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Post by diceshooter on Jul 28, 2015 15:03:44 GMT -5
Today I heard someone say that Region 3 has told clubs that U14 RPL will be fall season only, and there are no plans for spring games for those teams. That would really leave these teams "stranded" for the spring season.
Do any of our Region 3 experts know anything about this?
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Post by parsoc on Jul 28, 2015 21:40:28 GMT -5
That's how the North Carolina Youth Soccer Assn understands it. NCYSA expects all the U14 teams that play R3 in the fall to come back and play in the top NCYSA division in the spring. To make that happen the NCYSA has only put 7 teams in this NC Premier League for the fall, so that when the 5 NC R3 teams return to state play in the spring there will be the traditional 12 NC Premier League teams. What remains a little uncertain is how teams will be selected for U15 R3 Premier and 1st - will it be based on Fall u14 R3 play or based on Spring in-state play?
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Post by stevieg on Jul 29, 2015 5:52:22 GMT -5
So the 7 U14g RPL teams from Georgia will have to play Athena A in the spring? Region 3 continues to amaze me with their boneheaded plans. No wonder more people are trying out for ECNL every year.
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Post by parsoc on Jul 29, 2015 7:30:14 GMT -5
Agreed. IMHO, R3 was great competition at U13. Totally boneheaded and shortsighted to not have a spring u14 r3. Can anyone provide a good reason for this?
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Post by SoccerMom on Jul 29, 2015 13:30:57 GMT -5
I think they just didnt think it through when they decided to have a U13 rpl. The way it was before starting at U14 it wasnt an issue in the spring because the kids were in HS.
I have heard that for the boys theyre creating a special league and they will have their own division, I guess we just wait and see what happens. GA soccer is supposed to be working on this
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 29, 2015 14:34:48 GMT -5
So is this a done deal??
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Post by SoccerMom on Jul 30, 2015 7:04:17 GMT -5
Is what a done deal...no rpl in the spring? yes
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 30, 2015 7:27:20 GMT -5
Wow! all those kids that changed clubs to play rpl at the ecnl clubs also in the rising 14 group....
If your going to have rpl in the spring of u13 georgia soccer has to have a roster continuity requirement and non on of the BS double rostering kids.
This seems like a big step backwards in my opinion. whats the logic??
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Post by SoccerMom on Jul 30, 2015 7:42:41 GMT -5
It just wasnt an issue when rpl started at u14, because those kids play in HS. Whoever had the bright idea to start rpl at u13 just didnt think it through.
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Post by stevieg on Jul 30, 2015 7:42:45 GMT -5
I don't understand the logic. Didn't RPL start at U14 Spring until last year? What does high school have to do with it? No one on our U14 RPL team is going into high school.
What's the point of having 2 divisions then? How will promotion/relegation work if no one plays RPL in the Spring? I don't mind not having to travel as much, but be consistent. What's the reward for winning RPL? Athena A. Thanks - that sounds like something to play for.
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Post by SoccerMom on Jul 30, 2015 7:45:14 GMT -5
This is how it was last year...
The 14's played in Select in the fall and then went to rpl in the spring. This year those kids will play rpl in the fall and then HS in the spring. This is only an issue for the rising 14's
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Post by soccerdad44 on Jul 30, 2015 7:52:29 GMT -5
This is how it was last year... The 14's played in Select in the fall and then went to rpl in the spring. This year those kids will play rpl in the fall and then HS in the spring. This is only an issue for the rising 14's U14 is 8th graders, right? So 8th graders play high school soccer? Where? I'm guessing any 8th grader wanting to play high school soccer would have to petition to do that and get approval. And where I'm from, that isn't given very freely because the upper class kids/parents don't want younger kids pushing them out.
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Post by stevieg on Jul 30, 2015 7:55:09 GMT -5
This is how it was last year... The 14's played in Select in the fall and then went to rpl in the spring. This year those kids will play rpl in the fall and then HS in the spring. This is only an issue for the rising 14's Unlike normally, you're making no sense this time Vast majority of U14s don't play HS soccer. That's why ECNL U14 has a spring season as well (unlike U15-U18).
