECNL, I would already be reaching out to coaches at AFU and other clubs. They are all already evaluating players and having "informal" tryouts. Bottomline, dont wait until tryouts to talk to a club.
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Post by soccerfun1723 on May 14, 2024 13:42:32 GMT -5
If you are planning to tryout for ECNL, I would already be reaching out to coaches at AFU and other clubs. They are all already evaluating players and having "informal" tryouts. Bottomline, dont wait until tryouts to talk to a club. Thanks for the info
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Post by ball2futbol on May 14, 2024 14:27:40 GMT -5
AFU's academy doesn't play Concorde, UFA, GSA and some of the Tophat locations. Atleast on the girls side. Does anybody know why? That must be something new. I recall my kids playing AFU multiple times while in academy.
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Post by mrsports on May 14, 2024 14:31:52 GMT -5
AFU's academy doesn't play Concorde, UFA, GSA and some of the Tophat locations. Atleast on the girls side. Does anybody know why? That must be something new. I recall my kids playing AFU multiple times while in academy. I have noticed it the last two seasons. I'm not sure if AFU is hiding from teams or if they have pissed everybody off.
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Post by Panenka on May 14, 2024 14:56:30 GMT -5
That must be something new. I recall my kids playing AFU multiple times while in academy. I have noticed it the last two seasons. I'm not sure if AFU is hiding from teams or if they have pissed everybody off. When my child started Academy soccer at AFU we did play some of those teams mentioned above during the '22-'23 regular season games. But this past year the list expanded to GSA and UFA. It's not just regular season games but tournaments organized by those clubs are also off limits. Vice versa those clubs don't participate in AFU tournaments either. I don't know what is the cause of this situation, but if multiple teams don't play against AFU and all those clubs continue to play against each other then somehow it points to AFU being the problem. Sadly, it's the kids that miss out on great competition due to adult politics. We decided to leave AFU, this was one of the reasons.
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Post by atlchiefs on May 14, 2024 14:58:12 GMT -5
Here's the short version.
First, there's an entire back and forth thread from a while back about this topic. And second, the people at UFA got pissed off when a boys coach left and took and entire team or teams to AFU about two years ago, presumably violating recruiting rules. Since, they stopped playing academy games and stopped participating in each other's tournaments. Then, word has it that UFA reached out to GSA and Concorde to ask them to stop playing AFU in academy games as well.
IMO, it's all quite silly considering how many coaches leave one club to go to another with players in tow. I wonder what will happen with the whole UFA ECNL coaching issue, especially since that began prior to approved recruiting calendars. Will UFA cease to play Concorde because of that issue?
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Post by bogan on May 14, 2024 16:23:40 GMT -5
Here's the short version. First, there's an entire back and forth thread from a while back about this topic. And second, the people at UFA got pissed off when a boys coach left and took and entire team or teams to AFU about two years ago, presumably violating recruiting rules. Since, they stopped playing academy games and stopped participating in each other's tournaments. Then, word has it that UFA reached out to GSA and Concorde to ask them to stop playing AFU in academy games as well. IMO, it's all quite silly considering how many coaches leave one club to go to another with players in tow. I wonder what will happen with the whole UFA ECNL coaching issue, especially since that began prior to approved recruiting calendars. Will UFA cease to play Concorde because of that issue? Sounds like collusion…
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Post by anonymous123 on May 15, 2024 10:15:16 GMT -5
Si Abel is not a developing type of coach? AFU academy level at the 2012 level has been terrible these past few season!9 Define terrible?
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 15, 2024 12:09:19 GMT -5
Here's the short version. First, there's an entire back and forth thread from a while back about this topic. And second, the people at UFA got pissed off when a boys coach left and took and entire team or teams to AFU about two years ago, presumably violating recruiting rules. Since, they stopped playing academy games and stopped participating in each other's tournaments. Then, word has it that UFA reached out to GSA and Concorde to ask them to stop playing AFU in academy games as well. IMO, it's all quite silly considering how many coaches leave one club to go to another with players in tow. I wonder what will happen with the whole UFA ECNL coaching issue, especially since that began prior to approved recruiting calendars. Will UFA cease to play Concorde because of that issue? In what other world would this childish foolishness amongst mostly supposed grown men be tolerated. This continues to be the only product that we the parents spend hard-earned money on, yet have zero input or say to the value of the service we get in return. Rinse + Repeat... p.s. Yet most of us will return next year, mumbling under our breath how idiotic this is...
