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Post by Keeper on Mar 16, 2020 10:56:27 GMT -5
Ehhh funded is tricky. Parks are bought and built by taxpayer dollars but depending on the city/county they’re not always maintained with taxpayer dollars. The local clubs to get exclusive access have to pay the yearly maintenance costs. What about schools, though? Or parks where no soccer club plays regularly?
I should absolutely be able to go out to my local public school and use their field when they're not using it.. but they're almost entirely locked up.
Seriously? What sport thinks they run everything? The other football. Most Hs football coaches hate sharing their grass fields so if they aren’t on them then no one should be. Just another reason to move HS Soccer to the fall and build soccer specific HS fields/stadiums. I get your logic it just doesn’t work down here. Resources are so tight and rare that no one wants to share.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 16, 2020 10:45:30 GMT -5
Haha stop with your crazy logic. You’d think that but in reality no, parents pay to allow their kid to participate for that club. I mean come on how parents wouldn’t pay extra just to get their kid on a top team even if not deserved. You say that like it doesn't actually happen. Nope I know that. The difference is 10% to 50%.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 16, 2020 0:24:33 GMT -5
Oh so many people think ego doesn't exist. In this scenario, I don’t think what Concorde did was right but they are trying to protect their investment. Concorde, as well as other big Clubs, believe they are equal to AUFC. I mean why wouldn’t they? They both put players into professional leagues and into top D1 soccer programs. I mean isn’t half of AUFC’s coaching staff from local clubs so what’s the difference other then the money? Now Concorde compared to a professional European club, then yeah they know they can’t compete as that’s the next level from them. Protect their investment? The parents pay. If the players are the commodity, it's the parent's investment - not the club's. Haha stop with your crazy logic. You’d think that but in reality no, parents pay to allow their kid to participate for that club. I mean come on how parents wouldn’t pay extra just to get their kid on a top team even if not deserved.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 15, 2020 21:55:25 GMT -5
Oh so many people think ego doesn't exist.
In this scenario, I don’t think what Concorde did was right but they are trying to protect their investment.
Concorde, as well as other big Clubs, believe they are equal to AUFC. I mean why wouldn’t they? They both put players into professional leagues and into top D1 soccer programs. I mean isn’t half of AUFC’s coaching staff from local clubs so what’s the difference other then the money?
Now Concorde compared to a professional European club, then yeah they know they can’t compete as that’s the next level from them.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 15, 2020 14:22:54 GMT -5
Soccer fields require a lot of money for maintenance. Add in that if anyone gets injured on them they could sue, so that’s why you have the liability issue. I’m all for open fields, especially those wasted baseball complexes wrapped in metal fences and concrete. Anyone remember when they could go to the local high school and run the track, kick the soccer ball or throw a football around? Now schools are fenced up like a prison. 👍🏻 No question they cost money for maintenance but any public park is funded by my tax dollars. If I am paying those dollars I want to play at a field. Your point about liability is true but kids are more likely to be injured playing in a game that on a field by themselves. Also more likely to get injured on a playground or dirt bike trail or skate park. All of those are left open to the public (not speaking about coronavirus related closings). Ehhh funded is tricky. Parks are bought and built by taxpayer dollars but depending on the city/county they’re not always maintained with taxpayer dollars. The local clubs to get exclusive access have to pay the yearly maintenance costs.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 15, 2020 14:18:55 GMT -5
No question they cost money for maintenance but any public park is funded by my tax dollars. If I am paying those dollars I want to play at a field. Your point about liability is true but kids are more likely to be injured playing in a game that on a field by themselves. Also more likely to get injured on a playground or dirt bike trail or skate park. All of those are left open to the public (not speaking about coronavirus related closings). "The majority of states consider public parks to be a government activity, which prevents liability for any injuries that occur on the premises. Federal, state, and local government entities protect themselves from personal injury claims through sovereign immunity. Under this immunity, the government cannot be held liable for injuries on public property. However, some states have created laws that allow people to bring a claim against the state or city for personal injuries that occur on public property such as a park." Not sure where Georgia falls on this but I'm willing to bet that no county or city run facility is liable for injuries in a park. Exactly. The clubs take responsibility of this as the primary users of the fields eliminating the govt liability.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 15, 2020 12:20:01 GMT -5
