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Post by redydc on Jun 14, 2024 9:39:45 GMT -5
What is the general consensus on ODP in Georgia? I assume that most selected players are from the Atlanta area due to the depth of talent and coach familiarity with a lot of the ECNL and MLS Next players, but is favoritism largely given to returning players? Are the same players typically rostered for each event, or are opportunities spread evenly?
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Post by soccernoleuk on Jun 14, 2024 10:35:34 GMT -5
I can only speak to our experiences on the girls side of Georgia ODP.
- At the younger ages, we never knew of anyone getting cut from the pool. Actually as the year went on, there were typically more and more players added. - At older ages there were definitely cuts. A lot of the players in the pool came from Metro Atlanta. I'm not sure if that is because of talent, more players in the area, or people not wanting to travel up to Atlanta for training all the time. - When we were involved, I would estimate 75%+ were from non-ECNL teams. This is mostly because GSA, Concorde, AFU & UFA didn't push ODP or even make mention of it a lot. Most of the players we played with came from Inter Atlanta, Roswell, Ambush, AFC Lightning and All-In. - Returning players definitely had an advantage during tryouts and at the beginning of the year, but it tended to even out as the year went on. However, I will say it really depended on the coach. - Event rosters were dependent on the coach. We had a coach one year that did his best to spread everything evenly. We had another coach a different year that definitely had his favorites.
Overall for us ODP was a good experience. It was extra training with different players and different coaches. Unfortunately I know people that had the exact opinion and thought it was crap. I think it all depends on what your mindset is going into it.
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Post by redydc on Jun 14, 2024 10:54:11 GMT -5
Thanks for taking the time to respond!
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Post by atlbuster on Jun 14, 2024 12:48:50 GMT -5
I can only speak to our experiences on the girls side of Georgia ODP. - At the younger ages, we never knew of anyone getting cut from the pool. Actually as the year went on, there were typically more and more players added. - At older ages there were definitely cuts. A lot of the players in the pool came from Metro Atlanta. I'm not sure if that is because of talent, more players in the area, or people not wanting to travel up to Atlanta for training all the time. - When we were involved, I would estimate 75%+ were from non-ECNL teams. This is mostly because GSA, Concorde, AFU & UFA didn't push ODP or even make mention of it a lot. Most of the players we played with came from Inter Atlanta, Roswell, Ambush, AFC Lightning and All-In. - Returning players definitely had an advantage during tryouts and at the beginning of the year, but it tended to even out as the year went on. However, I will say it really depended on the coach. - Event rosters were dependent on the coach. We had a coach one year that did his best to spread everything evenly. We had another coach a different year that definitely had his favorites. Overall for us ODP was a good experience. It was extra training with different players and different coaches. Unfortunately I know people that had the exact opinion and thought it was crap. I think it all depends on what your mindset is going into it. Agree with all of this. TH doesn't push ODP either. In my daughter's age group, we had a few folks who would travel in over an hour for training. My daughter was a trapped player (most girls she played with were a year ahead of her in school) and we found ODP to be particularly helpful the year that club stopped being year round due to high school. Other girls went and played high school, but she didn't have that option. ODP was about the only way she could get a full field run in the spring and have decent 11v11 training to go into tryouts in May. Once she got into high school, she played ODP for one more year then dropped it - club and high school were enough.
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Post by cluelessparents on Jun 14, 2024 13:14:15 GMT -5
1. If you play for or associated with a club that has a national or even a regional league, there is no need to do ODP. You will get plenty of recognition from your league games and showcases.
2. Many that have been around for a while remember ODP being the pathway to colleges and national teams. I would venture to say no one makes those teams solely from ODP.
3. ODP is okay for those that want extra touches and do not have national or regional exposure with their club team.
4. Clubs are all about marketing themselves to gain numbers. If they stand to gain from something they will push it. Affiliation with international clubs, specific tournament performance, playoff qualification and so forth. While clubs will not always push ODP coaches from local clubs sometimes coach ODP and will use it as a way to get in front of talent for their club.
In conclusion if you would like extra touches and it’s not too much of an inconvenience go for it as nothing bad should come from it.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 16, 2024 10:25:03 GMT -5
Kid played ODP and ECNL. Kid enjoyed the extra training. Luckily, our kid had a great coach and learned a lot as it was a different coach who had different strategies. Kid particularly enjoyed the week at the U of Alabama and the fact that 8 or 9 of the ODP team were also on his club team (they were a really strong club team). This has been years ago. Like all opportunities, a player gets out of an opportunity what they put into it. Good luck!
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Post by soccergurl on Jun 27, 2024 11:57:24 GMT -5
|me tink odp good up 2 U14| |me tink if u wit power 5 clubs, no do odp|
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Post by soccercent on Jul 9, 2024 10:53:16 GMT -5
Here’s a different perspective - If your kid wants to play College Soccer, it is a good addition to have. Even if he/she doesn’t intend in playing College soccer, it is still great to mention it in the Extra Curricular for the College.
