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Post by Keeper on Apr 27, 2021 15:57:15 GMT -5
Just to throw another wrench into the mix about pay to play conversation.... The skills of soccer seems to be the most difficult to master and take years to hone before one can become competent in soccer. Meanwhile, in other sports mentioned, Football and Basketball, there are several stories of players not even entering into the sport until reaching high school. When was the last time (or even 1st time) you EVER heard of a player showing up freshman year and saying I want to try soccer... and then becoming scholarship worthy. I played all these sports growing up, and I'm not trying to demean what it take to be good in any of them, but soccer is unique in that the foundation of skills needed to be successful at an elite level take many years to develop. Football, is very basic... are you coordinated, do you have average speed at least, and most important are you able to take the physical contact? Same as in basketball, sure you need some coordination and athletic prowess, but you can become a pretty proficient shooter with about 6 months of shooting drills. You don't even have to necessarily become proficient in certain aspects like dribbling if you can master other aspects of the game... or are unnaturally tall. I'm not saying there is any fault in paying to have your kids play at the elite levels... heck I'm on this website just like you (if I wasn't paying I wouldn't be). But to deny that kids from affluent areas don't get a huge advantage and tend to have HS teams lead the HS soccer rankings and perform well in state tourneys... that it is all chalked up in the "want to" of the player and parents is a bit of a stretch. Alex Morgan didnt start playing soccer in till she was 14. I would say she’s done pretty well for herself. She played youth soccer for her dad and through AYSO teams and leagues starting at like age 6. Since it’s AYSO is a competitor to USYS everyone just assumes it’s not “real” soccer.
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Post by Keeper on Apr 26, 2021 22:14:13 GMT -5
The GHSA Girls soccer playoffs are a joke. There were 7 games in 7A first round playoffs with scores of 5+ to zero. Four of them were 10-0.
This out of “fairness” nonsense to give to these bumble no where schools to the same number of playoff teams is about as logical as ice fishing in the Caribbean. Though it’s probably more out of lazy/cheapness as making a seeding committee would require effort and money.
Either way, only region champs and runner ups should get an automatic bid, everyone else is based off rankings.
Just perspective, the Boys 7A first round had three games of 5+ to zero scores too.
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Post by Keeper on Apr 24, 2021 17:22:21 GMT -5
ECNL site shows UFA beat GSA 1-0. No NASA update... NASA won 2-1. Wait NASA played? I thought they closed all their fields. Where did they play the ECNL games? And any idea how the 08s did?
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Post by Keeper on Apr 24, 2021 15:49:27 GMT -5
07 AFU and FC Alliance tied 1-1 08 AFU beat FC Alliance won 3-2
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Post by Keeper on Apr 23, 2021 13:02:08 GMT -5
So heard some what crazy thing tonight at the fields from coaches that typically don’t gossip but Tony is leaving AUFC to go back to Norcross. Something about Ufa pays more the AUFC and he’s looking to get his own MLS gig. he and FdB are on two different pages plus Tony is pissed he was not looked at for the head coaching job. Anyone heard anything??? Is this the big UFA announcement??? see you were right!! the rumor was true!!! Ha!!! I knew it!
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Post by Keeper on Apr 17, 2021 21:58:23 GMT -5
Saturday 08 Gsa 5-0 over TSC 08 CF Premier 4-0 over AFU 08 CF Platinum tied 3-3 with NASA 08 UFA 5-0 over Alabama FC 07 AFU beat CF Premier (didn’t get score) 07 CF Platinum 2-1 over NASA 07 Alabama FC 2-0 over UFA Sunday 08 CF Platinum 4-3 over AFU 07 NASA 2-0 over CF Premier 07 GSA 3-0 over Alabama FC 07 CF Platinum (was up 2-1) over AFU (didn’t stay to see it finish) Any scores from today JumpJumpKeep- you are usually much better than the ecnl app. Sorry AFU didn’t have any ECNL games today so I’ve been out of the loop.