Which park? Most Dekalb parks fields are maintained by the clubs so unless they’re using them they don’t want anyone on them. As well as there’s always the liability issue as the soccer fields are not meant to be for open use. Why are soccer fields not meant for open use and a liability? This is part of what is wrong in our soccer world. Fields SHOULD be for open use (coronavirus aside). Soccer fields require a lot of money for maintenance. Add in that if anyone gets injured on them they could sue, so that’s why you have the liability issue. I’m all for open fields, especially those wasted baseball complexes wrapped in metal fences and concrete. Anyone remember when they could go to the local high school and run the track, kick the soccer ball or throw a football around? Now schools are fenced up like a prison. 👍🏻
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Post by Keeper on Mar 15, 2020 12:13:21 GMT -5
Which park? Most Dekalb parks fields are maintained by the clubs so unless they’re using them they don’t want anyone on them. As well as there’s always the liability issue as the soccer fields are not meant to be for open use. 11v11 field on the backside of Henderson Park. It was a (Tucker?) park official, not someone from a club, and the folks playing tennis were NOT asked to leave as far as I could tell from the two times the employee came by... first time telling our group to scram, the second time to lock the gate Yeah that Livsey Field is “property” of tysa. No permit, no access. It’s not like the tennis courts that are open to the public.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 15, 2020 0:36:36 GMT -5
Got booted from a DeKalb park (soccer field) today and it was locked up as we left Which park? Most Dekalb parks fields are maintained by the clubs so unless they’re using them they don’t want anyone on them. As well as there’s always the liability issue as the soccer fields are not meant to be for open use.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 13, 2020 16:51:01 GMT -5
Just like ncaa the spring HS season is done. No helping it as most kids will be out of schools until at least mid May.
At this point I don’t expect kids to return to schools until the Fall. We are in this for the long haul.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 12, 2020 22:50:05 GMT -5
Effective immediately, NASA Tophat, Inc. has suspended all operations as a precaution against the spread of Coronavirus (COVID-19). This decision was made in order to limit potential exposure to the Coronavirus and to best protect the health and well-being of all individuals participating or attending NTH games and events. NTH has been closely monitoring the public health developments across the country and communicating with other local clubs, US Soccer, and US Club as part of our response. We will continue to monitor and communicate as the situation evolves. To clarify this means no games or training effective immediately until further notice. NTH Admin [To clarify this means no games or training effective immediately until further notice.] Without a doubt, my favorite part of the message. I wonder if NTH parents are breathing into a paper bag thinking of their young all-stars not getting in their mandated Two-A-Days practice 🤪🤪🤪 OMG!! Seriously this is the quote of the year!!!!! F’ing hilarious and completely dead on!! “Won’t somebody please think of the children” 😂😂😂😂
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Post by Keeper on Mar 12, 2020 14:17:53 GMT -5
SC United out of Columbia did the same thing too.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 11, 2020 22:37:14 GMT -5
I’d like to see that memo! Haha Makes since and I’d expect the Big 6 to follow suit with the SCCL leagues pulling all teams out of Ga Soccer in the fall. Considering club size, how can such ultimatums -one shoe fit all- be good for every team and player? Personal agendas / vendettas over players' best interests? Not sure what you’re asking here. I mean State Cup traditionally was for the top 16 teams in each age group. It wasn’t meant to fit every team and player, just the best.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 10, 2020 14:32:49 GMT -5
SSA top brass has sent a decree out to all coaches and teams that they are not to participate in any GA Soccer run tournaments including State Cup, so you won't see in SSA teams at State Cup. I’d like to see that memo! Haha Makes since and I’d expect the Big 6 to follow suit with the SCCL leagues pulling all teams out of Ga Soccer in the fall.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 10, 2020 14:30:21 GMT -5
Sadly like one person said for a small club outside the bigger alliances getting a week to week schedule is normal. Especially with U9 girls as that age group has almost disappeared in small clubs.