As far as the talent pool, there is a lot to choose from but MLS Next players can’t participate unless they are not primary players.
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Post by redydc on Jul 15, 2024 13:39:35 GMT -5
Here’s a different perspective - If your kid wants to play College Soccer, it is a good addition to have. Even if he/she doesn’t intend in playing College soccer, it is still great to mention it in the Extra Curricular for the College. As far as the talent pool, there is a lot to choose from but MLS Next players can’t participate unless they are not primary players. Do some clubs make exceptions to that MLS Next rule (or maybe it's a coach's decision)? I'd heard some of the MLS Next boys from AFC Lightning were allowed to participate in ODP.
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Post by soccerrivals on Jul 16, 2024 10:32:55 GMT -5
Here’s a different perspective - If your kid wants to play College Soccer, it is a good addition to have. Even if he/she doesn’t intend in playing College soccer, it is still great to mention it in the Extra Curricular for the College. As far as the talent pool, there is a lot to choose from but MLS Next players can’t participate unless they are not primary players. Do some clubs make exceptions to that MLS Next rule (or maybe it's a coach's decision)? I'd heard some of the MLS Next boys from AFC Lightning were allowed to participate in ODP. Never heard of the MLS Next players rule... as far as I know, there are many MLS Next players from various clubs participate in ODP.
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Post by darp on Aug 13, 2024 9:31:19 GMT -5
How long after tryouts does it take for offer emails to go out?
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Post by rotgg on Aug 13, 2024 9:55:30 GMT -5
How long after tryouts does it take for offer emails to go out? They usually tell the players at the tryout if they made it or not
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Post by jcsoccerdad on Aug 13, 2024 10:59:48 GMT -5
There's two tryout dates. So maybe after the second day of tryouts?
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Post by gasoccer99 on Aug 13, 2024 12:01:57 GMT -5
How long after tryouts does it take for offer emails to go out? The first group of selections/invitations will be sent out later this week. From my understanding they are only taking a handful of players after the first tryout. Anyone not receiving an invitation this week is encouraged to return for the 2nd tryout date.
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Post by darp on Aug 13, 2024 14:44:36 GMT -5
How long after tryouts does it take for offer emails to go out? They usually tell the players at the tryout if they made it or not Maybe that's for the older kids? Definitely not the younger age groups. Emails actually went out about 30 minutes ago.
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Post by soccerdad20 on Aug 13, 2024 15:29:29 GMT -5
We were at the 2014 girls tryout on Sunday night. From my recollection, the coach in charge mentioned that they had "preselected" a set of girls through scouting and likely from the previous year that would be accepted this week. The remaining girls should go to second tryout in early Sep. This was our first experience with ODP and I thought the vibes were great. There were some seriously talented young women there and that talent honestly ran deep through the players in attendance. Good work parents and coaches!
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Post by darp on Aug 13, 2024 15:43:31 GMT -5
We were at the 2014 girls tryout on Sunday night. From my recollection, the coach in charge mentioned that they had "preselected" a set of girls through scouting and likely from the previous year that would be accepted this week. The remaining girls should go to second tryout in early Sep. This was our first experience with ODP and I thought the vibes were great. There were some seriously talented young women there and that talent honestly ran deep through the players in attendance. Good work parents and coaches! We were there Sunday as well. Was indeed a very good session!
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Post by rotgg on Aug 14, 2024 7:35:24 GMT -5
We were at the 2014 girls tryout on Sunday night. From my recollection, the coach in charge mentioned that they had "preselected" a set of girls through scouting and likely from the previous year that would be accepted this week. The remaining girls should go to second tryout in early Sep. This was our first experience with ODP and I thought the vibes were great. There were some seriously talented young women there and that talent honestly ran deep through the players in attendance. Good work parents and coaches! We were there Sunday as well. Was indeed a very good session! So the statement I made was Definitely correct
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Post by darp on Aug 14, 2024 8:43:13 GMT -5
We were there Sunday as well. Was indeed a very good session! So the statement I made was Definitely correct Haha! I can tell you I know of a few girls that were not a part of the program last year who got offer emails yesterday, which includes my own. And I know of girls who were on it last year, that didn't get invites on this round.
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Post by rotgg on Aug 14, 2024 8:45:53 GMT -5
So the statement I made was Definitely correct Haha! I can tell you I know of a few girls that were not a part of the program last year who got offer emails yesterday, which includes my own. And I know of girls who were on it last year, that didn't get invites on this round. Again thank you for confirming the statement I made
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Post by jcsoccerdad on Aug 29, 2024 7:18:52 GMT -5
Anybody receive an email yet from the 2013b tryouts for the boys?
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Post by rpsoccer on Aug 29, 2024 9:04:50 GMT -5
Check your spam folder, my email engine sent teamsnap addresses to the spam folder. We got the invite after 3 days of the tryouts.
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