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Post by mamasoccer on May 15, 2024 14:44:23 GMT -5
Here's the short version. First, there's an entire back and forth thread from a while back about this topic. And second, the people at UFA got pissed off when a boys coach left and took and entire team or teams to AFU about two years ago, presumably violating recruiting rules. Since, they stopped playing academy games and stopped participating in each other's tournaments. Then, word has it that UFA reached out to GSA and Concorde to ask them to stop playing AFU in academy games as well. IMO, it's all quite silly considering how many coaches leave one club to go to another with players in tow. I wonder what will happen with the whole UFA ECNL coaching issue, especially since that began prior to approved recruiting calendars. Will UFA cease to play Concorde because of that issue? In what other world would this childish foolishness amongst mostly supposed grown men be tolerated. This continues to be the only product that we the parents spend hard-earned money on, yet have zero input or say to the value of the service we get in return. Rinse + Repeat... p.s. Yet most of us will return next year, mumbling under our breath how idiotic this is...
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Post by mamasoccer on May 15, 2024 14:44:42 GMT -5
Si Abel is not a developing type of coach? AFU academy level at the 2012 level has been terrible these past few season!9 Define terrible?
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Post by mamasoccer on May 15, 2024 14:45:28 GMT -5
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Post by mamasoccer on May 15, 2024 14:46:17 GMT -5
did you not see how badly they were just beaten at the ECNL showcase in Greer?
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Post by futbolhero on May 15, 2024 14:49:52 GMT -5
did you not see how badly they were just beaten at the ECNL showcase in Greer? Let me guess it’s all about wins and losses? Could it be possible they matched up with better teams across the country?
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Post by mamasoccer on May 15, 2024 15:53:03 GMT -5
did you not see how badly they were just beaten at the ECNL showcase in Greer? Let me guess it’s all about wins and losses? Could it be possible they matched up with better teams across the country? a 0-4loss is still a loss with signs of some type development still needed but a 0-8, 0-9 is not signs of anything else but major development is needed!!!!! It’s not always about the wins but if the top team at the 2012 age group is losing games 0-8 that is very telling!!!!!!
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Post by mrsports on May 15, 2024 16:51:46 GMT -5
Let me guess it’s all about wins and losses? Could it be possible they matched up with better teams across the country? a 0-4loss is still a loss with signs of some type development still needed but a 0-8, 0-9 is not signs of anything else but major development is needed!!!!! It’s not always about the wins but if the top team at the 2012 age group is losing games 0-8 that is very telling!!!!!! That wasn’t the top team. AFU has a pool with two teams. The 2012 group is solid. I doubt they are beating many of the big 5 but they are far from terrible.
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Post by mamasoccer on May 15, 2024 17:35:11 GMT -5
a 0-4loss is still a loss with signs of some type development still needed but a 0-8, 0-9 is not signs of anything else but major development is needed!!!!! It’s not always about the wins but if the top team at the 2012 age group is losing games 0-8 that is very telling!!!!!! That wasn’t the top team. AFU has a pool with two teams. The 2012 group is solid. I doubt they are beating many of the big 5 but they are far from terrible.
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Post by mamasoccer on May 15, 2024 17:36:22 GMT -5
That wasn’t the top team. AFU has a pool with two teams. The 2012 group is solid. I doubt they are beating many of the big 5 but they are far from terrible. Lol, trust me I know, my daughter plays on that top team. Coach Trey and Coach Scott, look them up in SCCL they are both at the bottom.
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Post by mamasoccer on May 15, 2024 17:56:04 GMT -5
Lol, trust me I know, my daughter plays on that top team. Coach Trey and Coach Scott, look them up in SCCL they are both at the bottom.
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Post by anonymous123 on May 15, 2024 20:53:53 GMT -5
Lol, trust me I know, my daughter plays on that top team. Coach Trey and Coach Scott, look them up in SCCL they are both at the bottom. 0-8 ouch, seems like they don't have anyone that can score, swiss cheese as a backline, and no keeper, lol. I guess if 2012s are looking to play ECNL/ECNL-R there will be spots at AFU. Are the players/parents jumping ship? Is there player movement/promotion from 2nd to 1st?
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 15, 2024 20:56:45 GMT -5
Lol, trust me I know, my daughter plays on that top team. Coach Trey and Coach Scott, look them up in SCCL they are both at the bottom. 0-8 ouch, seems like they don't have anyone that can score, swiss cheese as a backline, and no keeper, lol. I guess if 2012s are looking to play ECNL/ECNL-R there will be spots at AFU. Are the players/parents jumping ship? Is there player movement/promotion from 2nd to 1st? That was my first thought- this sounds more like a talent problem than a coaching problem.
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