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Post by hotspur1 on May 2, 2018 18:56:46 GMT -5
Lol seems like this is a UFA forum but thank for the great clarification on UFA. Anyone from the other 5 post on here? SSA here. (Though my daughter has played small club...twice due to following a coach) So tell us 411, which club does your son play at? Be transparent. |
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Post by cleansheet on May 2, 2018 19:05:54 GMT -5
Lol seems like this is a UFA forum but thank for the great clarification on UFA. Anyone from the other 5 post on here? SSA here. (Though my daughter has played small club...twice due to following a coach) So tell us 411, which club does your son play at? Be transparent. UFA and CF. There are many of us. Lol |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 19:33:39 GMT -5
Yes 411, we are transparent. My kids are AFU....have friends at UFA, GSA and LSA................what say you?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 19:36:43 GMT -5
BUT, me thinks 411 MAY be a higher up at a certain club that is out near Buford, who aligned with 2-3 other clubs in a merger, but I may be wrong.
Or is it Roswell/Impact/Ambush?
Whoever he is, he has a vendetta against AFU, I DO know that.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 2, 2018 19:56:50 GMT -5
BUT, me thinks 411 MAY be a higher up at a certain club that is out near Buford, who aligned with 2-3 other clubs in a merger, but I may be wrong. Or is it Roswell/Impact/Ambush? Whoever he is, he has a vendetta against AFU, I DO know that. I think I opened up a can of worms here. Oops! I had a bad experience with my kid at a club once and though it would take a lot to convince me to return even though we still have a lot of friends there I would definitely NOT have a vendetta against them. |
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Post by zizou on May 2, 2018 20:00:02 GMT -5
Lol seems like this is a UFA forum but thank for the great clarification on UFA. Anyone from the other 5 post on here? Well soccerfan30 is a Tophat coach from what I gather. LOL. It does seem like a lot of UFA people post here. Obviously, Spectator is not a big 5 person since she has stated many times that she isn't. 411, didn't you say you were AFU? Maybe I am confusing you with someone else. When I checked the thread about at what clubs people had kids playing UFA had the most votes. Maybe UFA is just the most vocal group?!? I am curious to hear a GSA person say what their plan is...and SSA too. Seems like Concorde could do the same as UFA and put some SCCL teams at the north location. Might stop the losses from that location... Also not a Big 5 person |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 2, 2018 20:06:31 GMT -5
I doubt 411 is an AFU guy......he hates AFU (yes, I'll stand up and at least admit that my family is AFU, before that GSA....I Like both clubs). It would almost appear that 411 may have a past connection to AFU??? Just sayin'  ? 411 , want to chime in and clarify? I did. Sorry was offline but yes not an AFU man. I have my son at Rush. I guess I am the only small club person on this forum. * I acknowledge Rush from a national perspective is not a small club but locally we are considered at best medium size. |
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Post by ultimatedad on May 2, 2018 20:19:39 GMT -5
AFU has positioned themselves wisely by keeping ECNL and SRPL. The question is weather their coaches are motivated enough to recruit girls being relegated to the new club league. The big clubs will delay an announcement to confuse current members. Time is running out quickly.