About the amount of games per season there’s two camps now. There’s the camp that says kids should play 2-3 per weekend and closer to 20 is better. And then there’s the group that says 1 per weekend with the occasional Sat/Sun is preferred with 10-12 total. It’s like politics, both completely split and unwilling to compromise. This battle is going forward at all ages too.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 9, 2020 11:25:40 GMT -5
NTH Boys will participate in the SCCL Summer League but not the girls. Tryouts for Tophat girls were scheduled for March 1, but on Feb 28 they sent and email, “Our girls program, Tophat, will not be participating in the SCCL Summer League for the summer of 2020.“ Kind of surprising. No explanation given. Hearing they may be dropping the whole Girls summer program.... Barely enough players to form 7v7 teams let alone 11v11 with subs
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Post by Keeper on Mar 7, 2020 0:44:10 GMT -5
Even with the turf we have missed a bunch due to the combo if rain and cold. County hasn't wanted people out when it is 40 and raining. Only 40° and closing?? Which county? That’s like normal temps. It’s how like most of our seasons in Washington were and it’s all turf up there.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 7, 2020 0:42:38 GMT -5
With it being spring, im only running two teams but I’ve only missed one night of practice so far thanks to the club getting turf backups. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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Post by Keeper on Mar 3, 2020 20:35:52 GMT -5
Gwinnett County does NOT offer middle school soccer as an athletic team in the schools. There is a local tournament and a dozen schools who participate with their school CLUB. But it is not GCPS sport. The purpose of the soccer club is to be used as a pilot program to get soccer as a sanctioned sport in Gwinnett County schools. Again yes it does. Each school has to offer it. Obviously your kids school doesn’t offer it and you’re butt hurt about it. There’s an entire tournament each yeah devoted to the schools that field Middle School teams.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 3, 2020 15:23:39 GMT -5
I agree with slickdaddy96, they screwed up the name (two-fold). One, the whole organization of leagues is called "SCCL" AND the top club-based bracket is called "SCCL". FG mentioned the "Champions" bracket naming...but no one wants to say "SCCL Champions". Also, the Champions/Premier is revered from the English league naming system, so its counter-intuitive to me. Wouldn't hurt to rebrand to "Southeastern Clubs Leagues" (SCL) with SCLC and SCLP (Champions and Premier)...but I agree with ultimatedad...what exactly are they champions of? Maybe the "C" could stand for "clubs". I dunno, it needs to be less confusing though. What’s gonna be crazy is that the Inter/Impact/Storm/Lanier Alliance League will be called CCL too! So SCCL and I figure it’s Premier leagues (1-3). Probably to go with English Premier League and then UEFA Champions League.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 3, 2020 13:16:01 GMT -5
Gwinnett County does not have middle school soccer. So I wonder if it’s more likely that AFU and GSA have U15 programs. Versus other clubs who draw players from other county or private schools. Wrong. Gwinnett County has a lot of middle school soccer. There’s roughly 20 middle schools participating in the Gwinnett league. It all based on each individual school though.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 3, 2020 13:13:25 GMT -5
With Roswell and AFU now in the Champions’ bracket that makes 10 teams . If they keep the format of playing each other twice , that will make 18 games. Do you think they will do that or create two brackets and you play the other 4 teams on your side twice while playing the opposite side once each ? That would give 13 games vs 18. In U15 we played 14 last year. Thoughts ? Would they charge parents more if they did 18 games to cover refs / fields for the extra games ? Just for giggles I created a West and East bracket: West 1. BUSA 2. VHSC 3. SSA 4. TH 5. CF East 1. CESA 2. Roswell 3. AFU 4. UFA 5. GSA Thoughts ? Where’d you get confirmation that Santos joined? Last we heard they were still debating CCL with Inter/Impact Alliance group.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 2, 2020 22:20:58 GMT -5
From what we are hearing about AFU’s SCCL team goals is to pull a Concorde and just make new teams with new players. Essentially they want to post these new SCCL teams and draw players from other clubs. Which should be easy as they have the ECNL teams above them still as a draw, and there’s still unhappiness at gsa, Ufa forsyth & Norcross, and still no SCCL at neighbors like Ambush, All-In, Lanier, & Steamers to draw those top players away.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 1, 2020 19:33:53 GMT -5
Most of the season? Try two years for most soccer players. I’d say maybe back by mid year next season but no where near back to where he was yesterday till the 2022 season.
