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Post by soccer11mom on May 25, 2024 10:35:18 GMT -5
Those who tried out for only your home club and are not satisfied with your offer—-what options do you have ?!?! If any???
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Post by southernsoccer on May 25, 2024 11:27:48 GMT -5
Those who tried out for only your home club and are not satisfied with your offer—-what options do you have ?!?! If any??? A fair warning before you do anything: If your current club gets wind of what you’re doing they might make your decision for you. So be 100% sure that your player can play at a higher level before leaving and keep it quiet as long as possible. If you go the training session route your player needs to be better or just as good as half of the current team for most coaches to make that commitment. They may take your player if they are in the bottom half of talent, but then they’re fighting for playing time constantly and that’s never a fun situation. Have those talks with the coaches. Ask them how much of an impact they see your kid making to avoid a really sucky season. Anyway, I’d say explain the situation to coaches, usually through email, and hope they can give you training sessions to supplement for tryouts. Most coaches at higher levels at big clubs had most of their team set before tryouts. So if there’s a smaller club with the same level you’re looking for then I’d try there first. Also, sometimes clubs will have supplemental tryouts because they weren’t able to fill out their rosters completely. Be on the lookout for those posts coming soon. If a summer league team has an opening at a club you’re interested in, explore that possibility. Coaches can make recommendations once they see your kid play.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 25, 2024 11:30:21 GMT -5
Some clubs have supplemental tryouts so you could try one of those. You could contact clubs nearby and see if they have open spots in your age group and if they might be able to look at your child.
As a current parent of a rising 9th grader and now college kid and a new club and HS coach may I ask why you are unsatisfied with the offer you were given? I have been through the wringer with my kids and come out on the other side and with one kid with still have some struggles. As a new club coach I have fresh perspective on the difficulties and nuances of evaluating these kids at tryouts. I would be happy to answer questions and offer my perspective in DM if you would like. Full disclosure I evaluated 2015 and 2013 girls this year.
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 25, 2024 11:39:18 GMT -5
Those who tried out for only your home club and are not satisfied with your offer—-what options do you have ?!?! If any??? Sit it out this year, get a 2nd mortgage on the house, build a field behind it and pay for private training for the next year... come back fresh and ready to go in 2025! ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) ( seriously though, some people are willing to go to these extremes!) No seriously though. The options are quite limited after tryouts. The only suggestions I would have is maybe look for a club that has a coach you really like and will develop your kid. Call them up to see if they are interested. Some coaches will be sitting with a less-than-full roster like, 15, 16, 17 kids. If they see a player that can actually help they will sometimes be willing to extend their roster by 1. Also, some may not be willing to do this right now, but come the start of the new soccer season, when they actually get to see their teams on a daily basis, they may realize they need just a little more... so there could be a spot or two somewhere ( this is scenario will be very limited and leaves your kid with a chance of not having a team at all, VERY risky). Finally, you could accept the offer, have your kid ball-out, and show them he is deserving of playing-in as a designated player for the team above him. Also not likely, unless they were totally off on the clubs assessment of your kid because of only 3 days of tryouts. It not an ideal situation to be in, to say the least, but just network all the clubs and see if they are willing to do one-off tryouts or "supplemental" tryouts, and invite to come sit in on a practice with them. Good luck!
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Post by gobirds on May 25, 2024 13:10:10 GMT -5
My son (going into U13) has been rec league since he started playing a few years ago. We tried out for Concorde Fire last year (U12) at my son's request but I was not impressed with the org. There was no effort put into tryouts at all, newcomers were just put in a corner and told to scrimmage. Although we got an offer, we declined and returned to rec league for one more year. We supplemented with his middle school team, RDS and some TOCA.
This year we went to a different big club's tryouts and it was night and day. Coaches knew my son's name after the first day, coaches actually scrimmaged with the kids and got a feel for their game instead of talking amongst themselves and ignoring the kids. Words of encouragement on good plays and help correcting errors.
On the last night of tryouts they gave him an offer as well as some advice on what to work on this summer. It was night and day from our previous experience and we jumped on it.
Don't let these clubs hold you hostage. There are plenty of places to play, plenty of ways to get instruction and get better. Go with your gut and make sure your kid is having fun and in the right spot for them.
