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Post by gtreferee on Oct 31, 2024 9:18:25 GMT -5
The 2024 Fall state cup and presidents cup elite 8 stage starts this weekend in Colombus, but most of the age groups on both M and F do not have 8 teams which means if you applied you got in. I think U17F has 2 teams, there is no F presidents cup at all, and boys presidents cup has max 4 teams per age group... Yet this tournament still matters hugely in the eyes of Georgia Soccer and the Georgia SRC. Its sad to see something that used to matter and is still used to evaluate up and coming referees in the state be lost to the US club alphabet soup and the chance to go to a national playoff.
I knowthe decline of USYS and Georgia Soccer + the growth of US Club is largely to blame for this. Yet it is still a good option for non Atlanta based team in smaller cities for less travel, I have heard all the arguments and sides. But the fragmented nature of youth soccer that truly prevents best on best competition and would be best for developpement is sad and this is a flashing sign example of it.
Youth soccer has too many stakeholders in this country that do not try to improve it and have such diverse and clashing interests.
State Cup used to mean so much more and I wish it could again for both the players and for the match quality for evaluating officials. I feel like it should, getting to be state champion should matter in this winning obsessed youth soccer environment. Congratulations to the teams going and good luck.
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Post by soccerforprofit on Oct 31, 2024 10:54:44 GMT -5
Yea, lets be honest its kind of joke when you have teams competing in nationals in their leagues, when they really are the 4-5th best team even in the state. back in the day, state cup meant something, win and go to regionals. No more -- all this happened around the same time as the age mandates and then US Club soccer expansion to micro regional leagues etc.
State ran soccer organizations are dead on arrival now
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Post by Soccerhouse on Oct 31, 2024 13:55:04 GMT -5
I've said this for years -- as i scream at the clouds: the state organizations had their opportunities to unite and make a change, instead they all applaud Sunati and kissed his a** on the way out.
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Post by darp on Oct 31, 2024 15:06:11 GMT -5
I've said this for years -- as i scream at the clouds: the state organizations had their opportunities to unite and make a change, instead they all applaud Sunati and kissed his a** on the way out. Serious question and generally curious to learn. What were the problems, and what changes could have been made?
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Post by triffling on Oct 31, 2024 17:00:56 GMT -5
Virginia has revamped their State Cup and are now doing it in conjunction with US Club Soccer which looks very promising in terms of offering a platform to determine true state champions. Hopefully more states can start doing this going forward. www.vysa.com/thevastatecup/It is a problem for referee development in Georgia that the official training opportunities in Georgia are still tied to State Cup and Presidents Cup when most of the higher-level youth play is not supported with structured referee development and training.
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Post by gtreferee on Oct 31, 2024 17:36:17 GMT -5
Virginia has revamped their State Cup and are now doing it in conjunction with US Club Soccer which looks very promising in terms of offering a platform to determine true state champions. Hopefully more states can start doing this going forward. www.vysa.com/thevastatecup/It is a problem for referee development in Georgia that the official training opportunities in Georgia are still tied to State Cup and Presidents Cup when most of the higher-level youth play is not supported with structured referee development and training. Exactly the 2nd part, the more challenging game situations with more crucial decisions are more decentralized and it is on the local assignor to ask the state for referee mentors or to do it themselves from mentors they know
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