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Apr 16, 2021 14:30:08 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Apr 16, 2021 14:30:08 GMT -5
"What are they doing with their boys teams?" Hence why I assumed it was going to be a move towards the other league. here is the info directly from the Roswell meeting agenda: ( I have to say that ECRL blew it by not including Roswell. Roswell admittedly wanted to go the ECRL route but were denied admission). roswellcityga.iqm2.com/Citizens/Detail_LegiFile.aspx?Frame=&MeetingID=2763&MediaPosition=&ID=6884&CssClass=Due to a newly formed league, Elite Clubs Regional League (ECRL), that will begin competition starting in fall 2021, RSC formed a committee of board members, City staff, and competitive coaches to evaluate the competition level for the girls blue teams who play in the highest level of SCCL. With the addition of ECRL, the top clubs in Georgia will move teams, who competed in the highest division of SCCL, into the ECRL. In its inaugural year, the only teams allowed in the ECRL are those clubs who previously held positions in the Elite Club National League, ECNL. In our experience during the fall 2020 season, which included the teams being moved to ECRL, our girls blue teams won all or nearly all games in the highest level of SCCL competition. Even though our girls blue teams had great success against the teams allowed into the ECRL, we are denied participation in the inaugural year this fall 2021 season. After realization of teams being withdrawn from the SCCL, the committee determined that the competition level in the fall 2021 season for the top division of SCCL would not be appropriate for our girls blue teams. As we were not allowed in the ECRL, the committee was assigned the task to find a league suitable for our girls blue teams. The committee researched various leagues making phone calls, researching online, and speaking to competing club coaches and board members. After reviewing all the options, the committee recommended to the full RSC board to affiliate with the Development Players League (DPL). The DPL is excited to invite our teams into their league. DPL not only provides the proper level of competition for the girls Blue competitive teams, it continues to allow our girl’s blue teams to remain affiliated with RSC and provide an opportunity for Roswell residents currently registered with our competitive program to play soccer. The committee’s findings concluded that the SCCL would continue to be the appropriate level of play for the remaining competitive girl’s teams (red and white teams) as well as all levels for the boy’s competitive teams for the fall 2021 season. It is important to note the committee recognizes the boy’s top division of SCCL may be experiencing a similar shift as the girls division for the fall 2022 season and RSC will continue to monitor the evolving landscape of youth competitive soccer in our region. Like I have said many times Campbell at GSA has vetoed any and all new Atlanta additions to ecnl/ercl. Santos, ambush, rush and Tophat all looked to go ECRL but we’re denied because gsa can’t afford to lose anymore players. Old fashioned politics…
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Post by Keeper on Apr 15, 2021 16:31:59 GMT -5
FIFA Rankings must be like SincSports rankings. Purely for entertainment only purposes.
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Post by Keeper on Apr 12, 2021 22:15:00 GMT -5
Canceled due to scheduling conflict? Yeah that’s rare and only if say our club has a team that needs to play a weeknight game. I’ve heard a couple times about this from the Franklin Gateway Complex in Marietta as those fields are all shared and no soccer club has exclusive rights to them.
Sounds like you’re a small club that has to share a complex with a club that has first rights to the field.
What complex is it you’re team is sharing?
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Post by Keeper on Apr 11, 2021 21:07:07 GMT -5
06B First game SC borrowed players from other SC teams Second game SC borrowed players from our GA team So essentially we played the same core 06B SC team twice but with a few different players each game. 😔 I hear ya. The 08 SC team borrowed a GK and 5 field players for our game, and then we sent our other GK and five other players in the second half. Both teams played with one sub and it was a 4-4 tie so at least it was competitive but kind of annoying to pay for this.
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Post by Keeper on Apr 11, 2021 14:42:28 GMT -5
SC didn’t even bring a full team, so this is more of an intrasquad game with a sprinkling of SC players What age group was that?
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Post by Keeper on Apr 10, 2021 20:19:34 GMT -5
I'd be really curious to know if these clubs applied to ECNL/ECRL and/or GAL/DPL. I think we all assume that each of them have applied to one or both and were denied. Under that assumption, I am disappointed to hear that these pathways to higher level leagues are closed off. There are some really talented players and good coaches at these clubs. Maybe they will get bought by the bigger clubs at some point - and for all we know, maybe that's the whole idea behind excluding them. Ask the Norcross Fury Girls how being bought out by UFA worked out for them ... Heard the craziest thing that they may be looking to exit that buyout, or at least another branch is.