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 2, 2018 20:25:48 GMT -5
AFU has positioned themselves wisely by keeping ECNL and SRPL. The question is weather their coaches are motivated enough to recruit girls being relegated to the new club league. The big clubs will delay an announcement to confuse current members. Time is running out quickly. I still question that AFU gets to keep RPL but I have been wrong before. |
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Post by greenmonkey on May 2, 2018 20:33:15 GMT -5
AFU has positioned themselves wisely by keeping ECNL and SRPL. The question is weather their coaches are motivated enough to recruit girls being relegated to the new club league. The big clubs will delay an announcement to confuse current members. Time is running out quickly. A serious question. Why do the AFU coaches need to be motivated to "recruit". Who do they recruit? How do they recruit? Mostly we are talking girls age 12-15 right? Are the girls really driving themselves, paying for their own soccer, making the final decisions? Unless you are brand new to Georgia Soccer (and bless your heart if you are) by the time your girl is age 12-15 and you live driving distance to any of these big six clubs you have figured out the 3 that have DA (for now) and the 4 that have ECNL (for now) Did you mean recruit the next level team SRPL etc? And at that level why do coaches need to recruit players? There are certainly plenty of clubs in this town to support every single 12-15 year old girl who wants to play soccer at whatever level of play their skill, talent, interest, and desire. How about instead of recruiting (which frankly happens to us as and by parents than it does way more than coaches) what if clubs were just transparent with basics like who is coaching, what tournaments they expect to play in, etc. And coaches were honest about what skills the individual player has, needs to develop, and made parents aware of the plan? Again my honest questions no sarcasm or attitude. GM |
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Post by ultimatedad on May 2, 2018 20:44:21 GMT -5
The Champions League will be a complete disaster with disparate teams being thrown at each other for the sake of convenience for the coaches and clubs. If you are playing for an SRPL level team that is being forced into this league look for a top team of smaller club playing SRPL. If you make it you will be playing for a better team and you will get much more attention as a top player for a first team, as opposed to a player on the second or third team that tends to get ignored. I have loved the experience of my daughter playing for a smaller club. By the way we consistently beat second and third teams from the big clubs and tie ECNL teams. SRPL teams are much harder to beat. I know that people from the big five are trying to sugarcoat this new league situation but I would highly recommend looking elsewhere if your team is going down in the level of competition by joining this new league.
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Post by atlsoccer on May 2, 2018 20:45:56 GMT -5
AFU has positioned themselves wisely by keeping ECNL and SRPL. The question is weather their coaches are motivated enough to recruit girls being relegated to the new club league. The big clubs will delay an announcement to confuse current members. Time is running out quickly. I still question that AFU gets to keep RPL but I have been wrong before. Several people have said that they will be able to keep both, but no one has been able to explain why they will be able to keep both and no one else will. For that to be possible there would have to be some small loophole in the new Georgia Soccer bylaws, in which case I'd imagine some other clubs could claim as well. |
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Post by SoccerMom on May 2, 2018 20:46:02 GMT -5
AFU has positioned themselves wisely by keeping ECNL and SRPL. The question is weather their coaches are motivated enough to recruit girls being relegated to the new club league. The big clubs will delay an announcement to confuse current members. Time is running out quickly. Based on the new rules, AFU can't play RPL/NL. Unless you're suggesting they're breaking the rules for them and them only |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 2, 2018 21:01:45 GMT -5
AFU has positioned themselves wisely by keeping ECNL and SRPL. The question is weather their coaches are motivated enough to recruit girls being relegated to the new club league. The big clubs will delay an announcement to confuse current members. Time is running out quickly. Based on the new rules, AFU can't play RPL/NL. Unless you're suggesting they're breaking the rules for them and them only Hey I agree with someone from UFA  Seriously I thend to agree I don’t think AFU can keep RPL. |
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Post by ultimatedad on May 2, 2018 21:08:43 GMT -5
The reason that the smaller clubs need to recruit is because the dynamics have suddenly been reversed where the better league and teams belong to the smaller clubs. Coaches from smaller clubs in the past have had to focus on holding on to their players, not picking off top players from the big clubs. With the new "Champions league" there will be a lot of aspiring players that do not want to play at this level especially if they want to get some kind of exposure to college level playing. I have heard that this league will be a mixture of Athena B and SRPL. Sounds like a cluster F to me. Serious and especially the athletic new soccer players that can still improve with good coaching will go for SRPL teams. Big clubs will probably not tell about new league until after tryouts. Just saying. I dare you to sensor this.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 2, 2018 21:22:33 GMT -5