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Post by soccer11mom on May 25, 2024 13:29:19 GMT -5
To basically sum up my reasoning. There was a lot of shifting down between all of the teams in my child’s age group. My child was also training with the team above him for about a month in addition to his normal training days. We were also paying for training on the side. The comments we had received over the last few months about him were nothing but positive/great.
He was offered a spot on the team below him. When my husband asked the coach who called us how the tryout/evaluation process went because during the 3 days…he was not with this coach at all…the coaches response was “I’m not going to lie to you and say I saw your child, I did not see him at all.” With all of this being said, we travel far to this club, pay out of county fees and will now have 1 less day of training (2 instead of 3). I am really trying to see the positives but it is very hard.
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Post by Keeper on May 25, 2024 13:35:31 GMT -5
Reach out to the coaches of teams in your age group that may want to still add an extra player. If anything go to one of your closer clubs and see what they can do. Maybe start and play at a lower level, with a chance to train with a higher team. At least you’re closer to home plus it sounds like you’re on the outside at your current club so highly doubtful you’ll ever move up.
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Post by southernsoccer on May 25, 2024 13:52:23 GMT -5
To basically sum up my reasoning. There was a lot of shifting down between all of the teams in my child’s age group. My child was also training with the team above him for about a month in addition to his normal training days. We were also paying for training on the side. The comments we had received over the last few months about him were nothing but positive/great. He was offered a spot on the team below him. When my husband asked the coach who called us how the tryout/evaluation process went because during the 3 days…he was not with this coach at all…the coaches response was “I’m not going to lie to you and say I saw your child, I did not see him at all.” With all of this being said, we travel far to this club, pay out of county fees and will now have 1 less day of training (2 instead of 3). I am really trying to see the positives but it is very hard. Tough tough position to be in. This sucks and I'm sorry it's happened. Tryouts reveal everyone's true colors. I'd say stick to looking for other options but maybe don't burn a bridge until you need to. As you've experienced coaches can promise you the world and then things can change at the last minute. I was thinking another option would be to get with a private coach who has connections in club soccer. It's a great way to network and provides a little discretion. BTW all the things I've recommended are things my family has done when in sticky situations like this so hopefully something pans out! Soccer shouldn't be this stressful!!
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Post by soccer11mom on May 25, 2024 13:56:45 GMT -5
To basically sum up my reasoning. There was a lot of shifting down between all of the teams in my child’s age group. My child was also training with the team above him for about a month in addition to his normal training days. We were also paying for training on the side. The comments we had received over the last few months about him were nothing but positive/great. He was offered a spot on the team below him. When my husband asked the coach who called us how the tryout/evaluation process went because during the 3 days…he was not with this coach at all…the coaches response was “I’m not going to lie to you and say I saw your child, I did not see him at all.” With all of this being said, we travel far to this club, pay out of county fees and will now have 1 less day of training (2 instead of 3). I am really trying to see the positives but it is very hard. Tough tough position to be in. This sucks and I'm sorry it's happened. Tryouts reveal everyone's true colors. I'd say stick to looking for other options but maybe don't burn a bridge until you need to. As you've experienced coaches can promise you the world and then things can change at the last minute. I was thinking another option would be to get with a private coach who has connections in club soccer. It's a great way to network and provides a little discretion. BTW all the things I've recommended are things my family has done when in sticky situations like this so hopefully something pans out! Soccer shouldn't be this stressful!! You’re absolutely right. He has had a private coach (who happened to be his summer league coach last summer) through this club. Thank you for your input. Soccer shouldn’t be this stressful and has pretty much ruined my holiday weekend.
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Post by mrsports on May 25, 2024 15:53:08 GMT -5
To basically sum up my reasoning. There was a lot of shifting down between all of the teams in my child’s age group. My child was also training with the team above him for about a month in addition to his normal training days. We were also paying for training on the side. The comments we had received over the last few months about him were nothing but positive/great. He was offered a spot on the team below him. When my husband asked the coach who called us how the tryout/evaluation process went because during the 3 days…he was not with this coach at all…the coaches response was “I’m not going to lie to you and say I saw your child, I did not see him at all.” With all of this being said, we travel far to this club, pay out of county fees and will now have 1 less day of training (2 instead of 3). I am really trying to see the positives but it is very hard. Wait a year to move. It gives you time to figure out where you want to go and how to make it happen. Go into it with an open mind too. You might realize your son is on the correct team.
