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Post by soccermonster on Aug 7, 2018 13:40:50 GMT -5
I heard that GSA and UFA scheduled quite a few friendlies with the girls' teams this weekend. Can anyone care to share how things went? How did the teams look and were there any real surprises?
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 7, 2018 13:53:22 GMT -5
Glad two clubs are on good terms before the season, unlike some others and the season hasn't even started yet. ☹
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Post by soccermonster on Aug 7, 2018 14:15:02 GMT -5
Glad two clubs are on good terms before the season, unlike some others and the season hasn't even started yet. ☹ HAHA - Coach, that's crazy talk! All of the clubs get along just fine....it's those pesky parents that start all of the trouble .
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 7, 2018 14:21:25 GMT -5
Glad two clubs are on good terms before the season, unlike some others and the season hasn't even started yet. ☹ HAHA - Coach, that's crazy talk! All of the clubs get along just fine....it's those pesky parents that start all of the trouble . It's not crazy talk, two Alliance members are boycotting each other tournaments. Dig around if you want to know.
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Post by soccergirlz on Aug 7, 2018 14:35:00 GMT -5
Heard via second hand info that GSA won all games. probably most shocking is that GSA 04 ECNL beat UFA 04 DA 5 or 6 - 0 . Like I said this was second hand and not directly from someone at either club.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 7, 2018 14:36:16 GMT -5
At u15 and above I’m in favor of all local preseason tourneys going bye bye - rather see a few friendlies.
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Post by soccermonster on Aug 7, 2018 14:37:04 GMT -5
HAHA - Coach, that's crazy talk! All of the clubs get along just fine....it's those pesky parents that start all of the trouble . It's not crazy talk, two Alliance members are boycotting each other tournaments. Dig around if you want to know. I believe you! I was being facetious - Why can't we all just get along? My guess - CF is somehow in the mix.
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Post by futbolpadre on Aug 7, 2018 16:43:48 GMT -5
Yep - definitely looks like some boycotting going on during these pre-season tournaments. CF is hosting the Nike Select Cup and there are zero teams from SSA or NTH attending.
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Post by daddyo on Aug 7, 2018 16:54:18 GMT -5
only a couple from UFA also
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Post by fanatic21 on Aug 7, 2018 17:24:54 GMT -5
SSA is hosting a tourney this weekend. I assume their teams are required to play in it.
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Post by surgesoccer on Aug 7, 2018 22:54:24 GMT -5
At our age group UFA has 2 teams and NASA is playing as well in the Nike Cup. Typically we would do SSA but this year decided to go with Nike because the competition seemed better with many out of state teams.
We've also decided to only do 1 August tournament (have always done 2) and to schedule several friendly scrimmages instead. It saves parents some dollars and you can pick who you play verses having to wait until you see who you play in a tournament. Easy to ensure that you play good competition vs a 50-50 shot in a tournament.
For Spring I think we may go towards playing more scrimmages and maybe not even play a tournament.
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Post by surgesoccer on Aug 7, 2018 23:14:01 GMT -5
Not sure about other ages or divisions. Not sure what the disagreements alluded to above between some of the top 5 clubs, but its in their best interest to get along.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 8, 2018 5:55:47 GMT -5
At our age group UFA has 2 teams and NASA is playing as well in the Nike Cup. Typically we would do SSA but this year decided to go with Nike because the competition seemed better with many out of state teams. We've also decided to only do 1 August tournament (have always done 2) and to schedule several friendly scrimmages instead. It saves parents some dollars and you can pick who you play verses having to wait until you see who you play in a tournament. Easy to ensure that you play good competition vs a 50-50 shot in a tournament. For Spring I think we may go towards playing more scrimmages and maybe not even play a tournament. There are no NTH girls teams at the Concorde Tournament Well I am not sure what the disagreement is about but I think you and the schedules have made it clear that it seems to be between Concorde and NTH. Maybe it is the Milton opening or that NTH outed Concorde's lack of a GDA program or something else...the kids are the losers in this fight though. Both tournaments have always been top notch and to withhold each other's teams from the tournament weakens the overall level of the competition. Since the NTH girls tournament team list isn't out yet I don't know if CF is also withholding their teams from that tournament but the kids lose out the most. Also NTH did not tell their allied LSA teams not to go so there will be Tophat uniforms on kids on the girls side. It may not be obvious to parents that aren't on this forum. As for tournaments as a whole our club is doing fewer preseason tournaments per team than years past as well. We will be having a few friendlies this fall and several more in the spring.
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 8, 2018 8:11:47 GMT -5
Yep - definitely looks like some boycotting going on during these pre-season tournaments. CF is hosting the Nike Select Cup and there are zero teams from SSA or NTH attending. A number of Concorde younger teams are playing in the SSA tournament.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Aug 8, 2018 11:57:09 GMT -5
Would be strange if concorde and ssa were boycotting each other...considering they created an alliance that has SSA using some of CF's ECNL spots.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Aug 8, 2018 12:32:06 GMT -5
Would be strange if concorde and ssa were boycotting each other...considering they created an alliance that has SSA using some of CF's ECNL spots. I don't think Concorde and SSA are boycotting each other. Their tournaments are on the same weekend so I am sure both clubs are for the most part attending their own tournament. There are some friendlies scheduled between the two clubs in August.
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Post by putmeincoach on Aug 8, 2018 14:11:53 GMT -5
You are correct, it was 5-0.. sure doesnt make the DA look good. Sad part is these teams are less than 40 miles apart and will rarely if ever play. Meanwhile UFA gets to go to Boca for a "world class" game. The whole ECNL, DA, NL system is a joke and GSA gets to go to Broward County to beat the hell out some new ECNL club while driving past dozens of clubs and teams who could give them a much better match. Heard via second hand info that GSA won all games. probably most shocking is that GSA 04 ECNL beat UFA 04 DA 5 or 6 - 0 . Like I said this was second hand and not directly from someone at either club.