The reason that the smaller clubs need to recruit is because the dynamics have suddenly been reversed where the better league and teams belong to the smaller clubs. Coaches from smaller clubs in the past have had to focus on holding on to their players, not picking off top players from the big clubs. With the new "Champions league" there will be a lot of aspiring players that do not want to play at this level especially if they want to get some kind of exposure to college level playing. I have heard that this league will be a mixture of Athena B and SRPL. Sounds like a cluster F to me. Serious and especially the athletic new soccer players that can still improve with good coaching will go for SRPL teams. Big clubs will probably not tell about new league until after tryouts. Just saying. I dare you to sensor this. Coaches are already talking to their teams about the new league. This is not a big secret or a conspiracy. The bigger clubs still have DA & ECNL, and kids/parents will want to be there to have opportunities to DP or eventually make it into those teams. Your kid plays at a smaller club and she plays SRPL right? with the 5 dropping out who does that leave you playing with from GA? You will either play lower competition locally or will have to travel a lot more than before if less GA teams are in. Also NC & SC have their own versions of SCCL they just created, so you will be traveling a lot more to play lower competition as well. |
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Post by soccerdaddy on May 2, 2018 21:27:06 GMT -5
The reason that the smaller clubs need to recruit is because the dynamics have suddenly been reversed where the better league and teams belong to the smaller clubs. Coaches from smaller clubs in the past have had to focus on holding on to their players, not picking off top players from the big clubs. With the new "Champions league" there will be a lot of aspiring players that do not want to play at this level especially if they want to get some kind of exposure to college level playing. I have heard that this league will be a mixture of Athena B and SRPL. Sounds like a cluster F to me. Serious and especially the athletic new soccer players that can still improve with good coaching will go for SRPL teams. Big clubs will probably not tell about new league until after tryouts. Just saying. I dare you to sensor this. You are obviously talking about girls and doesn’t apply to the boys side. Second, as you said it’s a mixture of Athena B and SRPL currently in the Big 5. So, can they compete for spots on top team for smaller clubs? Let me get this straight, I read this as the SCCL players will want to make the smaller clubs that are in contention with NL because they know they are not on the top team at the Big 5. That makes sense to me too, go for the top team...“where the better league and teams belong to the smaller clubs” . My opinion is because they didn’t make the top team at the Big 5. Just saying I agree with you. |
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Post by surgesoccer on May 2, 2018 21:34:30 GMT -5
There appears to be a lot of anger at some of the smaller clubs. Not sure why and not sure its healthy, but vent on.
"Big clubs will probably not tell about new league until after tryouts." - Actually having a meeting tomorrow to discuss, so for at least at one club that's not accurate
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Post by soccermaxx72 on May 2, 2018 21:34:55 GMT -5
The reason that the smaller clubs need to recruit is because the dynamics have suddenly been reversed where the better league and teams belong to the smaller clubs. Coaches from smaller clubs in the past have had to focus on holding on to their players, not picking off top players from the big clubs. With the new "Champions league" there will be a lot of aspiring players that do not want to play at this level especially if they want to get some kind of exposure to college level playing. I have heard that this league will be a mixture of Athena B and SRPL. Sounds like a cluster F to me. Serious and especially the athletic new soccer players that can still improve with good coaching will go for SRPL teams. Big clubs will probably not tell about new league until after tryouts. Just saying. I dare you to sensor this. Coaches are already talking to their teams about the new league. This is not a big secret or a conspiracy. The bigger clubs still have DA & ECNL, and kids/parents will want to be there to have opportunities to DP or eventually make it into those teams. Your kid plays at a smaller club and she plays SRPL right? with the 5 dropping out who does that leave you playing with from GA? You will either play lower competition locally or will have to travel a lot more than before if less GA teams are in. Also NC & SC have their own versions of SCCL they just created, so you will be traveling a lot more to play lower competition as well. I disagree as I do not believe most parents are being informed at the Big 5 as of tonight. Also there is no way anyone on here can honestly believe champions league is going to be a better league than the new national league. Yes maybe some delusional parents will hope their girl on the 3rd or 4th team at the big 5 club will eventually be recognized and moved up to ecnl. But again, this champions league was formed totally for convenience not for competition. |
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Post by soccerfam on May 2, 2018 21:41:19 GMT -5
Big 5 here- our team was informed last night of the changes.