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Post by forzaitalia on May 25, 2024 16:20:16 GMT -5
To basically sum up my reasoning. There was a lot of shifting down between all of the teams in my child’s age group. My child was also training with the team above him for about a month in addition to his normal training days. We were also paying for training on the side. The comments we had received over the last few months about him were nothing but positive/great. He was offered a spot on the team below him. When my husband asked the coach who called us how the tryout/evaluation process went because during the 3 days…he was not with this coach at all…the coaches response was “I’m not going to lie to you and say I saw your child, I did not see him at all.” With all of this being said, we travel far to this club, pay out of county fees and will now have 1 less day of training (2 instead of 3). I am really trying to see the positives but it is very hard. I'm sorry this happened to you. It happened to my son last year where he was with the top team group for the whole 3 days of tryout, only to find out that he was called by the coach of the team below. I learned my lesson this year and started being proactive since 5/1, and loyalty to a club does not mean anything. If anything, he has been using this experience as a motivator until now.
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Post by mamadona on May 25, 2024 16:26:54 GMT -5
To basically sum up my reasoning. There was a lot of shifting down between all of the teams in my child’s age group. My child was also training with the team above him for about a month in addition to his normal training days. We were also paying for training on the side. The comments we had received over the last few months about him were nothing but positive/great. He was offered a spot on the team below him. When my husband asked the coach who called us how the tryout/evaluation process went because during the 3 days…he was not with this coach at all…the coaches response was “I’m not going to lie to you and say I saw your child, I did not see him at all.” With all of this being said, we travel far to this club, pay out of county fees and will now have 1 less day of training (2 instead of 3). I am really trying to see the positives but it is very hard. It sounds weird that he was training with the team above and then moved to the team below. I would try to ask for an explanation because it must be confusing to both your son and you. Were there a lot of new players at tryouts? Does your son play a position that was not needed on the higher teams? That's the only explanations I can think of. I would contact other clubs and see if he can get a spot, if not accept the lower team and work hard to move up either during the season or next. (And tryout somewhere else)
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Post by soccer11mom on May 25, 2024 16:31:23 GMT -5
To basically sum up my reasoning. There was a lot of shifting down between all of the teams in my child’s age group. My child was also training with the team above him for about a month in addition to his normal training days. We were also paying for training on the side. The comments we had received over the last few months about him were nothing but positive/great. He was offered a spot on the team below him. When my husband asked the coach who called us how the tryout/evaluation process went because during the 3 days…he was not with this coach at all…the coaches response was “I’m not going to lie to you and say I saw your child, I did not see him at all.” With all of this being said, we travel far to this club, pay out of county fees and will now have 1 less day of training (2 instead of 3). I am really trying to see the positives but it is very hard. I'm sorry this happened to you. It happened to my son last year where he was with the top team group for the whole 3 days of tryout, only to find out that he was called by the coach of the team below. I learned my lesson this year and started being proactive since 5/1, and loyalty to a club does not mean anything. If anything, he has been using this experience as a motivator until now. It sucks! He definitely does not belong on the team he’s been placed on. When you say being proactive since 5/1–can you elaborate? We will definitely handle things differently next year. It just sucks because for many clubs this is a new uniform cycle.
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Post by forzaitalia on May 25, 2024 16:36:19 GMT -5
I'm sorry this happened to you. It happened to my son last year where he was with the top team group for the whole 3 days of tryout, only to find out that he was called by the coach of the team below. I learned my lesson this year and started being proactive since 5/1, and loyalty to a club does not mean anything. If anything, he has been using this experience as a motivator until now. It sucks! He definitely does not belong on the team he’s been placed on. When you say being proactive since 5/1–can you elaborate? We will definitely handle things differently next year. It just sucks because for many clubs this is a new uniform cycle. We reached out to other teams and attended ID camps on other teams as well. Even when he joined his own team's ID camp and obviously performed well, he was never approached by next season's coach, while he was approached by 3 other teams' coach from outside club. It was an easy decision for us.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 25, 2024 17:36:22 GMT -5
I'm sorry this happened to you. It happened to my son last year where he was with the top team group for the whole 3 days of tryout, only to find out that he was called by the coach of the team below. I learned my lesson this year and started being proactive since 5/1, and loyalty to a club does not mean anything. If anything, he has been using this experience as a motivator until now. It sucks! He definitely does not belong on the team he’s been placed on. When you say being proactive since 5/1–can you elaborate? We will definitely handle things differently next year. It just sucks because for many clubs this is a new uniform cycle. Just out of curiosity are you aware if any of his teammates were also dropped? Was there a large influx of new people? Maybe the whole team dropped and it is just the same thing?