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Post by rifle on Aug 8, 2018 19:47:05 GMT -5
You are correct, it was 5-0.. sure doesnt make the DA look good. Sad part is these teams are less than 40 miles apart and will rarely if ever play. Meanwhile UFA gets to go to Boca for a "world class" game. The whole ECNL, DA, NL system is a joke and GSA gets to go to Broward County to beat the hell out some new ECNL club while driving past dozens of clubs and teams who could give them a much better match. That’s a pretty good description of competitive youth soccer in USA, where leagues competing for dollars take priority over clubs and teams competing.
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Post by rifle on Aug 8, 2018 19:47:29 GMT -5
You are correct, it was 5-0.. sure doesnt make the DA look good. Sad part is these teams are less than 40 miles apart and will rarely if ever play. Meanwhile UFA gets to go to Boca for a "world class" game. The whole ECNL, DA, NL system is a joke and GSA gets to go to Broward County to beat the hell out some new ECNL club while driving past dozens of clubs and teams who could give them a much better match. That’s a pretty good description of competitive youth soccer in USA, where leagues competing for dollars take priority over clubs and teams competing.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 8, 2018 20:10:20 GMT -5
Heard via second hand info that GSA won all games. probably most shocking is that GSA 04 ECNL beat UFA 04 DA 5 or 6 - 0 . Like I said this was second hand and not directly from someone at either club. For real? I heard ufa 04 DA side was supposed to me legit this year. Added a few studs.
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Post by soccer1320 on Aug 9, 2018 19:57:18 GMT -5
UFA DA 05/06 girls beat GSA 05 girls 3-0.
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Post by SoccerMom on Aug 11, 2018 22:49:53 GMT -5
GSA did not win all the games. There was a LOT of UFA girls missing due to college camps and kids still out of town.
The 02/03 only had like 7 players and the rest were guests from either non da 02 and even some 04s.
The 01/00 was also missing a lot of players. This game was going on at same time as 02/03 game and players were being subbed from one team to the other due to the shortage.
Ufa 01/00 lost Ufa 02/03 tie Ufa 04 lost Ufa 05 won
These were by no means real games and it has no indication of how the season will go.
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Post by newposter on Aug 12, 2018 22:23:56 GMT -5
Who is to say GSA didn't have girls at ID camps or missing? That's an excuse that doesn't fly. Just accept what happened, learn from it, adjust and look forward to the next game.
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Post by SoccerMom on Aug 12, 2018 22:43:40 GMT -5
Who is to say GSA didn't have girls at ID camps or missing? That's an excuse that doesn't fly. Just accept what happened, learn from it, adjust and look forward to the next game. And if they did even more reason for you to realize these games meant nothing. No excuses, just meaningless scrimmage. I think you need to accept that.
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Post by 04gparent on Aug 12, 2018 22:44:02 GMT -5
Who is to say GSA didn't have girls at ID camps or missing? That's an excuse that doesn't fly. Just accept what happened, learn from it, adjust and look forward to the next game. And this is part of the problem with USA soccer. Somehow a "friendly" becomes some type of indication of how the season will go or the relative strenths of the teams. We all need to come down... I am not a UFA parent or GSA parent. Kids cant play local competition because of crap like this. (Also because of the crap USA soccer has allowed between DA and ECNL)...
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Post by aliensource on Aug 13, 2018 9:38:20 GMT -5
It was terribly interesting to hear about the CF ECNL A & B teams reaping what the sew. The recruiter mentality of CF is manifesting itself into the worst possible scenario for the ECNL A/B team thing. Not only did key DA girls leave but the ones that were anointed without REAL tryouts onto the A team don't seem to be able to pick up where the DA talent left off... yet. Maybe they will receive actual coaching on how to play as a team instead leaning on two or three studs. Also as far as participation goes NASA/TH never goes all in on the pre-season tourney from CF nor does CF go all in on the NASA/TH Friendship cup. Individual coaches may show up but on the whole not so much.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 13, 2018 10:50:08 GMT -5
Talking about scrimmages, UFA 04 Boys DA will be scrimmaging an 04 team from Trinidad & Tobago this up coming weekend. The UFA team will also be scrimmaging the UFA U17 SCCL team also. Should be good to see how the 2 year age difference and the 1st division vs 3rd division plays out.
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Post by surgesoccer on Aug 13, 2018 22:52:59 GMT -5
Slightly younger but UFA 06 DA will be scrimmaging the UFA 05 Champions league team later this month.
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Post by takingitallin on Aug 15, 2018 15:00:14 GMT -5
SSA is hosting a tourney this weekend. I assume their teams are required to play in it. Your assumption is correct. SSA hosts this pre season tournament every year and teams are required to play in it. There is no "bad blood" (at least from a parents' perspective) between CF and SSA. No need to read into the tournament participation.
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Post by takingitallin on Aug 15, 2018 15:02:48 GMT -5
It was terribly interesting to hear about the CF ECNL A & B teams reaping what the sew. The recruiter mentality of CF is manifesting itself into the worst possible scenario for the ECNL A/B team thing. Not only did key DA girls leave but the ones that were anointed without REAL tryouts onto the A team don't seem to be able to pick up where the DA talent left off... yet. Maybe they will receive actual coaching on how to play as a team instead leaning on two or three studs. Also as far as participation goes NASA/TH never goes all in on the pre-season tourney from CF nor does CF go all in on the NASA/TH Friendship cup. Individual coaches may show up but on the whole not so much. What are you referring to when you say they are reaping what they sow? Do the ECNL A/B teams play this weekend?
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