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Post by soccerdaddy on May 2, 2018 21:43:19 GMT -5
Coaches are already talking to their teams about the new league. This is not a big secret or a conspiracy. The bigger clubs still have DA & ECNL, and kids/parents will want to be there to have opportunities to DP or eventually make it into those teams. Your kid plays at a smaller club and she plays SRPL right? with the 5 dropping out who does that leave you playing with from GA? You will either play lower competition locally or will have to travel a lot more than before if less GA teams are in. Also NC & SC have their own versions of SCCL they just created, so you will be traveling a lot more to play lower competition as well. I disagree as I do not believe most parents are being informed at the Big 5 as of tonight. Also there is no way anyone on here can honestly believe champions league is going to be a better league than the new national league. Yes maybe some delusional parents will hope their girl on the 3rd or 4th team at the big 5 club will eventually be recognized and moved up to ecnl. But again, this champions league was formed totally for convenience not for competition. I disagree with you, unless GA Soccer is doing the Bio-banding then many will mature at different times as a teen. Changes to the physical body can occur in less than a year combined with hard work can be a drastic change in a player’s ability within an age group. This will transfer to the pitch and will see many move up and down in the U12-U16 ages. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 2, 2018 21:44:39 GMT -5
Folks let's take a page out of the wine lovers and let this thing breathe. Keep in mind at 2 of the Big 5 there are discussions being held about potentially giving up ECNL/DA. At another they cancelled practice for all teams to inform their coaches and staff. For yet another, they don't have DA/ECNL but have trickled down the info to specific "leader" parents and parents of their best players. Finally at club in Gwinnett, they are letting the rumor mill handle things. Remember these types of communications from the clubs happen in the first 1/3 of the month of May when they know the landscape. Right now most of the Big 5 are trying to figure out the best and most efficient way to disseminate. There are a bevvy of expert soccer parents on this forum and even we at time disagree on who, what, when, where and how. Imagine other parents less clued in than us. I promise the info is coming.
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Post by ultimatedad on May 2, 2018 21:45:06 GMT -5
Soccer mom with the big five moving out of SRPL means the worst teams will be leaving the lrague and I can only assume that the teams replacing them will be better. I have more concern for the North Carolins teams but none of them were in my daughters league.
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Post by ultimatedad on May 2, 2018 21:46:27 GMT -5
Again it appears that this new league was created to avoid competition.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 2, 2018 21:48:02 GMT -5
Coaches are already talking to their teams about the new league. This is not a big secret or a conspiracy. The bigger clubs still have DA & ECNL, and kids/parents will want to be there to have opportunities to DP or eventually make it into those teams. Your kid plays at a smaller club and she plays SRPL right? with the 5 dropping out who does that leave you playing with from GA? You will either play lower competition locally or will have to travel a lot more than before if less GA teams are in. Also NC & SC have their own versions of SCCL they just created, so you will be traveling a lot more to play lower competition as well. I disagree as I do not believe most parents are being informed at the Big 5 as of tonight. Also there is no way anyone on here can honestly believe champions league is going to be a better league than the new national league. Yes maybe some delusional parents will hope their girl on the 3rd or 4th team at the big 5 club will eventually be recognized and moved up to ecnl. But again, this champions league was formed totally for convenience not for competition. Lots of teams have been informed at our club by the coaches, that way they can field questions directly. |
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Post by SoccerMom on May 2, 2018 21:50:39 GMT -5
Soccer mom with the big five moving out of SRPL means the worst teams will be leaving the lrague and I can only assume that the teams replacing them will be better. I have more concern for the North Carolins teams but none of them were in my daughters league. If the new teams coming in are better than the ones leaving...then why weren't they there to begin with? 🤔 |
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Post by surgesoccer on May 2, 2018 21:52:11 GMT -5
I can't say what all clubs are doing but UFA, at our location, is having meeting with parents. The worst mistake any of these clubs could make would be to not have everything clearly laid out by the end of next week.
