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Post by Soccerhouse on Nov 14, 2024 13:14:15 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but for D1 mens programs in Georgia we have:
Georgia State - rpi 157, 4-8-5 overall, 1-5-3 in conference play ---- the doormat of the league 10 international player, 28 total players on roster: 35.7% international
Mercer - rpi 113. 6-5-7 overall, 1-2-2 in conference play ----- 2nd from bottom in league, only VMI is worse 0 international players, 31 total players on roster: 0% international
Georgia Southern - rpi 93, 6-7-4 overall, 2-5-2 in conference play -----3rd worst team in league 12 international players, 33 total players on roster: 36.4% international
Granted might be some error in international counts, if a kid went to high school in US, iI didn't count them if it was obvious
Georgia State and Southern are in a more difficult conference than mercer.
Not a very good year for these 3 schools, none will make the ncaa tournament Southern was bounced in first round of Sunbelt tourney, GA State didn't make the tourney Mercer lost in first round of SoCon tourney 2 of the 3 are heavy international and lets be honest, sucked this season.
I'm to lazy to break down the state of south carolina, but there is no comparison between the quality of youth soccer between these 2 states. Yet The state of south carolina has - South Carolina Clemson College of Charleston Furman Wofford Winthrop Coast Carolina Presbyterian Upstate
Sorry for being anti international but take a school like Georgia State, if your gonna Suck at least suck with domestic talent!! GSU is 8% international students, at least have no more than 8%-10% on the team. They were very difficult to watch this season, many international players getting minutes, that were NOT good players (yes, my opinion and my opinion only).
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Post by blu on Nov 14, 2024 13:33:48 GMT -5
I know at least 3 local ECNL players that have committed to Mercer next year so far.
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Post by Brinker on Nov 14, 2024 14:59:00 GMT -5
Georgia Southern had a fairly good year under a new coach and showed improvement. Mercer won the SoCon and made the NCAA tournament last year.
It is strange how there are so many more division 1 soccer options in South Carolina than Georgia. I would say that Georgia has better ECNL and MLSNext programs and has more soccer talent overall.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Nov 14, 2024 17:44:35 GMT -5
and for the record, i have zero issues with mercer -- if your gonna win or lose, do it with domestic talent.
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Post by datrain on Nov 14, 2024 18:44:11 GMT -5
It won't change a bit until Georgia Tech launches men's and women's teams. The good news is that J Batt was a member of UNC's 2001 national championship men's soccer team. If anyone could pull this off.....J Batt is your best bet
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Post by Soccerhouse on Nov 14, 2024 19:44:57 GMT -5
It won't change a bit until Georgia Tech launches men's and women's teams. The good news is that J Batt was a member of UNC's 2001 national championship men's soccer team. If anyone could pull this off.....J Batt is your best bet yea, we can dream that one day UGA and Ga Tech will have mens teams - dang would be sick!! I'd go to every ga tech game, would be so dang cool. we can dream! I stand by my statement -- It will take the SEC addding mens soccer for the US to take soccer to the next level, we need the sec mens soccer arms race. South Carolina leads in the country in attendance!
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Post by rifle on Nov 15, 2024 5:58:27 GMT -5
I believe Auburn added men’s soccer not terribly long ago.
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Post by rotgg on Nov 15, 2024 8:37:55 GMT -5
I believe Auburn added men’s soccer not terribly long ago. AU not showing a mens soccer team on their website link AU Montgomery does have a team link
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Post by rotgg on Nov 15, 2024 9:00:49 GMT -5
It won't change a bit until Georgia Tech launches men's and women's teams. The good news is that J Batt was a member of UNC's 2001 national championship men's soccer team. If anyone could pull this off.....J Batt is your best bet yea, we can dream that one day UGA and Ga Tech will have mens teams - dang would be sick!! I'd go to every ga tech game, would be so dang cool. we can dream! I stand by my statement -- It will take the SEC addding mens soccer for the US to take soccer to the next level, we need the sec mens soccer arms race. South Carolina leads in the country in attendance! Totally agree it will take an amrs race of some sort to get soccer going here in US
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Post by Soccerhouse on Nov 15, 2024 9:17:35 GMT -5
yea, until then we have to watch games like last night -- zero emotion and just uninspiring.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Nov 18, 2024 15:27:47 GMT -5
Well as expected no Georgia teams made the d1 ncaa tournament. Ha The great state of south carolina has Clemson Furman Gardner-webb (which I missed above)
Interesting from the sunbelt only Marshall and West Virginia
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Post by redydc on Nov 19, 2024 9:00:43 GMT -5
I believe Auburn added men’s soccer not terribly long ago. I believe Auburn only has club soccer for men.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Nov 19, 2024 9:48:52 GMT -5
Only SEC schools with mens soccer are Kentucky and South carolina, who both play in the sunbelt for mens soccer.