If you have questions feel free to check out Jordan Morris’s comeback from his Acl injury in Feb 2018.
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Post by Keeper on Feb 29, 2020 12:18:57 GMT -5
SCCL Crossover weekend is not in Greenville. It will be held in Columbia, SC For which age groups?
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Post by Keeper on Feb 28, 2020 16:25:51 GMT -5
The driving force behind everything is the creation of DA 10 plus years ago marginalizing thousands of players and coaches and hundreds of clubs. USSF effectively said, “we know best how to develop players”. Effectively implementing a system that is geographically restricting, destroys diversity and creativity, and places a glass ceiling on thousands of players. Any club or player implementing change is good and creates more of a free market/ competitive system. No, didn’t ECNL come first? I’d say that was the beginning of the end when someone out side of USYS was allowed to branch off instead of fixing the problem.
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Post by Keeper on Feb 27, 2020 23:01:21 GMT -5
It’s a non merging, alliance of clubs to combat the SCCL debacle that is crippling Ga Soccer and making mediocre soccer.
Afc Lightning, Alpharetta Ambush, Chiefs, Rush & Santos have all been given the hard used car sales to join SCCL 1-3 while these clubs are pushing back and staying in Ga Soccer to form their own mini league “Premier League”. It’s pretty much millennial soccer all over where everyone gets a champions ribbon just for participating and everyone suffers as we have to watch the NTs not make a World Cup or World Cup Final because our “top” talent never gets challenged.
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Post by Keeper on Feb 24, 2020 13:35:31 GMT -5
It really doesn't make any sense other than someone at the top of one of the orgs getting a big payout. They'd end up with less teams in league spots than they have now. Maybe SSA made GB that massive buyout 🤷🏻♂️ I mean if you know GB you know he only cares about the money and not the soccer. So maybe SSA is buying the Concorde name and brand, GB’s companies will then get to keep all the field and admin contracts plus he’ll get a massive buyout to go retire. It’ll be like when nasa bought Tophat, a lower level group buying their way to fame and status.
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Post by Keeper on Feb 21, 2020 16:36:27 GMT -5
Do rec games at the youth level (< 12 years of age) require certified referees? I still think there should be some work done with scholarship players and refereeing? Whether paid or unpaid, its a great way to help out your club. No except if the U12s are playing RIAS through Ga Soccer. Like Academy games (again not the Pre-GPL league) those are considered “In House” and run by each Club and thus the Club sets the rules. That’s why you have random Academy U10 games that still do 30 minute halves, or that don’t allow free substitution on any stoppage.
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Post by Keeper on Feb 20, 2020 23:43:54 GMT -5
At this point I don’t think anyone is canceling.
Icebreakers - all turf expect a few games at Tramore, but have back up plan to move those games if needed.
Tournament of Champions - all turf
Steamers FC - some turf, but have already said games will be played.
Concorde - all grass but moved games on Saturday to start at like 12:00pm
RYSA - all grass but typically have good fields (dealt with rain last weekend & didn’t cancel)
Red Star - Grass fields, guessing they’ll be on and can take some damage as those fields don’t get used that much anymore. And without State Cup have no reason to stay spotless.
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