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Post by Keeper on Apr 10, 2021 13:07:03 GMT -5
Not sure about All In or LSA, but I’m pretty sure Ambush, Santos, Rush, & Impact are all in the process of going MLSNext/DPL route.
Though I would not be surprised if the Impact/FC Alliance merger talks come back as that would allow them to get ECNL without having to get territory approval from Gsa (who are vetoing all additions to encl/ercl).
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Post by Keeper on Apr 2, 2021 15:44:25 GMT -5
Only a one time immediate transfer? Student athletes should be able to come and go when ever they want as long as their scholarships are not guaranteed and their coaches are allowed to come and go when they want.
This is a start but more needs to be done to completely rehaul/abolish the ncaa.
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Post by Keeper on Apr 1, 2021 20:41:29 GMT -5
Well that’s one way to fill one of those two ECRL spots.
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Post by Keeper on Apr 1, 2021 17:59:31 GMT -5
FL boys only pulled out (again). Girls are on. Told they were bringing up one team.
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Post by Keeper on Apr 1, 2021 13:08:05 GMT -5
Well it seems like most of the teams from FL are pulling out so no games in Tifton, at least for our age group. So that just leaves local scrimmages against SC teams. We were charged for the game played in SC a few months ago, which I can understand with travel expenses. But $35/40 per player to play a single local scrimmage? What gives?!? What age group? And yeah we did this year of odp because we paid for last year but with all these extras it’s so much more for less.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 29, 2021 20:33:06 GMT -5
Thanks for the suggestions. We're trying to do our research, though I am not sure exactly what we should be asking. I would say our son is between rec and academy. His ball skills are pretty good, but he was born at the end of December, and he's also small for his age, so he gets knocked down a lot. He also gets outrun by the bigger kids, and he finds that discouraging. My husband and I had been thinking that he should switch to rec, but he's been doing a lot of training sessions since November and has improved dramatically (more than he'd improved in the prior couple years). I wish we'd realized the importance of private training sessions earlier because I think smaller, younger players have to be more skilled than their peers just to feel average. So now our son wants to try a different club (hopefully one more focused on development and one that uses positive coaching techniques), and because he's been working so hard, we're inclined to let him. So far, Rush Union looks like what we're looking for, but we haven't found any other clubs that look right. We would welcome suggestions. The Buckhead fields are closer to us (with AIS being closest to our house), but we're willing to drive an extra 20 minutes (the amount of extra time required to get to and from Rush Union, according to Google maps) a day for a positive environment for our son. Thanks so much! You’re on the right track if you’re leaning towards Rush Union / old Chiefs FC. They’re on the smaller side but all about development over academy wins. They still follow the Chiefs way which is all inclusive, no cuts in Academy / take everyone who wants to play, and pool style with a lot of roster movement. So for a smaller Fall/Winter Bday it’s a good spot as it’s about teaching and not just winning. That can be tough for some parents which is why they’re small and struggle to keep kids out of Concorde though. Good friend of mine coaches there and he talks about how the staff feels like a family. I’ve been trying to drag him out of there for years but he’s too invested in the relationships he’s built with the players and families if that helps give you a little more insight into them.
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Mar 29, 2021 13:14:11 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Mar 29, 2021 13:14:11 GMT -5
That will never happen. CF- 2, UFA, afu, gsa, cesa, sc United, surf, Tenn SC would most likely be the SE division. 10, maybe 11 teams tops. Busa, Fc alliance, Chattanooga red wolves aren’t big enough to keep ecnl, ECRL and SCCL. They’d keep SCCL as playing third teams would be more competitive and the travel to Atlanta is a lot easier then traveling to SC. IMO it is possible for Santos and Ambush to get in. Looking at FL and SC, they gave the ECNL clubs plus a few with ECNL playing in the Regional leagues. So there’s a precedent there. Oh it would be possible on paper. But not with the soccer politics in Atlanta. Like I stated in another post, Campbell at GSA will veto anymore additions to Ecnl/ECRL in the metro area. Other wise Rush and Ambush would have been in for sure, though sounds like Santos has decided to go the MLSNext/GAL route.