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Post by atlnoleg on Nov 19, 2024 10:53:51 GMT -5
Don't know much about the college soccer scene, but football is king in the South so it's not surprising even huge state schools in the SEC don't have men's soccer. So if you're a D1-caliber male player you're probably going out of state for college.
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Post by atlcoach84 on Nov 19, 2024 16:06:18 GMT -5
With the changing landscape at the Division 1 level, and larger football programs (like Tech and UGa) opting in to the new revenue-sharing model, there's even less of a chance that they would look to add Soccer at this time. A lot of D1 programs are cutting budgets, scholarships, and roster sizes (even further than the 28) just to continue to operate their Men's Soccer programs. There just isn't money available to take from FB to give to a non-revenue generating sport.
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Post by playfromtheback on Nov 19, 2024 16:21:05 GMT -5
With the changing landscape at the Division 1 level, and larger football programs (like Tech and UGa) opting in to the new revenue-sharing model, there's even less of a chance that they would look to add Soccer at this time. A lot of D1 programs are cutting budgets, scholarships, and roster sizes (even further than the 28) just to continue to operate their Men's Soccer programs. There just isn't money available to take from FB to give to a non-revenue generating sport. This is not me complaining about title 9 as I fully believe women should have equal opportunity as men. Football however has throws title 9 out of balance. No women's sport can offset the size of a football team. Also, the fact that schools have more roster spots and scholarships than are needed which only makes it worse. Men's sports like soccer, swimming, wrestling, and gymnastics have been casualties at many schools.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Nov 20, 2024 13:09:09 GMT -5
It won't change a bit until Georgia Tech launches men's and women's teams. The good news is that J Batt was a member of UNC's 2001 national championship men's soccer team. If anyone could pull this off.....J Batt is your best bet yea, we can dream that one day UGA and Ga Tech will have mens teams - dang would be sick!! I'd go to every ga tech game, would be so dang cool. we can dream! I stand by my statement -- It will take the SEC addding mens soccer for the US to take soccer to the next level, we need the sec mens soccer arms race. South Carolina leads in the country in attendance! I’d love to see Georgia Tech add both men’s and women’s soccer teams. The ACC already dominates in both men’s and women’s soccer, and adding another powerhouse program would be exciting. But unfortunately, with the current focus on football—especially with the shift to 28 full scholarships—I doubt GT or the SEC will make that move anytime soon. It was already tough when the NCAA only mandated 6.78 scholarships per team(JK), so adding soccer would require a significant commitment of resources. As much as it would be great, it seems like football's dominance over college athletics is holding back that kind of expansion...
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Nov 20, 2024 13:14:54 GMT -5
Well as expected no Georgia teams made the d1 ncaa tournament. Ha The great state of south carolina has Clemson Furman Gardner-webb (which I missed above) Interesting from the sunbelt only Marshall and West Virginia The RPI (Rating Percentage Index) is the ultimate determining factor when it comes to selecting teams for the NCAA tournament. For women’s soccer, 64 teams make the tournament, while the men’s side only gets 48 spots. Out of those, 30 teams for the women and 22 for the men get automatic bids by winning their respective conference tournaments. If you don’t secure that automatic spot, your hopes rest on having a strong RPI and a solid record. You need to be one of the remaining at-large selections—26 men’s teams and 32 women’s teams—if you want a chance at making the cut. So, if you don’t win your conference, you’d better have a resume that stands out to the selection committee...
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Post by Soccerhouse on Nov 20, 2024 13:47:02 GMT -5
Men's side is brutal to make it. I get it, less mens teams then womens, but field needs to be expanded -- too much quality left out, and take a team like High Point, won regular season of Big South, lost tourney, they didn't make it. (like mens basketball).
South Carolina improved this year, but no chance of making tourney, rpi was 65. They were no doubt a better side this season, but the bottom of the league wasn't great this year compared to previous seasons, so on paper 3 easy wins and that was the difference in the season. They led the country in attendance though, and last year had the highest gpa in the country 2021 - 5-9-2 2022 - 5-8-4 2023 - 6-9-3 2024 - 10-5-2
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Nov 20, 2024 14:18:10 GMT -5
Men's side is brutal to make it. I get it, less mens teams then womens, but field needs to be expanded -- too much quality left out, and take a team like High Point, won regular season of Big South, lost tourney, they didn't make it. (like mens basketball). South Carolina improved this year, but no chance of making tourney, rpi was 65. They were no doubt a better side this season, but the bottom of the league wasn't great this year compared to previous seasons, so on paper 3 easy wins and that was the difference in the season. They led the country in attendance though, and last year had the highest gpa in the country 2021 - 5-9-2 2022 - 5-8-4 2023 - 6-9-3 2024 - 10-5-2 I wonder if TA contract was extended. Didn't he sign a 4-year contract when he left AU?
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Post by Soccerhouse on Nov 20, 2024 15:39:55 GMT -5
yea, can't dig up the details of his contract, but did find this: "provides for a four-year term ending December 31, 2025.."
Seems to really be a 5 year term ending 2025....
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