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Post by zizou on Nov 3, 2014 18:26:46 GMT -5
These are described as being like a National Team training environment. No parents allowed! Can you imagine how nice that must be for the coaches and kids. Assume some people have had kids go, maybe even invited for return visits. If so, congratulations to them. Curious what they say about the sessions. What kind of things do they do? Assume they don't really need to work on technique at these things! Maybe quick one and two touch passing. Small sides games. Quality of play must be very high, but is it more intense than, say, training sessions for any of top teams in metro ATL? Also curious whether there is anything the general masses could learn from and use in their club team environment.
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Post by newtothis on Nov 3, 2014 21:04:34 GMT -5
My daughter has attended 5-6 sessions. The instructions say "no parents", however in most instances, you are allowed to watch from a distance. I've personally seen two training sessions. Everything is done at a high pace. I did not see a lot of coaching on the drills. If the player did not "get it" or perform well they moved on to the next one in line. However, each player had multiple opportunities. In one training session that I watched there were coaches timing players with stopwatches as they went through drills. They finish up with 11 vs 11 games. Some times the sessions are coached by college coaches in addition to US coaches.
I think some of the local club coaches could definitely take something positive from the session.
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Post by SoccerMom on Nov 4, 2014 8:57:06 GMT -5
My daughter has to 5-6 sessions as well. Parents are allowed to watch but its very quiet, no one says anything. I have been to all of them. They start of with drills and then move down to an actual game. They separate them into two groups and each pennie (sp) has a # on the back assigned to each kid. The coaches then take notes on the kids and you don't get any feedback from them. If they like what they saw, then they invite you back, if they don't you just don't get an invitation for the next one, but some kids may get invited again the following cycle/year. There's usually an NTC for girls every month and one for the boys every other month. The dates are listed online, you can get recommended by your club coach or ODP coach, once the kids are there though its up to their performance whether they get invited back or not.
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Post by zizou on Nov 4, 2014 11:14:31 GMT -5
My daughter has to 5-6 sessions as well. Parents are allowed to watch but its very quiet, no one says anything. I have been to all of them. They start of with drills and then move down to an actual game. They separate them into two groups and each pennie (sp) has a # on the back assigned to each kid. The coaches then take notes on the kids and you don't get any feedback from them. If they like what they saw, then they invite you back, if they don't you just don't get an invitation for the next one, but some kids may get invited again the following cycle/year. There's usually an NTC for girls every month and one for the boys every other month. The dates are listed online, you can get recommended by your club coach or ODP coach, once the kids are there though its up to their performance whether they get invited back or not. congratulations to your daughter...very helpful...was curious about what kinds of drills they do at the sessions...
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Post by zizou on Nov 4, 2014 11:15:53 GMT -5
My daughter has attended 5-6 sessions. The instructions say "no parents", however in most instances, you are allowed to watch from a distance. I've personally seen two training sessions. Everything is done at a high pace. I did not see a lot of coaching on the drills. If the player did not "get it" or perform well they moved on to the next one in line. However, each player had multiple opportunities. In one training session that I watched there were coaches timing players with stopwatches as they went through drills. They finish up with 11 vs 11 games. Some times the sessions are coached by college coaches in addition to US coaches. I think some of the local club coaches could definitely take something positive from the session. That is great...good for her...what kinds of drills did you see? different things from what you see in club environment?
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Post by oldboy on Nov 4, 2014 11:24:52 GMT -5
National Training Centers are misleadingly named. They are about identification rather than training. It's about bringing in the best players and seeing who might have the potential to move into the youth national team set-up.
It's a far different beast than your regular club training environment. Completely different goals. The two shouldn't be compared for that reason. Your club should be about improving players. NTCs are about monitoring and picking players.
That's why there's not much instruction. If kids "get it" they get checks in the boxes. If they don't, they don't. Keep getting it and you keep getting asked back and maybe find yourself in camp. Stop getting it and you stop getting invited. It's basically rolling try-outs.
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Post by SoccerMom on Nov 4, 2014 11:25:22 GMT -5
My daughter has to 5-6 sessions as well. Parents are allowed to watch but its very quiet, no one says anything. I have been to all of them. They start of with drills and then move down to an actual game. They separate them into two groups and each pennie (sp) has a # on the back assigned to each kid. The coaches then take notes on the kids and you don't get any feedback from them. If they like what they saw, then they invite you back, if they don't you just don't get an invitation for the next one, but some kids may get invited again the following cycle/year. There's usually an NTC for girls every month and one for the boys every other month. The dates are listed online, you can get recommended by your club coach or ODP coach, once the kids are there though its up to their performance whether they get invited back or not. congratulations to your daughter...very helpful...was curious about what kinds of drills they do at the sessions... Thanks!! Its mostly passing drills, they want to see their first touch. They want to see how they receive and pass the ball, they will do drills with everyone at the same time then they break them up into 2 groups. They also like to see communication and ownership of positions. My daughter plays one position at her club and a different one at NTC. Hoping to get invited to next session coming up, they do cut kids after every session and they were told last month they would be doing a lot more cutting for the upcoming one.
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Post by SoccerMom on Nov 4, 2014 11:29:55 GMT -5
National Training Centers are misleadingly named. They are about identification rather than training. It's about bringing in the best players and seeing who might have the potential to move into the youth national team set-up. It's a far different beast than your regular club training environment. Completely different goals. The two shouldn't be compared for that reason. Your club should be about improving players. NTCs are about monitoring and picking players. That's why there's not much instruction. If kids "get it" they get checks in the boxes. If they don't, they don't. Keep getting it and you keep getting asked back and maybe find yourself in camp. Stop getting it and you stop getting invited. It's basically rolling try-outs. Yes, its definitely not a training. Very little instruction, they only explain it once and they need to get it.