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Post by SoccerMom on Jul 30, 2015 7:55:26 GMT -5
I don't understand the logic. Didn't RPL start at U14 Spring until last year? What does high school have to do with it? No one on our U14 RPL team is going into high school. What's the point of having 2 divisions then? How will promotion/relegation work if no one plays RPL in the Spring? I don't mind not having to travel as much, but be consistent. What's the reward for winning RPL? Athena A. Thanks - that sounds like something to play for. When another team asked that question about promotion/relegation, they were told that would happen in the following fall based on this falls ending. I dont think the RPL would go back and play Athena A, it would have to be its own thing maybe between each other? youre talking about 5 teams here and if you reintroduced back into Athena A, everyone would have to get pushed down. I'm pretty sure GA soccer is working on this. Also these teams can call each other up and schedule stuff between each other cant they? I guess we just wait....
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Post by SoccerMom on Jul 30, 2015 8:00:51 GMT -5
This is how it was last year... The 14's played in Select in the fall and then went to rpl in the spring. This year those kids will play rpl in the fall and then HS in the spring. This is only an issue for the rising 14's Unlike normally, you're making no sense this time Vast majority of U14s don't play HS soccer. That's why ECNL U14 has a spring season as well (unlike U15-U18). Haha...im making sense to me in my head!! lol lemme see if i can explain me better. If things were like in the past and we wouldnt have played rpl last spring as U13's. the rising 14's would be playing Athena/Classic this fall and then rpl in the spring. when those kids go to u15 they only need one season of rpl. What screwed everything up is having U13 rpl, they didnt realize that those kids at u14 would need 2 seasons because they didnt need it in the past.
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Post by stevieg on Jul 30, 2015 8:02:22 GMT -5
It's 7 teams in U14 so I guess we could play a home & home (12 game) schedule. UFA, TH, AFU, CF, SSA, NASA, Dacula. Actually, that might have been preferable for fall now that I look at the number of weekends we have to spend traveling. LOL
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Post by stevieg on Jul 30, 2015 8:06:53 GMT -5
Unlike normally, you're making no sense this time Vast majority of U14s don't play HS soccer. That's why ECNL U14 has a spring season as well (unlike U15-U18). Haha...im making sense to me in my head!! lol lemme see if i can explain me better. If things were like in the past and we wouldnt have played rpl last spring as U13's. the rising 14's would be playing Athena/Classic this fall and then rpl in the spring. when those kids go to u15 they only need one season of rpl. What screwed everything up is having U13 rpl, they didnt realize that those kids at u14 would need 2 seasons because they didnt need it in the past. I figured that's what you meant, but then why have it in the Fall at all? If they can't manage two seasons, then have it in the Spring. Of course, this whole discussion is just us trying to speculate on what a bunch of RIII people are thinking, so I should just go back to work and not worry about it.
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Post by SoccerMom on Jul 30, 2015 8:07:24 GMT -5
It's 7 teams in U14 so I guess we could play a home & home (12 game) schedule. UFA, TH, AFU, CF, SSA, NASA, Dacula. Actually, that might have been preferable for fall now that I look at the number of weekends we have to spend traveling. LOL all rpl teams are on the same boat and they will have to work with each other and yes no crazy traveling except for tournaments
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 30, 2015 8:07:36 GMT -5
It's 7 teams in U14 so I guess we could play a home & home (12 game) schedule. UFA, TH, AFU, CF, SSA, NASA, Dacula. Actually, that might have been preferable for fall now that I look at the number of weekends we have to spend traveling. LOL Didn't realize "Dracula" made RPL at u14. Wow, whose left in Athena A?
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Post by sidelinemama on Jul 30, 2015 8:09:48 GMT -5
I'm not a part of any of this, but my U14 daughter is going into 9th grade and will play HS Soccer in the Spring. It's an issue that we aren't sure how we are going to handle. I agree that they didn't really think the adding RPL at U13 through.