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Mar 29, 2021 11:54:08 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Mar 29, 2021 11:54:08 GMT -5
Why do you say that? Most regions are putting the smaller clubs in ECRL. Look at Florida for example. Besides it makes total sense. The point of ECRL is to develop player pool but also to analyze smaller clubs to see if they are worthy of promotion. And it is supposed to be more regional/less travel. It would make sense that Georgia is GA/AL/SC and includes SCCL teams that are worthy. I think (and hope) that they allow Roswell and Ambush into ECRL. That would make a minimum of 8 Metro Atlanta teams (2 Concorde, UFA, AFU, GSA, NASA, Ambush and Roswell) and maybe more depending on how many clubs get 2 teams. That would help to reduce travel and expand the number of teams. Throw in 3 from Tennessee, 3 from South Carolina, and 1 from Alabama and that is a 15 team league. Please each team once per season and now you have 14 games each season. That will never happen. CF- 2, UFA, afu, gsa, cesa, sc United, surf, Tenn SC would most likely be the SE division. 10, maybe 11 teams tops. Busa, Fc alliance, Chattanooga red wolves aren’t big enough to keep ecnl, ECRL and SCCL. They’d keep SCCL as playing third teams would be more competitive and the travel to Atlanta is a lot easier then traveling to SC.
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Mar 29, 2021 11:43:18 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Mar 29, 2021 11:43:18 GMT -5
I don’t think that ECRL=SCCL. The only clubs to announce ECRL are clubs with ECNL teams. We are witnessing the splitting of soccer into 2 camps—MLS Next and GA v ECNL. The real question is where are the medium size clubs going. I dont think ECRL will be anything other than the ECNL clubs. No way they let Roswell/ other medium sized clubs in. Will be interesting to see what happens to them. Most smaller/medium clubs aren’t going Ecnl/ECRL because Campbell at GSA is vetoing any ECNL additions from Atlanta (including Tophat). Gsa is scared that anymore ECNL clubs will threaten their dwindling numbers. They don’t want to be AFU, they want to keep AFU where they are, on the bottom.
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Mar 25, 2021 21:42:48 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Mar 25, 2021 21:42:48 GMT -5
With new coaches, better retention and better recruitment. Plus someone’s got to be on the bottom.
Plus how many players would rather be on the last place ECNL team then the mid place ECRL/SCCL/DPL whatever league team.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 22, 2021 21:41:39 GMT -5
Agree that SSA Coweta was nothing more than a picking ground to entice a few players to come up to join their "elite" league. With the exception of a few boys teams SSA had put zero effort into building the program up in this area. It's sad that this has happened as the potential to have a great program is definitely there.The $$$ has gone up to the main SSA locations with no local investment . Do not mention the issues as well as perception with paid "parent" coaches that were allowed to hang on season after season when they should have been removed. Coweta is a growing area - they can totally support a great program if some club/group had the wherewithal to make it happen. It's a shame that so many Coweta players have to venture out of county to find a halfway decent soccer program. If one would look at the rosters at AFC I would bet at least half of the players reside in Coweta on the majority of those teams.. Even a good handful at MOBA live in Coweta as well... AFC and MOBA could merge their resources and create a viable option for Fayette kids but it seems as there is so much competition between the 2 clubs across the street from one another ... A Fresh club new to Coweta that believes in teaching kids how to play soccer and develop as players should come in and grow Coweta. SSA may still have a few boys teams that call Coweta home but I am pretty sure the girls teams have all disintegrated...Too many years of poor management should mean it's time for SSA to put all there efforts where their heart is and let Coweta find a club that can make it happen... Where is the SSA Coweta fields? And who runs them? (county? City? Private?) If they’re under utilized then maybe the owners would allow another group to come in and share. That’s pretty much what happened at Sav United as Tormenta/old Storm had a foot in the day at Jennifer Ross Complex and now with higher numbers are able to negotiate more access. Hmm….what about this UFA Coweta? 😂😂
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Post by Keeper on Mar 21, 2021 15:51:18 GMT -5
Saturday 08 Gsa 5-0 over TSC 08 CF Premier 4-0 over AFU 08 CF Platinum tied 3-3 with NASA 08 UFA 5-0 over Alabama FC 07 AFU beat CF Premier (didn’t get score) 07 CF Platinum 2-1 over NASA 07 Alabama FC 2-0 over UFA
Sunday 08 CF Platinum 4-3 over AFU 07 NASA 2-0 over CF Premier 07 GSA 3-0 over Alabama FC 07 CF Platinum (was up 2-1) over AFU (didn’t stay to see it finish)
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Post by Keeper on Mar 20, 2021 16:44:12 GMT -5
Yes sadly SSA Savannah United is a poor club. Talent has left that club the last couple of years in waves. Especially with Tormenta becoming better and better. We haven’t had to deal with it, but friends down there made the mistake of starting there in Academy.