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Post by soccer11mom on May 25, 2024 18:53:38 GMT -5
It sucks! He definitely does not belong on the team he’s been placed on. When you say being proactive since 5/1–can you elaborate? We will definitely handle things differently next year. It just sucks because for many clubs this is a new uniform cycle. Just out of curiosity are you aware if any of his teammates were also dropped? Was there a large influx of new people? Maybe the whole team dropped and it is just the same thing? From what I’m being told there were multiple people dropped from each level. With that being said he has I think 6-7 of his teammates from previous team on his new team.
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Post by volvodrivinsoccermom on May 26, 2024 9:27:58 GMT -5
It sucks! He definitely does not belong on the team he’s been placed on. When you say being proactive since 5/1–can you elaborate? We will definitely handle things differently next year. It just sucks because for many clubs this is a new uniform cycle. We reached out to other teams and attended ID camps on other teams as well. Even when he joined his own team's ID camp and obviously performed well, he was never approached by next season's coach, while he was approached by 3 other teams' coach from outside club. It was an easy decision for us. What is an ID camp?
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 26, 2024 10:22:07 GMT -5
We reached out to other teams and attended ID camps on other teams as well. Even when he joined his own team's ID camp and obviously performed well, he was never approached by next season's coach, while he was approached by 3 other teams' coach from outside club. It was an easy decision for us. What is an ID camp? It’s basically a tryout before the official “tryouts”. They’re generally not held for Academy age groups, just Select (U13 and up). It’s a good way to explore other clubs. If a club is interested, typically an invitation to practice with the current team will follow. If your kid goes to multiple practices and they like him/her, often an offer is made before tryouts to secure them before they go back to their old club or another club, depending on the level of the team in question.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 26, 2024 10:46:33 GMT -5
It sucks! He definitely does not belong on the team he’s been placed on. When you say being proactive since 5/1–can you elaborate? We will definitely handle things differently next year. It just sucks because for many clubs this is a new uniform cycle. We reached out to other teams and attended ID camps on other teams as well. Even when he joined his own team's ID camp and obviously performed well, he was never approached by next season's coach, while he was approached by 3 other teams' coach from outside club. It was an easy decision for us. Sounds like the typical “need to leave to move up” scenario. Though that is not as true in the younger ages as it is once they hit U13.
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Post by soccersoccersoccer on May 28, 2024 9:12:08 GMT -5
Those who tried out for only your home club and are not satisfied with your offer—-what options do you have ?!?! If any??? What did you decide to do? We are facing the same problem
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Post by allthingsoccer on May 28, 2024 12:20:36 GMT -5
Went through this with one of the big 5 last year. Not one call back or email reply. had to go find other options.
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Post by soccer11mom on May 28, 2024 13:30:06 GMT -5
Those who tried out for only your home club and are not satisfied with your offer—-what options do you have ?!?! If any??? What did you decide to do? We are facing the same problem He has a tryout with another club closer to home tonight. It’s definitely a smaller club but depending on if they offer him a spot we may take this option for a year and continue training and go elsewhere next year. This is closer to home, cheaper and does not have added out of county costs.
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Post by soccer11mom on May 28, 2024 13:32:25 GMT -5
Went through this with one of the big 5 last year. Not one call back or email reply. had to go find other options. If we weren’t traveling far from home, taking a cut from training 3 days to 2 and still having to pay out of county costs..it would be a different story.
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Post by allthingsoccer on May 28, 2024 13:46:38 GMT -5
Went through this with one of the big 5 last year. Not one call back or email reply. had to go find other options. If we weren’t traveling far from home, taking a cut from training 3 days to 2 and still having to pay out of county costs..it would be a different story. Thats what we did and it turned out great! Local small club. Huge savings. ended up using that extra money saving to do privates and other camps.
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Post by soccer11mom on May 28, 2024 14:09:51 GMT -5
If we weren’t traveling far from home, taking a cut from training 3 days to 2 and still having to pay out of county costs..it would be a different story. Thats what we did and it turned out great! Local small club. Huge savings. ended up using that extra money saving to do privates and other camps. Thanks for your input! That is our ideas too.
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