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Post by SoccerMom on Jul 30, 2015 8:09:57 GMT -5
Haha...im making sense to me in my head!! lol lemme see if i can explain me better. If things were like in the past and we wouldnt have played rpl last spring as U13's. the rising 14's would be playing Athena/Classic this fall and then rpl in the spring. when those kids go to u15 they only need one season of rpl. What screwed everything up is having U13 rpl, they didnt realize that those kids at u14 would need 2 seasons because they didnt need it in the past. I figured that's what you meant, but then why have it in the Fall at all? If they can't manage two seasons, then have it in the Spring. Of course, this whole discussion is just us trying to speculate on what a bunch of RIII people are thinking, so I should just go back to work and not worry about it. RPL and HS in the spring would be crazy wouldnt it? You would have to train with your club and HS and I think a lot of people would just opt out of 1. But yea...no sense in trying to figure out what they were thinking, it definitely wasnt based on any logic....and yes back to work!
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Post by SoccerMom on Jul 30, 2015 8:11:42 GMT -5
It's 7 teams in U14 so I guess we could play a home & home (12 game) schedule. UFA, TH, AFU, CF, SSA, NASA, Dacula. Actually, that might have been preferable for fall now that I look at the number of weekends we have to spend traveling. LOL Didn't realize "Dracula" made RPL at u14. Wow, whose left in Athena A? AL didnt take their 2 spots that were given to them on the 2nd division of RPL, so I guess they were given to GA instead and thats how NASA and Dacula got it
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Post by SoccerMom on Jul 30, 2015 8:15:59 GMT -5
I'm not a part of any of this, but my U14 daughter is going into 9th grade and will play HS Soccer in the Spring. It's an issue that we aren't sure how we are going to handle. I agree that they didn't really think the adding RPL at U13 through. We only have 1 player with this issue in our team and thats because she skipped a grade...not sure what they plan on doing
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Post by stevieg on Jul 30, 2015 8:29:49 GMT -5
I'm not a part of any of this, but my U14 daughter is going into 9th grade and will play HS Soccer in the Spring. It's an issue that we aren't sure how we are going to handle. I agree that they didn't really think the adding RPL at U13 through. We only have 1 player with this issue in our team and thats because she skipped a grade...not sure what they plan on doing I know who it is and I'm pretty sure they will have her play both
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Post by SoccerMom on Jul 30, 2015 8:31:03 GMT -5
We only have 1 player with this issue in our team and thats because she skipped a grade...not sure what they plan on doing I know who it is and I'm pretty sure they will have her play both I'm pretty sure too...just haven't asked
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 30, 2015 8:33:04 GMT -5
Stupid question from a stupid person (that would be myself) --- back to last year, why didn't RPL start last fall for the u14 age group instead of the spring?
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Post by stevieg on Jul 30, 2015 8:38:08 GMT -5
Stupid question from a stupid person (that would be myself) --- back to last year, why didn't RPL start last fall for the u14 age group instead of the spring? Not a stupid question. The qualifying for RPL was held in fall U14 until last year. So, the top teams in Athena A fall U14 would qualify and play in Spring. From then on, it would be based on state cup results in the fall U15 and so on. U15 and above wouldn't have this double season issue because everyone plays in HS in the spring. Last year they moved it up to U13 so top finishers in the Fall U13 Athena A played Spring RPL. Now we have a fall U14 league and apparently no provision for a Spring U14 league any more.
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Post by intensesoccerdad on Jul 30, 2015 8:59:09 GMT -5
It's 7 teams in U14 so I guess we could play a home & home (12 game) schedule. UFA, TH, AFU, CF, SSA, NASA, Dacula. Actually, that might have been preferable for fall now that I look at the number of weekends we have to spend traveling. LOL all rpl teams are on the same boat and they will have to work with each other and yes no crazy traveling except for tournaments I would hope that the winner of Athena A would be able to play in this division as well. They should be given a chance to prove that they can earn an RPL spot.
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Post by SoccerMom on Jul 30, 2015 9:04:46 GMT -5
all rpl teams are on the same boat and they will have to work with each other and yes no crazy traveling except for tournaments I would hope that the winner of Athena A would be able to play in this division as well. They should be given a chance to prove that they can earn an RPL spot. whoever wins Athena A wins an RPL spot the next year ...
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Post by intensesoccerdad on Jul 30, 2015 9:15:28 GMT -5
Is it the winner of Fall or Spring Athena A that gets the RPL spot? Also, is this a new rule or a general precedent.
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