I haven’t heard a player not being released in years (GSA and Concorde) but reach out to GASoccer if they are making it difficult. Once you pay up, they can’t keep you anymore.
Also, depending on which club you’re moving to you may not need Sav United to release your kid. Pretty sure they are not USClub so any USClub can sign you right away. Might be the same if you move to a SC Youth Soccer from GA Soccer.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 18, 2021 22:36:34 GMT -5
Sorry - I know others do it But if you need an ID camp to identify your own players already at your club, you have done a complete crap job! There I said it. It’s not meant to ID current club players, but by charging they can bring players in from outside the club before the “official tryouts”. All about the legal tampering.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 18, 2021 15:33:15 GMT -5
I've always wondered if the Metro/SE teams would actually get an ECRL league separate from the SCCL. Knowing the clubs and DOCs that created the SCCL, they are not going to want to give up the gravy train and loss of control to the US Club folks by merging the two into one... Looks like GSA is announcing ECRL www.gsasoccer.com/programs/camps/id-camps/ecnl-id-campECNL & ECNL Regional League ID Clinic Join top GSA staff, including current and expected ECNL and ECNL Regional League coaches for the coming seasonal year, for this high level, high energy ECNL and ECNL Regional League ID session. This camp is open to any individuals born in 2009 thru 2003 (they do not have to be a member of GSA to participate). This camp is intended as a first step towards identification for the Elite Clubs National League (ECNL) and Elite Clubs National League - Regional League (ECNL-RL) programs. Makes sense as Drew typically gossips the most out of SCCL clubs.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 17, 2021 16:55:23 GMT -5
I've always wondered if the Metro/SE teams would actually get an ECRL league separate from the SCCL. Knowing the clubs and DOCs that created the SCCL, they are not going to want to give up the gravy train and loss of control to the US Club folks by merging the two into one... Would it be a merge? Or would USClub come in and just say we are starting this and are excepting applications from all interested clubs. I mean Club to Club becomes less competitive but it’s still club ran like academy. So like Premier 1 was the first year.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 17, 2021 12:29:02 GMT -5
Assuming SC United is moving into ECNL Southeast conference, could very easily play in Charleston late on Saturday and Columbia on Sunday and vice versa. Just a 2 hour drive between Charleston and Columbia. What about CESA? It’s only 2 hours from CESA to Gsa and AFU too. While it’s almost 3 hours from Tenn SC / Nashville to BUSA which is a current travel partner.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 17, 2021 10:14:34 GMT -5
Charleston is a an issue for Tenn (especially Nashville) and Alabama teams -- that is a long way to travel. Their a problem for the midatlantic as well -- maybe midatlantic splits into 2 divisions. Yeah if you’re Tenn SC and Alabama FC you’re being very nice to ECNL right now. Wonder if there’s any chance TSC gets moved into a new conference with Louisville, Cincy and Indianapolis clubs.
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