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Post by newtothis on Nov 4, 2014 12:26:50 GMT -5
I agree with the description of a "rolling tryout".
From what I saw they want to see who can move with the ball in a tight space with speed. Everyone at this level can dribble through cones but how fast can you do it? How close do you keep the ball to your body? How accurate is your pass to the next player? When they move into games they are looking for who can beat the defender with the ball.
I don't see these types of drills at my daughters club team. At least not to date. I would love for her team to get to that level.
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Post by soccerdad1 on Nov 4, 2014 15:18:31 GMT -5
Do they have the same looks at gk's? I'm assuming they do; I just haven't heard about these opportunities.
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Post by SoccerMom on Nov 5, 2014 8:47:07 GMT -5
Do they have the same looks at gk's? I'm assuming they do; I just haven't heard about these opportunities. Yes they invite GK's as well, usually 3 or 4 per group
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Post by zizou on Nov 11, 2014 15:08:54 GMT -5
So this is pretty interesting. From what I have gathered so far:
1. Fast paced, even to the point of drills being timed (like cone drills?). Certainly can understand them wanting to have players that can play at a high tempo. Speed kills. 2. The fast pace is critical not just for ability to perform drills quickly but think quickly as well. They want athletically AND cognitively fast players. 3. Is the separation into groups after some initial evaluation based on clearly a "better", or more experienced, group (meaning they forego the whole "pooling" idea at this level) or do they just randomly assign them into two groups? Suppose there are enough kids there that it makes assessment easier if they are not a mass of humanity. 4. I suppose if club coaches are there they could get feedback on their players. Maybe that is how some kids get invited back, even after a long delay? That is, after the kids improve in the requisite areas. 5. As an aside, I also suppose local coaches would not want to be recommending anyone for this; that could reflect badly on them and on their club. 6. It seems there should be some coordination between what the NTC evaluators are looking for and what is happening at the clubs. If not, how could the club environment be properly preparing players for these types of opportunities?
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Post by actualparent on Nov 13, 2014 14:23:35 GMT -5
Can anyone put out a link for one or more of these?
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Post by Soccerhouse on Nov 13, 2014 14:47:23 GMT -5
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Post by SoccerMom on Nov 13, 2014 15:52:20 GMT -5
actually it got moved to next week, they haven't posted the new dates. you wont be able to see locations either, they only send it to those invited
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Post by SoccerMom on Nov 13, 2014 15:53:40 GMT -5
So this is pretty interesting. From what I have gathered so far: 1. Fast paced, even to the point of drills being timed (like cone drills?). Certainly can understand them wanting to have players that can play at a high tempo. Speed kills. 2. The fast pace is critical not just for ability to perform drills quickly but think quickly as well. They want athletically AND cognitively fast players. 3. Is the separation into groups after some initial evaluation based on clearly a "better", or more experienced, group (meaning they forego the whole "pooling" idea at this level) or do they just randomly assign them into two groups? Suppose there are enough kids there that it makes assessment easier if they are not a mass of humanity. 4. I suppose if club coaches are there they could get feedback on their players. Maybe that is how some kids get invited back, even after a long delay? That is, after the kids improve in the requisite areas. 5. As an aside, I also suppose local coaches would not want to be recommending anyone for this; that could reflect badly on them and on their club. 6. It seems there should be some coordination between what the NTC evaluators are looking for and what is happening at the clubs. If not, how could the club environment be properly preparing players for these types of opportunities? club coaches don't really go to these, and no one talks to the coaches after. There really is no feedback, the say thank you and send you your way
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Post by roooney on Apr 24, 2015 7:30:05 GMT -5
have the girls finished their cycle for this year? as an 03 odp player, is my daughter's odp coach the best way to be invited? In general, do the odp coaches give recommendations?
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 24, 2015 11:36:36 GMT -5
have the girls finished their cycle for this year? as an 03 odp player, is my daughter's odp coach the best way to be invited? In general, do the odp coaches give recommendations? a cycle is usually 3 sessions, girls usually have 1 session a month. The cycle just ended monday and the next NTC is in May, they will invite back some of the kids and they will invite new kids. ODP coaches and club coaches can make a recommendation for your daughter.
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Post by newtothis on Apr 24, 2015 11:39:15 GMT -5
There was a session this week. It was the last one scheduled for spring at least that I know about.
My daughter was initially recommended by her ODP coaches. Your club DOC can also recommend your daughter as well.
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Post by roooney on Apr 24, 2015 12:21:37 GMT -5
Thanks!
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 24, 2015 13:30:22 GMT -5
There was a session this week. It was the last one scheduled for spring at least that I know about. My daughter was initially recommended by her ODP coaches. Your club DOC can also recommend your daughter as well. They told the girls that there is new cycle starting May 18
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Post by footy on Aug 29, 2016 9:16:55 GMT -5
How far in advance do invites go out? I see the 2001-2003 boys have one in Atlanta on September 14. www.ussoccerda.com/calendar-training-centers Do the girls have a schedule online as well? How does the selection process work? Do coaches and DOCs get solicited for nominations?
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Post by SoccerMom on Aug 29, 2016 11:29:46 GMT -5
How far in advance do invites go out? I see the 2001-2003 boys have one in Atlanta on September 14. www.ussoccerda.com/calendar-training-centers Do the girls have a schedule online as well? How does the selection process work? Do coaches and DOCs get solicited for nominations? A couple of weeks before
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