As far as the competition lots of things are changing at the same time so you really can't say what will or will not be competitive. But you can say"
1. Classic/Athena will be less competitive without the Big 5. Even if in every age group, boys and girls, the big 5 were average (#5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 place teams), you're now going to have the bottom 5 teams as your mid league teams and the top 5 teams from the lower division move up.
2. Classic/Athena will be less competitive because more teams will be pulled to fill the spots in the 17 regions. Those are coming out of current RPL and Classic 1, so weaker teams move up to a higher level based on numbers, not earning it.
3. The new National league will be less competitive: Your going from 4 regions to 17 regions. Those teams to fill out the 17 regions have to come from somewhere and they will be filled with teams that would be no where close to RPL this year.
You don't make a league more competitive by increasing the number of teams.
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Post by spectator on May 2, 2018 21:52:59 GMT -5
BUT, me thinks 411 MAY be a higher up at a certain club that is out near Buford, who aligned with 2-3 other clubs in a merger, but I may be wrong. Or is it Roswell/Impact/Ambush? Whoever he is, he has a vendetta against AFU, I DO know that. I think I opened up a can of worms here. Oops! I had a bad experience with my kid at a club once and though it would take a lot to convince me to return even though we still have a lot of friends there I would definitely NOT have a vendetta against them. Not a can of worms but I will ask everyone here that we not stoop to bullying people into revealing anything more than what they are comfortable with revealing online. Not accusing anyone but please take a step back and realize this topic is something everyone is passionate about and not everyone is some kind of spy from whatever side you aren't on at the moment. This forum is transparent in the fact that it is regulated enough that you have to put some skin in the game and register. Lately it seems anyone new is subject to scrutiny - why? Because the cesspool of the other forum is now officially dead? I have revealed who I am and where we play to people here privately and no, I am not 100% transparent publicly because that's how I am in my real life. I don't give money over the phone, I don't give strangers rides and even though I've been on this forum for years, no, I don't reveal every single detail of my life. You all know I'm at a smaller club, my kid is about to go play in college, she had a serious injury a few years ago and I am ever grateful for those people here who, even though they didn't 'know' me, messaged me with well wishes and inquires as to how she was doing. I have tried to reciprocate in kind when people post about an injury or issue. My hope as we (me and my kid) age out of this craziness, is that you all will do the same. Reveal what you are comfortable with and reach out to help if you can. At the end of the day, we are all parents who just love our kids and want them to be happy. As for 'vendettas' all of us have had good/bad/indifferent experiences over the many years we've been on this crazy journey. My kid has played at both small and big clubs. She's had good and bad coaches - and guess what, the size of the club had zero to do with how exceptional or horrific the coach was. I've said over and over that level and club are secondary to a good coach. If you have one of those, hold fast and tight and stay where you are because in the long run, that coach will benefit your player so much more than whatever the "L' the level is. I do honestly sincerely feel for everyone left in this crazy stuff. I am still not convinced anyone in power at a club or league has the best interests of the players in mind when they force these changes on us. But yeah, even coming from mean old me, please try to stay focused on the players and the bonds you have with like people (aka parents of players). This forum has been a great source of support and information for me. Come this summer, unless someone creates a sub board for college parents, I'm outta here - and yes, I will miss you - even those I disagreed with - because disagreement isn't negative - it's an opportunity to learn something new. And because we did have some skin in the game by having that recognizable user name or avatar, we did get to 'know' each other as much as we'd allow it. And you all taught me, schooled me, and made me see different sides of every situation. Breathe - who really cares who is where - we're all here. Relish it! |
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Post by ultimatedad on May 2, 2018 22:03:27 GMT -5
I think the talent drain will be out of Athena A and B
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Post by ultimatedad on May 2, 2018 22:07:25 GMT -5
Soccer Mom you very well know that the big 5 clubs in SRPL got in from there DA or ECNL clubs performance. That is why they get beat up in SRPL. Sorry to call you out.
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